General & Others Get ready for the nerf of the decade guys

#22
Luffy on his last legs vs "nerfed" Kaido :steef::steef:
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So Luffy's Internal destruction was working but I was told, they did no damage whatsoever because Kaido keeps getting back up:bamathink:
Well if i try to see it objectively, the Onigashima crumbling stuff just happened after Luffy became a skysplitter. Before that, there was no such thing. So for Kaidou to be weakened solely after just a few moments of fighting newly-appointed skysplitter Luffy, it shows how much of a gamechanger AdvCoC is.

I'm among the ones who feel that Luffy hasnt used his internal destruction tho, since i' not convinced that he had even used it against Kaidou (no art depiction, no explicit comments about internal stuff etc), so i'll vouch for Luffy keeping that internal CoA hidden until he shows a new form that utilizes internal AdvCoA+AdvCoC just like how he utilized his FS to the max when he first displayed Snakeman.

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All in all we dont have to doubt Luffy's powerlevel anymore, it's his emotional depth and behavior that need a major fix lol we cant have Luffy being a brat who screams PK all the time against the WSC, its the decisive chance for Oda to portray Luffy as mature, responsible, emotionally-developed enough to shoulder those power lol
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#23
He already got nerfed. Poor guy is currently standing with perhaps 50-60% of his HP, I expected more, but since Onigashima is falling like that the former would make more sense to me personally.
 
#25
They also mentioned Onigashima was a bomb. Why would Kaido kill almost all of his crew just to destroy some land...
If onigashima falls from the sky it will explode, but i dont think thats what kaido wants, else it would destroy Onigashima in the process making his dream capital project impossible.

Soo in short, he dosent plan on literaly droping Onigashima from the sky on top of the capital, he wants to land it on top of the capital, wich will still destroy the capital, but not explode it.
 
#26
Luffy is on his last legs, not Kaido.
Luffy is currently more nerfed (multiple recent knock outs) than Kaido, so the Luffy that beats Kaido will beat him easier if both were healed to 100% and had a rematch.
Well...tbf if Kaidou is the one who damaged him, then it's not a nerf for Luffy right? Since if we wanna powerscale between Luffy vs Kaidou and how nerfed each side currently is, we cant use the damage they received from each other...
 
#27
we cant use the damage they received from each other...
But Luffy got a large proportion of that damage/stamina drain while or before learning adv CoC, he wouldn't have been knocked out if he had a better blocking method than the CoA crossblock which failed and opened him up to the Ragnarok (which he gained when he got adv CoC), he wouldn't have fainted if he had a less clumsy control of adv CoC (which he now has).

The majority of Kaido's damage/stamina drain has been at the hands of Luffy anyway, Luffy's techniques have been doing the most internal damage. Zoro got two effective strikes in that Kaido mostly instantly recovered from, Yamato got a few effective hits in, but neither have been doing deep internal damage which is what is required to take Kaido down. The other scabbards/SNs did basically nothing to Kaido.
 
#28
I'm already dreading the asspulls. I thought nothing could get worse than snakeman and katakuri stabbing himself, but I think I'm going to be proven wrong.
 
#31
Oda is making the plot he wants without any care for logic.

Zoro shines on the rooftop, tanks a yonko combo attack but he is destroyed (otherwise that would dehype the yonkos too much) yet he still has to fight King. What to do? Magic heal potion.

We need some kind of imminent danger which is about to happen in order to build tension (see Alabasta bomb, Doffy's plotcage and so on), let's make Kaido drop his base on the top of the capital of the country he controls.

A battle with overwhelming odds and no real chance to win. Oda puts in a girl who make enemy captains and below ready to die for her after eating a japanese biscuit.

Kaido is the strongest in the world yet Luffy has to beat him. Aside from the usual gangbang make Kaido defeat Luffy just for the rubber boy to be saved by a convenient submarine and back to fight in litterally minutes (see Onigashima fall time). Also learn new powers mid fight but that is already old.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#32
Oda is making the plot he wants without any care for logic.

Zoro shines on the rooftop, tanks a yonko combo attack but he is destroyed (otherwise that would dehype the yonkos too much) yet he still has to fight King. What to do? Magic heal potion.

We need some kind of imminent danger which is about to happen in order to build tension (see Alabasta bomb, Doffy's plotcage and so on), let's make Kaido drop his base on the top of the capital of the country he controls.

A battle with overwhelming odds and no real chance to win. Oda puts in a girl who make enemy captains and below ready to die for her after eating a japanese biscuit.

Kaido is the strongest in the world yet Luffy has to beat him. Aside from the usual gangbang make Kaido defeat Luffy just for the rubber boy to be saved by a convenient submarine and back to fight in litterally minutes (see Onigashima fall time). Also learn new powers mid fight but that is already old.
I admit I didn't find the medicine plot very convincing but it has to be said that in this world characters can heal their bones by drinking milk. Perhaps that could have been more congruent given the historical still, it would not have looked less weird still. xd
 
#34
It's not like it's haki related so can we really call it a nerf? How exactly does it affect him in battle if it's just a part of his devil fruit power?
Does it make his hybrid weaker? Does it make his swings less effective?

I don't think anybody has actually asked these questions. Or made a logical conclusion as to why it would be considered a nerf. :sus:
So far it just seems like a good way to gauge Kaido's condition.
 
#35
kaido was retarded from the start, allowing himself to suffer a lot of unnecessary damage from far weaker opponents than him, instead of going full aggro, but oda thinks it's a good idea to just make him stand still while his opponents rain down everything they've got on him.

the PIS is apparent in all post timeskip villains.

oda in the last two arcs has showcased a massive downgrade in writing capabilities, he can no longer write good characters/stories/fights/worldbuiling/dialogue/etc...
 
#40
Oda is preparing for that hard on nerf on Kaido, making him get "tired" because of carrying onigashima which begs the question, why the hell is Kaido carrying onigashima in the first place? Did Oda just create this plot line solely to eventually nerf Kaido? Whats next, Kaido is going to stab himself while fighting Luffy? Oh wait that already happened to nerf Katakuri LMFAO! Nothing in Wano is making any sense.
him carrying it is the nerf. everyone is taking what yamato said at face value and forgetting shes a retarded person. kaido has been fighting nerfed and distracted this entire time, and the second he drops the island and focuses 100% on the fight its another powerup for kaido
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Kaido does not spend stamina on carrying the island, that wasn't said at all.

The flames "fading" are an indicator of his stamina, that's all. It's similar to Birdcage for now, neither him or Doflamingo waste energy on it.
of course he does. using devil fruit powers expends stamina. this is universal.
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Didn't Kaido undergo that massive damage before the recent chapters? You think he would regen all the damage so quickly? :choppawhat:
kaido is the strongest creature in the world, a mythical beast with the highest defense and regen in the series. yes, he can regen whatever he wants. he was healing from the scabbards cuts by the next chapter, sometimes by the next panel
 
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