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They can’t ever, EVER furnish a single shred of proof that trans people harm kids, but I can point to hundreds of thousands of documents and articles about the countless conservative leaders who abuse minors on a regular basis…love when straight white men in power call members of marginalized communities “dangerous” when literally every piece of empirical evidence proves THEY’RE the real fucking danger :seriously:
 
https://apnews.com/article/scouting...y-boy-scouts-14a5fc1521fcd1e51103638f6f504214
They can’t ever, EVER furnish a single shred of proof that trans people harm kids, but I can point to hundreds of thousands of documents and articles about the countless conservative leaders who abuse minors on a regular basis…love when straight white men in power call members of marginalized communities “dangerous” when literally every piece of empirical evidence proves THEY’RE the real fucking danger :seriously:
Tbh I really dislike how politicized the topic of child abuse has been. Not that there aren’t terrible child abusers in places of power, but it just seem cynical how I’ve noticed a lot of folk weaponize this issue.

The right obviously does it with the trans panic and QAnon/Pizzagate shit. Similarly I’ve noticed how folk on the left have started to use the Epstein files to basically characterize every conservative as a pedophile or pedophile adjacent. And like I get it, they did defend Trump. But also, folks need to have some empathy and consider the fact that Trump lied and these people were fooled by his lies.

It just seems like the conversation completely misses the fact that this is an actual phenomenon with real victims and instead just uses the topic of child abuse or pedophilia as a rhetorical bat to bash your opponents over the head with.
 
But I do not believe I am obligated to pay for what was essentially war. This is the history of war.
The problem is that it was not war. It was colonialization, it was exploitation. A domination, a crime against humanity, not a simple clash of forces.

I understand that you don't wanna pay for your ancestor, but someone must. Reparation - especially when our countries are still perpetuationg directly or indirectly this exploitation - is an absolute necessity to create peace everywhere.

I think the ones dominating the global south are billionaires disconnected from myself and the general populace.
You are right. But the right (all the rights) wants to make them keep their power, it's against their interest. These people should be held accountable, I agree, but it's impossible if no one pushes politics for them to be. And for that, you gotta be a leftist and vote accordingly, there are no multiple solutions here.

The right side of the political spectrum does not have the interest of the lower classes in mind.


I do think large swathes of migrants slowly eroding natural cultures is a form of colonisation, yes.
A colonization is a domination through forces, exploitation, enslavement, oppression. It's a power oppressing a population and extrating their ressources. Is that what you are describing ?

I think what you describe is a natural social process every culture experience. All culture shift and change according to the mix of differences. Your culture won't disappear, it will just evolve.

People have been led to believe that they need to hold to everybit of "culture" without rationnal reason other than the white supremacist ideology of eurocentrism (even if the culture in question is horrible and it actually does not disappear). But they are being invisibilized from the new cultures that appears.

Culture transform. If something needs to be kept, then it will be kept.

My advice : Ask yourself deeply why you are afraid that your culture might disappear, who threatens you. You will see the problem.

I am certain if we denied immigrants benefits, social housing, and other incentives such as access to our free healthcare system, only the ones who want to exist and integrate with my culture would remain.
That's not what would happen. Especially when these things are not accessible to the majority of migrant without papers. When people need to survive, they don't do it because you give them X€ of social benefit if they manage to magically get their papers. They do it because they have no choice to fled or find a way either to survive financially or help their family.

Also, "Integrating" is another world for "scrap your culture". This IS a way for culture to disappear. It's a form of oppression and domination.

Strange thing : people who lives their life in peace are STILL asked to "integrate". When we look, we just see that they are not of the "right" culture. > again, white supremacy.

You have a lovely sentiment, Logiko, but I think giving them access to something they never contributed to is a kick in the face of all those who uphold and pay for the system itself, such as your average working class individual.
You do not take into account the fact that the system NEEDS marginalized to exist. Without migrants, the poor would be the ones to pay and be ask to be "integrated".

IM being ask constantly to integrate into society.
I'm neither a migrant or a black man and I still feel this sword above my head. What people refuse to do for migrant, they actually refuse to do for everyone else because migrants are not the one that will benefit from it first.

When we ask for more housing, it's also for the homeless, when we ask more social services it's also for the handicaped and yet, people will still refuse to give.

The problem has never been the migrants. They are just the scapegoat to avoid rethinking the system.

But I do not think deporting individuals back to their home is the same as gas-chambers and ethno-cleansing.
What home ?
When you leave a country at the risk of your life, there is usually no home back or no way for you to survive. The reality of departation is fascism and death, not a simple sendback. It's the absence of hope and a deresponsibilization of the society who actually created the conditions of poverty.

They need to provide something to have access
Ok. Fair. Give them access then.

Allow them a shelter, housing, food, water, security, safety, a decent life. And observe how much they will contribute in return because they definitely will.

Considering that migrant can't contribute if given the chance is another form of dehumanization. They are like you and me, they just need help urgently and then they will show you what they are made of.

A country that closes itself from immigration slowly dies.


I have seen places where I grew up become a shadow of the past, Logiko. Pretty much ghettos
Again.. Fair. Then we must allow people to strive, and they won't accept to live in chaos.
 
Tbh I really dislike how politicized the topic of child abuse has been. Not that there aren’t terrible child abusers in places of power, but it just seem cynical how I’ve noticed a lot of folk weaponize this issue.

The right obviously does it with the trans panic and QAnon/Pizzagate shit. Similarly I’ve noticed how folk on the left have started to use the Epstein files to basically characterize every conservative as a pedophile or pedophile adjacent. And like I get it, they did defend Trump. But also, folks need to have some empathy and consider the fact that Trump lied and these people were fooled by his lies.

It just seems like the conversation completely misses the fact that this is an actual phenomenon with real victims and instead just uses the topic of child abuse or pedophilia as a rhetorical bat to bash your opponents over the head with.
This type of shit has tbh made it to where the word “pedophile” or “pedophilia” has completely lost its meaning.

Is it a mental illness? An Ideology? Criminal behavior? If so, how is it defined?

If you think about it for a second, you realize that most folks have no coherent definition of this word and just use it in the same vein as “pervert”, “fornicator”, “sodomite”, etc. Where it’s less about the actually describing a phenomenon and more about using the word to express moral condemnation.

And while people who abuse children certainly deserve moral condemnation, I do worry about the ways in which this sort of emotion-heavy language can lead people into hysteria and irrational thinking.
 
Is it a mental illness? An Ideology? Criminal behavior? If so, how is it defined?
It's a domination. It's comes the intersection of the adultist domination (the needs of adults to exerces power over children) and the patriarcal exploitation (as it is a form of exploitation of the body of sexualized and feminized bodies).

The word "pedophilia" actually distracts us from the fact that it's not about a mental illness, it's about power. And in the case of Epstein it's even worse, it's about social and patriarcal recognition under the big scope of capitalist interests a rich elite.

As such, while this case must be investigated, the Epstein files are a symptom of the real problems, not the actual problem. This will happen again and again, and again. Until people start to learn.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Is it a mental illness? An Ideology? Criminal behavior? If so, how is it defined?
Aside from actual seriously medical diagnosis like Schizophrenia etc., it is whatever mentality that doesn't conform to societies standards. Those who dont meet the standards at the time are to be removed from the social hierarchy(via asylums where they were essentially tortured). Even as early as the early 1900s, wives who talked back against or disobeyed their husbands were deemed mentality ill and placed in asylums.
 
Hot take:

I don’t think pedophilia is as big of a problem as people make it out to be. By that I mean I highly doubt there’s pedo rings passing kids around. In fact I think it’s wayyy more likely that you’ll be sexually abused by someone close to you than some rich billionaire

the pedo scare is overstated
 
Aside from actual seriously medical diagnosis like Schizophrenia etc., it is whatever mentality that doesn't conform to societies standards. Those who dont meet the standards at the time are to be removed from the social hierarchy(via asylums where they were essentially tortured). Even as early as the early 1900s, wives who talked back against or disobeyed their husbands were deemed mentality ill and placed in asylums.
+1000


Hot take:

I don’t think pedophilia is as big of a problem as people make it out to be. By that I mean I highly doubt there’s pedo rings passing kids around. In fact I think it’s wayyy more likely that you’ll be sexually abused by someone close to you than some rich billionaire

the pedo scare is overstated
The problem is rather systemic. It's a symptom, a behavior shaped by the seeking of power and exploitation. This can't be dealt through individuality or the research of elite circle since it's a global social problem. It could be solve by itself if we started ti takled the bigger problems of patriarchy and adultism.
 
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The problem is rather systemic. It's a symptom, a behavior shaped by the seeking of power and exploitation. This can't be dealt through individuality or the research of elite circle since it's a global social problem. It could be solve by itself if we started ti takled the bigger problems of patriarchy and adultism.
Isn’t pedophilia an actual disease though. I don’t see how you can “fix it”
 

Apollo

The Sol King
Hot take:

I don’t think pedophilia is as big of a problem as people make it out to be. By that I mean I highly doubt there’s pedo rings passing kids around. In fact I think it’s wayyy more likely that you’ll be sexually abused by someone close to you than some rich billionaire

the pedo scare is overstated
This one is extra hot when we recently got files that show there was a trafficking operation that had many minors as victims. And imo the scare is how plenty of influential figures are implicated.

That being said, it is true that most sexual abuse of minors is done by people they know (family/teachers..etc).
 
This one is extra hot when we recently got files that show there was a trafficking operation that had many minors as victims. And imo the scare is how plenty of influential figures are implicated.

That being said, it is true that most sexual abuse of minors is done by people they know (family/teachers..etc).
The worst stuff was mostly bullshit tho(baby eating rituals and what not)

nothing incrementally big came out, and like you pointed out while many were minors most weren’t.

Thats my point, if were to say this club of billionaires had on the high end 1000 victims, that is still dwarfed the number of victims of child SA in a month
 
Isn’t pedophilia an actual disease though. I don’t see how you can “fix it”
It depends on what type

Anyone attracted to a toddler has something "off" about them, because sane Mammal Brains don't think that way

If you went to a bar and didn't bother to ask a girl if she's of age and it turns out she's 17 you are Reckless or just don't really care, neither really identify anything mental, more social
 
It depends on what type

Anyone attracted to a toddler has something "off" about them, because sane Mammal Brains don't think that way

If you went to a bar and didn't bother to ask a girl if she's of age and it turns out she's 17 you are Reckless or just don't really care, neither really identify anything mental, more social
That’s not really pedophilia tho

pedophile is the attraction towards the underage features. If you fuck a girl who looks like she’s 30 but is 17 you’re just a statutory rapist lol
 
The worst stuff was mostly bullshit tho(baby eating rituals and what not)

nothing incrementally big came out, and like you pointed out while many were minors most weren’t.

Thats my point, if were to say this club of billionaires had on the high end 1000 victims, that is still dwarfed the number of victims of child SA in a month
Got any proof it was bullshit? They eat kids.

The biggest reason sexual assault in households is the way it is, is BECAUSE the people in charge are sex criminals who normalize and justify sex crime.

Compare areas with functional leadership to our shitty countries, and guess what? The abusers actually get dealt with.

Kids wouldn't have to worry that much about STDs if these governments and religions weren't run by such slop and, teens were allowed to do safe shit with each other

Trickle Down Sexonomics.

Communities without ridiculous, centralized power in the form of religion or government generally take abuse very seriously.

It also doesn't help that our history is written by complete liars. Morons, nowadays, will tell you that the greeks were all about fucking teen boys or some shit, when, if anything, many of them were wildly homophobic, and child sexual abuse was heavily frowned upon.

It's easy to feel comfortable abusing children when you know that the religious and political authority in your country is full of abusers who will look the other way, as long as you're willing to do dirty work for them

Americans are so full of shit they'll tell you that Hillary had nothing to do with Epstein, when he helped fund her fucking foundation.

Follow the money.

Looks to me that they're going to try to dump all this stuff on trump and pretend like all the religious cults, political cults, business cults, and all the other shitheads involved had nothing to do with it.

The media has been really trying to whitewash the Clintons here.

The focus shouldn't be on trump.

The focus should be that all these wars and all of this economic debt, is the actual result of crazy ass rich cultists

My family didn't rape my baby penis, the abrahamic religions did, and made money doing it

If you want to stop family sex abuse, your number one prerogative should be getting rid of the international sex trafficking ring that's making it impossible for the courts to function on any sensible level in the first place. And the way to do that is gutting all the political and religious institutions hiding them.

Familial child users have been very enabled by trump and the people blackmailing him using his sex tapes. Exhibit A is them supporting forcing children to give birth to incestuous rape babies.

Do you think ice isn't raping people in those prisons?
 
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