You said that ONLY women have to be worried about that
Where ?

I said that "I" was not afraid of what a man could do to me alone
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I'm not afraid of what a man could do to me alone

Yeah but this makes women a subset of people with female characteristics ANYWAY, do you understand basic set theory?
Women are indeed just one of the gender categories which can have female sexual characteristics. Some men can have boobs, vagina etc. It's not completely binary.
 
What? I thought you were thinking to yourself.
I bet you'd vote for her
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jette_Nietzard
Commentary on fireworks injuries and ideals of masculinity

On December 31, 2024, Nietzard posted a tweet on platform X that sparked criticism from both the media and within her own party. She wrote: “Men who lose their hands to fireworks can at least no longer beat women.” In connection with various posts on her Instagram account regarding dating and the general behavior of men, she was accused on social media in early January 2025 of generalizing, radical behavior and even misandry. [15] The next day, she apologized for her statement and deleted her post, but at the same time emphasized the need to discuss domestic violence rather than “hurt male egos.”[16] She said she had deliberately wanted to polarize opinion.[17]
 
Where ?

I said that "I" was not afraid of what a man could do to me alone
You are not afraid in contraposition with a woman, meaning that only a woman can be a victim of that.
Otherwise your entire phrase doesn't have sense. Because you are a MAN because you are not [..] afraid of what a man could to to you alone.
Dishonest as always.
Women are indeed just one of the gender categories which can have female sexual characteristics. Some men can have boobs, vagina etc. It's not completely binary.
Twisting your own words, little buddy? You didn't say CAN. You said they are oppressed because of female characteristics. No CAN. they NEED to to have female sexual characteristics. Otherwise how can they be oppressed because of that.
Thank you, finally something from you.
 

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Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
@Reborn Is discrimination against baldies sexism ? Or is because of patriarchy ? @Logiko

Or is it both :myman:



To be fair, I can get scared of a stranger if I'm alone with him. Especially if he looks stronger and a bit weird.



I don't date the bourgeoisie :endthis:
There is no discrimination against baldies.

What we have is jealousy and envy towards baldies due to then being more masculine men :BigW:
 
Nah.. She is wrong. They can also use their legs.

You are not afraid in contraposition with a woman, meaning that only a woman can be a victim of that.
Otherwise your entire phrase doesn't have sense. Because you are a MAN because you are not [..] afraid of what a man could to to you alone.
Dishonest as always.
Stop twisting words :shocking:

You said they are oppressed because of female characteristics.
Where ? lmao
It's literally wrong. The domination of men over women is mostly gender based.
 
Gay conversion therapies are bad but the opposite is good, according to Logiko
And what would be the opposite ?
Therapy to force you to be gay ?

:optimistic:


My mistake in talking to you, you got me again.
You are dishonest, intellectually challenged and frankly a waste of my time.
Nah, you just have an habit of twisting words to convince people that I say stuff I literally don't. (you can check, I verified). It was the same with Carrot. You took me challenging your ideas as a lack of coherency and as always, you can't take the heat when I prove that you are trying to twist my words to render my point incoherent and you finish with ableism as always. Simple insecurity really.
 
Won't join
And what would be the opposite ?
Therapy to force you to be gay ?

:optimistic:



Nah, you just have an habit of twisting words to convince people that I say stuff I literally don't. (you can check, I verified). It was the same with Carrot. You took me challenging your ideas as a lack of coherency and as always, you can't take the heat when I prove that you are trying to twist my words to render my point incoherent and you finish with ableism as always. Simple insecurity really.
 
That is not really what straight mean, unless I don't understand this slang specifically. But in that case, yup, this would be transphobic. You don't know what could happen or who you can feel in love with. It's like saying "I only date white women" which is racist..
"super straight" is a term designated for people who only date cisgendered people.

so me having a preference in regards who i take as partner makes me transphobic and/or racist?

interesting.
 
I just said the opposite. I have ""feminine"" traits and I believe that if you gave me 100+ years i would bridge the gap between gender and probably become non binary (in fact it could very well happen soon). This is my definition of a man, it doesn't have to be the only one, there are thousands of ways to be a man or a woman or both or neither. Like I said, it's a social construct, it's not graved in stone.
dont you usually say gender identity is fixed from birth and people dont actually change it?

with that logic it would mean you are already non-binary without being properly aware of it?
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People can't have dating preferences now??😂
bigots can have dating preferences ;D
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It's funny how you try to twist it. But hey. I can't make you understand something you don't want to understand. Gender are social constructions, felt and given. For women, it's mostly a construction that is imprinted on people with female sexual characteristic, a form of imposition, which is then self justified by later oppression, but it's also more. Again, I can't give you a straight answer. It's complex.
since they are socially constructed, does that mean "woman" means something else depending on what society we are looking at?
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The words we use to describe things are a linguistic issue
ok so you are saying the word is a linguistic issue but what it describes is still a biological reality?
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but what it feels like or what it is to be a man is up to every men
so the word doesnt describe anything really?
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Not surprised of your '''''response'''''🤡
classic logiko. he is the jordan peterson of this thread
 
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dont you usually say gender identity is fixed from birth and people dont actually change it?

with that logic it would mean you are already non-binary without being properly aware of it?
No. I usually say that gender identity is non controlable, you can't really decide to be a man or a woman (unless you are genderfluid maybe, but even then, I'm not sure it's a real control, more of a mood change).. But it can still evolve. It's a social construct after all, it's fluid.


with that logic it would mean you are already non-binary without being properly aware of it?
I think you could say that we are all born non binary. Gender construction might come after (even tho gender disphoria would tend to contradict that), it's a bit complex, we still don't know everything yet. That's why there are gender studies and why biologist are interest with the case of trans people.
 
Where ?

I said that "I" was not afraid of what a man could do to me alone
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yeah but that was one of the reasons you listed why you are not a woman, so it kind of follows that you are saying that this only applies to women. at best you just didnt phrase yourself properly, at worst you are doing some wiggling around your point again because you have been caught with your pants down.
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Gay conversion therapies are bad but the opposite is good, according to Logiko
turning frogs gay? :Luffy_Pass:
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Seems like there is a lot to unpack here.
i would have thought you are aware of this term, it was huge on the internet a couple years ago and was controversial.
 
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