Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

I do believe that this vision is a result of the intersectionnality of capitalism and white supremacy. So to me, it's necessarily racist yes.

I guess everyone is racist, then. There is no civilization in the history of the world that went around inviting masses of other ethnicities to mix with them in their ancestral lands. The closest thing to this was the Spaniards and Portuguese mixing with indigenous Central and South Americans; still, Portugal's and Spain's demographics barely changed. Modern-day Africans or Middle Easterners would not want to be in the shoes of current Europeans. The current predicament only favors politicians and billionaires. Logiko, going by your values, you should be against this. This whole thing is about money, not justice. Migrants are there for their cheap labor.

 

[Okamakama]

I can now say with 100% that I will trust people (migrants included) now that I didn't trust in the past.

Good for you. One man's boon is another's bane.

I'm sorry that Asshole are surrounding you.

All exclusively from a certain section of the population, it's hard to ignore.

We share our existences and history, therefore we become stronger together.

Beautiful words - but devoid of any real weight. It simply is not feasible. As Zenos stated earlier:

after experiencing the multicultural experiment first hand all throughout my life, i definitely consider it a failed experiment.

He's correct.

Know that fear sometimes creates a vision of the world where all we can see is fear itself.

I do not really fear them. It's starting to develop into hatred. It's right to hate those who seek to use you for everything you have and destroy you.

So to me, it's necessarily racist yes.

Because you don't see the beauty in cultural homogeneity. Shared values and history. It helps one feel like they belong. Most people born in the modern world have never known it. I knew it for a short-time until it was eroded.

I guess everyone is racist, then. There is no civilization in the history of the world that went around inviting masses of other ethnicities to mix with them in their ancestral lands. The closest thing to this was the Spaniards and Portuguese mixing with indigenous Central and South Americans; still, Portugal's and Spain's demographics barely changed. Modern-day Africans or Middle Easterners would not want to be in the shoes of current Europeans. The current predicament only favors politicians and billionaires. Logiko, going by your values, you should be against this. This whole thing is about money, not justice. Migrants are there for their cheap labor.

 

[NAMELESS]

Because you don't see the beauty in cultural homogeneity. Shared values and history. It helps one feel like they belong

 

[Finalbeta]

Who has been following these 3 legends with their geopolitical leaks and analyses?

 

[Logiko]

I guess everyone is racist, then.

Pretty much, that is the point.

There is no civilization in the history of the world that went around inviting masses of other ethnicities to mix with them in their ancestral lands.

Yes, but before capitalism, these restriction were not based on nations and ethnicities but rather tribalism and ressources management.

As for people invinting others, you are literally leaving on a territory that once welcome people in masses thinking they would be benefactor. While not everyone agreed, the contacts were friendly, in fact, many indigeneous people welcomes ancient slave to be part of their culture as I explained earlier.

Nationalism and protection over borders based on patriotic affects is something that is quite recent.

The closest thing to this was the Spaniards and Portuguese mixing with indigenous Central and South Americans; still, Portugal's and Spain's demographics barely changed.

You mean the genocidal colonization of the continent of America ?

The current predicament only favors politicians and billionaires. Logiko, going by your values, you should be against this. This whole thing is about money, not justice. Migrants are there for their cheap labor.

As I explained, immigration only favors the ruling class when said immigration can be used to distract the racist part of the working class. But as soon as the immigration becomes politicized (which is starting to happen everywhere) the ruling class loses this advantage and the immigration becomes a force of change and revolution.

Beautiful words - but devoid of any real weight. It simply is not feasible. As Zenos stated earlier:

And yet this is something we observe everywhere.

It's starting to develop into hatred

I can see that. Usually, using our own experience and a small part of a group to justify the essentialization of the entire group.. is never the best way to keep hatred out.

Because you don't see the beauty in cultural homogeneity

I mean, some tried it.. didn't end well

I believe that culturl homogeneity is what breeds the collapse of civilization. A group that can't accept the alterity and can't expand beyond its own preconception.. is doom to create an autodestructive population, locked on itself and its own obsession.

The alterity is what makes the world interesting.

 

[NAMELESS]

Who has been following these 3 legends with their geopolitical leaks and analyses?

Where have you been?

 

[NAMELESS]

Who has been following these 3 legends with their geopolitical leaks and analyses?

Who are they?

 

[Zenos7]

Some character development right here.

what you waffling about, i didnt recently start to think this way lol.

 

[NAMELESS]

what you waffling about, i didnt recently start to think this way lol.

Then I guess it's a plot twist.

 

[Midnight Delight]

So be it. We will see it through. We've had tough times before, and we can take the tougher ones that we will have to go through now. That is perhaps what we were made for—to be able to take punishment beyond what anyone in this office has had before, particularly after leaving office. This is a test of character, and we must not fail the test

 

[Okamakama]

I mean, some tried it.. didn't end well

I believe that culturl homogeneity is what breeds the collapse of civilization. A group that can't accept the alterity and can't expand beyond its own preconception.. is doom to create an autodestructive population, locked on itself and its own obsession.

The alterity is what makes the world interesting.

The reality is, the Nazi regime fell because it was ran by a retarded autocrat who made too many enemies too quickly. There is a chance Nazi Germany could have won had they not alienated the slavs at the point they did.

We have cultural AND racial homogeneity all over the world, especially in third-world and developing countries. China is one, and they're a very powerful nation.

That is to say, racial and cultural homogeneity are not factors that will result in societal collapse.

And, just to ensure you don't throw accusations, I do not expect my nation to be 'ethnically pure'. My wife is half-asian, and my best friend is half-black. I just want the large majority of people to follow the same culture within my country.

Nationalism and protection over borders based on patriotic affects is something that is quite recent.

Protection of borders has always occurred. Border protection is not a new ideology. The Great Wall of China is a prime example. Why we protect borders is not important, the reality is, we've always tried to protect our people from the other.

Border protection is more important in this era than any other because we have aviation. The large swaths of immigration we have now was almost impossible in previous eras as people had to travel for much more time. Now, many can just get on planes. It's a different world, but humanity has not changed - they are just as tribal, and they (the migrants) favour their own tribe.

 

[Zenos7]

I mean, some tried it.. didn't end well

some are still doing it and doing well

 

[Zenos7]

The reality is, the Nazi regime fell because it was ran by a retarded autocrat who made too many enemies too quickly. There is a chance Nazi Germany could have won had they not alienated the slavs at the point they did.

nah, thats irrelevant, it was only the cultural homogenity

 

[Okamakama]

nah, thats irrelevant, it was only the cultural homogenity

I forgot that Logiko is the authority on all of world history, culture, and of course, SCIENCE.

 

[Midnight Delight]

I forgot that Logiko is the authority on all of world history, culture, and of course, SCIENCE.

By science he means social science

 

[Okamakama]

By science he means social science

But he tells us he's enlightened... it's gotta be true.

 

[Mathias]

after experiencing the multicultural experiment first hand all throughout my life, i definitely consider it a failed experiment.

Every society are multicultural. Some place like big cities more than smaller cities.

It's not an experiment. It's how life has been for ever.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Every society are multicultural. Some place like big cities more than smaller cities.

It's not an experiment. It's how life has been for ever.

Dishonest

 

[Mathias]

Dishonest

I don't see any argument in your post.

Saying that different people living next to each other "has failed" is such a ridiculous take.

The problem is intolerance. Which every society in history has known. But a perfect world with zero intolerance will probably never exist.

 

[Okamakama]

I don't see any argument in your post.

Saying that different people living next to each other "has failed" is such a ridiculous take.

The problem is intolerance. Which every society in history has known. But a perfect world with zero intolerance will probably never exist.

A homeland for me, but not for thee.

Because you'll find most migrants still want to keep their countries racially and culturally homogenous.