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dont you usually say gender identity is fixed from birth and people dont actually change it?
with that logic it would mean you are already non-binary without being properly aware of it?
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bigots can have dating preferences ;D
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since they are socially constructed, does that mean "woman" means something else depending on what society we are looking at?
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ok so you are saying the word is a linguistic issue but what it describes is still a biological reality?
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so the word doesnt describe anything really?
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classic logiko. he is the jordan peterson of this thread
with that logic it would mean you are already non-binary without being properly aware of it?
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bigots can have dating preferences ;D
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since they are socially constructed, does that mean "woman" means something else depending on what society we are looking at?
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ok so you are saying the word is a linguistic issue but what it describes is still a biological reality?
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so the word doesnt describe anything really?
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classic logiko. he is the jordan peterson of this thread
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No. I usually say that gender identity is non controlable, you can't really decide to be a man or a woman (unless you are genderfluid maybe, but even then, I'm not sure it's a real control, more of a mood change).. But it can still evolve. It's a social construct after all, it's fluid.
I think you could say that we are all born non binary. Gender construction might come after (even tho gender disphoria would tend to contradict that), it's a bit complex, we still don't know everything yet. That's why there are gender studies and why biologist are interest with the case of trans people.
I think you could say that we are all born non binary. Gender construction might come after (even tho gender disphoria would tend to contradict that), it's a bit complex, we still don't know everything yet. That's why there are gender studies and why biologist are interest with the case of trans people.
yeah but that was one of the reasons you listed why you are not a woman, so it kind of follows that you are saying that this only applies to women. at best you just didnt phrase yourself properly, at worst you are doing some wiggling around your point again because you have been caught with your pants down.
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turning frogs gay?
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i would have thought you are aware of this term, it was huge on the internet a couple years ago and was controversial.
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turning frogs gay?
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i would have thought you are aware of this term, it was huge on the internet a couple years ago and was controversial.
It could in a very far future yeah, but not in our world I believe. The world is global now, interconnected. Patriarchy is present pretty much everywhere.
For the moment, not really yeah. Being a man means different things whether you are asking to a conservative or a leftist man. The most objective thing you can say is that being a man is equivalent to a social status of domination over women in this patriarcal society.
lmao
My leftist politicization is very recent. Less than 5 years. And I mostly followed the french side of politics. I know about people not wanting to date trans people but never this specific term, in french it would sound ridiculous
Remind the room when is the last time that you change your old political vision about something and went the opposite way please ?
For the moment, not really yeah. Being a man means different things whether you are asking to a conservative or a leftist man. The most objective thing you can say is that being a man is equivalent to a social status of domination over women in this patriarcal society.
lmao
My leftist politicization is very recent. Less than 5 years. And I mostly followed the french side of politics. I know about people not wanting to date trans people but never this specific term, in french it would sound ridiculous
Remind the room when is the last time that you change your old political vision about something and went the opposite way please ?
It could in a very far future yeah, but not in our world I believe. The world is global now, interconnected. Patriarchy is present pretty much everywhere.
For the moment, not really yeah. Being a man means different things whether you are asking to a conservative or a leftist man. The most objective thing you can say is that being a man is equivalent to a social status of domination over women in this patriarcal society.
lmao
My leftist politicization is very recent. Less than 5 years. And I mostly followed the french side of politics. I know about people not wanting to date trans people but never this specific term, in french it would sound ridiculous
Remind the room when is the last time that you change your old political vision about something and went the opposite way please ?
For the moment, not really yeah. Being a man means different things whether you are asking to a conservative or a leftist man. The most objective thing you can say is that being a man is equivalent to a social status of domination over women in this patriarcal society.
lmao
My leftist politicization is very recent. Less than 5 years. And I mostly followed the french side of politics. I know about people not wanting to date trans people but never this specific term, in french it would sound ridiculous
Remind the room when is the last time that you change your old political vision about something and went the opposite way please ?
what views of mine dont align with reality exactly?
and thats why the majority of people like to use the definition of the term where it actually means something
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but gender roles are vastly different among different cultures, what it means to be a woman socially isnt the same globally
and thats why the majority of people like to use the definition of the term where it actually means something
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but gender roles are vastly different among different cultures, what it means to be a woman socially isnt the same globally
"Super Straight" is genuinely hilarious 
There is definitely some ageism in it too. Bald people at 17 (for instance) are considered to be very old.
And when they decide to shave it off because they only have 3 hair on their scalp.... they can get wrongfully harassed for being far-right wing.
I wouldn't say it's patriarchal because they're less of a man but because they won't deal with their emotions and when they share it they can be downplayed.
There is definitely some ageism in it too. Bald people at 17 (for instance) are considered to be very old.
And when they decide to shave it off because they only have 3 hair on their scalp.... they can get wrongfully harassed for being far-right wing.
I wouldn't say it's patriarchal because they're less of a man but because they won't deal with their emotions and when they share it they can be downplayed.
That's what I thought. You never evolved and questionned your own political vision, values or set of beliefs.
Why does it rub you so much the wrong way to read scientific concepts ?
Indeed!
Well.. there is an esthetic...
I was more talking about the projection of what it is do be a man understand a very patriarcal lens (mostly non bald). But yeah, there is also this side when Baldness is downplayed. We should indeed promote the acceptation of bald people more. There is a field of awereness that could be reached here.
Yeah, but the domination of patriarchy is constant, as such, being a woman is a social status before everything else.
Why does it rub you so much the wrong way to read scientific concepts ?
Indeed!
Well.. there is an esthetic...
I was more talking about the projection of what it is do be a man understand a very patriarcal lens (mostly non bald). But yeah, there is also this side when Baldness is downplayed. We should indeed promote the acceptation of bald people more. There is a field of awereness that could be reached here.
Yeah, but the domination of patriarchy is constant, as such, being a woman is a social status before everything else.
Hell, you’re already thoroughly awful as things stand, maybe a new mindset would make you marginally less pathetic?? It’s a stretch, I know, but it’s probably worth a try 
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-guns-trump-justice-department/86602524007/
*lights up a bong at the shooting range*
COME AND *cough* TAKE IT FROM MY *cough* COLD *cough* *more coughing* DEAD HANDS!!!
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-guns-trump-justice-department/86602524007/
*lights up a bong at the shooting range*
COME AND *cough* TAKE IT FROM MY *cough* COLD *cough* *more coughing* DEAD HANDS!!!
Hell, you’re already thoroughly awful as things stand, maybe a new mindset would make you marginally less pathetic?? It’s a stretch, I know, but it’s probably worth a try
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-guns-trump-justice-department/86602524007/
*lights up a bong at the shooting range*
COME AND *cough* TAKE IT FROM MY *cough* COLD *cough* *more coughing* DEAD HANDS!!!
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-guns-trump-justice-department/86602524007/
*lights up a bong at the shooting range*
COME AND *cough* TAKE IT FROM MY *cough* COLD *cough* *more coughing* DEAD HANDS!!!