Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

Korean war they stopped Americans expanding in North korea.

Ok, I didn't know about that. Do they have the logistics to reach out all the way to Iran, though? Korea is literally just around the corner for them.

 

[Uncle Van]

That is the Catholic doctrine. You omitted the part of my post that says so. I'm saying this because I have seen some "Catholics" say a couple of things in here that aren't really Catholic.

Ok?....religious people not following their own doctrine or even knowing about them has been extremely common for millenia.

 

[NAMELESS]

China saw Venezuela getting fucked, and now is watching Cuba fall apart

But one day they’ll do something surely

Bro, the Chinese said the Cubans should be more capitalistic. Cuba was doomed to go bankrupt. Marxist economics doesn't work.

 

[Roo]

Korean war they stopped Americans expanding in North korea.

I’m pretty sure they mainly got involved once North Korea was on the verge of losing

 

[NAMELESS]

Ok?....religious people not following their own doctrine or even knowing about them has been extremely common for millenia.

Yes.

 

[Roo]

Bro, the Chinese said the Cubans should be more capitalistic. Cuba was doomed to go bankrupt. Marxist economics doesn't work.

Cuba is ideologically mindfucked. When the only major “socialist” super power is telling you to be more capitalistic and you refuse there’s something wrong with you

 

[Mathias]

Korean war they stopped Americans expanding in North korea.

And Vietnam too.

But it was commie Mao, not just "China".


Iran isn't even a neighboring country to China. I don't believe that they'll do anything. Still waiting for that Taiwan invasion.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

China would rather be in the U.S good side than to risk direct conflict with them. Their policy is strictly soft power as of now

Russia literally let Assad and Armenia get destroyed. You think they’ll do anything for Iran?

Are you sure China was always in US good books you should ask the Army men who served in Vietnam and Korea they might not agree .

China might be good business partner but they have actively supplied weapons .

They will not directly interfere but they have supplied active intelligence and provided technology how do you think Iran can pinpoint their enemy location ?

 

[NAMELESS]

Not censored? i got banned for 2 months

Most you got was like a week?

I got a 2 month ban for an opinion that I voiced multiple times in the past. Other users have said similar things with no repercussion at all. The rules are whatever the mods feel like at the moment, and some of them are men-children on power trips. My entire Toby debate is still up too, hilariously.

 

[Roo]

Are you sure China was always in US good books you should ask the Army men who served in Vietnam and Korea they might not agree .

Yeah and in 1940 we were allied with Russia and fighting Germany. Do you live in the past? As of now China avoids direct conflict with the U.S.

China might be good business partner but they have actively supplied weapons .

They will not directly interfere but they have supplied active intelligence and provided technology how do you think Iran can pinpoint their enemy location ?

I said direct conflict

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

And Vietnam too.

But it was commie Mao, not just "China".


Iran isn't even a neighboring country to China. I don't believe that they'll do anything. Still waiting for that Taiwan invasion.

It is not neighbour but they get lot of oil from them , but lets see i know Xi wont just call adonald to back off he will just monitor and bid his time.

China can calm down Iranian mullahs though and play mediator thats the only solution i see.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Yeah and in 1940 we were allied with Russia and fighting Germany. Do you live in the past? As of now China avoids direct conflict with the U.S.

I said direct conflict

Who said directly . There hasnt been direct war between major power since WW2 .

We are talking about proxy war . China has always supplied from backend this is known.

 

[Uncle Van]

And Vietnam too.

But it was commie Mao, not just "China".


Iran isn't even a neighboring country to China. I don't believe that they'll do anything. Still waiting for that Taiwan invasion.

The Venezuela president was supporting China in taking Taiwan. Or at least acknowledged that Taiwan belongs to China iirc. Wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the reasons U.S. attacked Venezuela.

 

[Roo]

Who said directly . There hasnt been direct war between major power since WW2 .

We are talking about proxy war . China has always supplied from backend this is known.

Do you think Iran has the money to pay? Because ultimately China is more interested in money than trying to fuck over the us

 

[NAMELESS]

The Venezuela president was supporting China in taking Taiwan. Or at least acknowledged that Taiwan belongs to China iirc. Wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the reasons U.S. attacked Venezuela.

I don't think so. Cuba and other Latin American nations ruled by Marxists did the same, and nothing happened at all. The US invaded for oil and to dismantle drug/weapons traffic.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Are you sure China was always in US good books you should ask the Army men who served in Vietnam and Korea they might not agree .

That happened in China's backyard

 

[Uncle Van]

I don't think so. Cuba and other Latin American nations ruled by Marxists did the same, and nothing happened at all. The US invaded for oil and to dismantle drug/weapons traffic.

I said "one of" and wouldn't surprised if it was a factor.

 

[Reborn]

Only Russia/China can stop this .

Neither of them can stop this.

It's not about lack of capacity but about strategic interests.

Tbh, war with Iran is working in their favors.

It's being reported that US is considering lifting sanctions from Russia to ease oil and gas supply. India already received 30 days waiver and is buying Russian oil stuck on seas.

Infact, Russian oil and gas demands are rising and they are gaining financially.


A crippled Iran would rely heavily on China. It would give China an opportunity to get oil at much discounted rate in future and also spread it's economic leverage in the region.


As I said earlier, major powers of the world are having strategic silence. They will intervene to get ceasefire only when economic consequences will start going out of control.

 

[Roo]

I said "one of" and wouldn't surprised if it was a factor.

Apparently that’s the rationale behind all these moves in neocon circles. Take away chinas sphere of influence or at least show China we’re not afraid of pushing back on them

makes sense considering Trump sees China as a bigger threat than Russia

 

[Reborn]

Good news is based on how US leaders are giving statements recently - on the lines of "it's US victory" and optimism from few ministers, it seems like we might see flow of Gas and oil through Hormuz within a week or so.