Powers & Abilities Gomu Gomu no mi: a devil fruit that is worth 5 billion berry | what's the secret behind this power?

#41
pirate Jesus Luffy with god-tier family line + the $5B DF.
:seriously:
I mean the bounty of the fruit has not been made canon
and tbf we already knew he was sort of the chosen one
shanks said it
pedro said it
rayleigh bought into it .
iirc in the oden flashback it was predicted when the next joyboy(pk) would be born
and obv kaido's fate was predicted 20 yrs prior

it always was a story centred around accomplishing destiny.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#42
They obviously know lol. That's why they were guarding it in first place.
I meant very specifically. As you noticed the devil fruit showed several gear patterns. It would be enciting to figure out how much creativity there's on Luffy and how much came as a natural consequence of possessing this devil fruit. I think that Luffy inventing the gears is something to be recognized as his inventive but also an intrinsic specific capacity of the devil fruit itself for obvious reasons. So what I wanted to know is how much they really consider this devil fruit dangerous and important, and it might be that it's considered the most based off the story that has been set.
 
#46
I meant very specifically. As you noticed the devil fruit showed several gear patterns. It would be enciting to figure out how much creativity there's on Luffy and how much came as a natural consequence of possessing this devil fruit. I think that Luffy inventing the gears is something to be recognized as his inventive but also an intrinsic specific capacity of the devil fruit itself for obvious reasons. So what I wanted to know is how much they really consider this devil fruit dangerous and important, and it might be that it's considered the most based off the story that has been set.
Oh, I agree on that part. Although Luffy is very creative with his ability, but the gear system would not be possible without the gomu gomu no mi.
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This is what stupid fodder Luffy fans get for say Enma is special Oden haki
Now Luffy has Joyboy fruit and haki
Enma is still special, Luffy's special DF doesn't change anything.
 
#50
Kidd will use that big ass sword just you wait!
As for the gomu gomu fruit being especial might have to do with its awakening:turning into a giant,dwarf,turning stuff into rubber and compressing it,etc...
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EOS Final war Luffy:gatling red hawk and red roc!Unlimited gear 4 and shuffling between gear 4 forms:boundman,tankman,snake man,tigerman(i believe he has a form for raw power),awakening:turning surrondings into rubber,Gear 5:turning into a giant for a couple of minutes!Fully mastered advanced haki forms!
That's pirate king fire power right there!Moriah split an island with one punch,imagine what a giant luffy could pull of with advanced coa+coc!
Also base Luffy might turn into chibi luffy at will and will be able to strech very far away(even more than now)!
 
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#52
I mean the bounty of the fruit has not been made canon
and tbf we already knew he was sort of the chosen one
shanks said it
pedro said it
rayleigh bought into it .
iirc in the oden flashback it was predicted when the next joyboy(pk) would be born
and obv kaido's fate was predicted 20 yrs prior

it always was a story centred around accomplishing destiny.
Yes,some one who gets it,Jesus Luffy has been set up since Shanks passed the Straw Hat to him!
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#53
I'm not that sold on Joy Boy eating Gomu Gomu in the past as a giant assuming he existed during the impervious Void Century. It usually doesn't fit a giant so much well as a devil fruit in my opinion, on the other hand however not necessarily and that would be cool if true.
 
#54
I'm not that sold on Joy Boy eating Gomu Gomu in the past as a giant assuming he existed during the impervious Void Century. It usually doesn't fit a giant so much well as a devil fruit in my opinion, on the other hand however not necessarily and that would be cool if true.
I also don't think that the DF once belonged to JoyBoy.
 
#55
As I've promised to you all, I'm making this thread because I have few things to say about this NEW reveal about Luffy's DF.

Since the pre-timskip I had this filling that Luffy's DF has some kind of special ability or power, but I've never created any threads about it because I had no evidence whatsoever, just my observation.


I mean think about it, isn't it stronge that Shanks carries Luffy's DF in a box and always keeps it close to himself? The gomu gomu no mi was Shanks' loot from his pirate raid, he should have kept it in his treasury within his ship alongside with his other treasures, or at the very least given it to his crew members to guard it. But no, he was carrying it personally, always keeping it close to himself, why? What's so special about one DF that a Fucking Yonko is guarding it? It was always strange to me, very strange, but I never had any reason to speculate, until now.
  • 5 billion berry devil Fruit
For those who don't know, there were two other versions of one piece called "romance dawn" before the actual series started, and in the "romance dawn N2" there was an interesting reveal about gomu gomu no mi...

Yes, that's right, gomu gomu no mi is worth as much as Law's ope ope no mi, that by itself indicates that Luffy's devil fruit has some pretty special ability. But what ability?
Now, some people come up with very ludacris ideas like: teleportation or time travel...
:lawsigh:
First of all, we already have the time travel DF that belongs or belonged to Toki. And second, isn't it enough for one big plot hole with Toki's DF ability and you want even more?

You have to be realistic, we have to speculate within the boundaries of Luffy's DF abilities, type and possibilities.

  • Shape Shifting Abilities
Now, this is very interesting. Have you heard of "plastic man or elastic man?"

These two characters are from Marvel and DC universe respectively. Both of them can easily change their SIZE, and that's the most interesting part that I wanna concentrate upon. What if after awakening Luffy could easily change the size of his body, transforming from colossal giant that can tower over read line/Marijoa, like the titans from "attack on titan" or squeeze himself to the size of Tontata tribe? Sounds interesting right.

We know as a fact that the WG was experimenting on Gigantification, so they for sure would be interested in a DF that can make anyone as big as Oze or even Bigger.

One DF that can do that is Sanjuan Wolf's ability that allows him to change his size, but you have to consider the fact that Sanjuan Wolf is a giant by himself, so the effect of the DF would not be as extreme on a regular human as it is in Sanjuan Wolf. On the other hand, gomu gomu should thecniquely allow any user to change his form from one extreme to the other. You now probably wonder, what's the exact usage of it?

  • Warrior, Builder, Destroyer

  1. By becoming a giant you obviously become stronger, imagine Luffy using gear 4th after becoming 300 meter colossal, an insane power booster.
  2. Thanks to the enormous size, you can easily change the geography by relocating islands, just like continent pullers.
  3. You can through islands at your enemy, destroy and an entire armada, or move mountains.
But, what if you could turn other things into rubber and squeeze them to the size of a tennis ball and put them into your pockets? Sounds interesting, right!? Imagine taking huge rocks and and squeezing them small enough so that you can carry them in your pockets, and then when the time comes you can take them out and through them at your enemy, I think that's a power that the WG would want to have.

But here's the most interesting part: As you already know, Thriller bark is very similar to the Wano arc, as matter of fact, Thriller bark foreshadowed a lot of things that happened in Wano. So, let's take a look at Thriller bark once more, shell we.

In Thriller bark arc Luffy turned into a blue giant, and used a GIANT SWORD to fight against Oze. Now, we have a GIANT SWORD in Wano, bet where's the giant that can use it?

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If Gomu2 has the value of 5 billion etc, it was in romance dawn. Saying it has the same price as Law's Ope2 doesn't apply here, it's literally a different universe. WhosWho just said it was stolen and he was surprised, it doesn't say powerlevel-oriented stuff about the fruit itself.

That being said, if all of Luffy's rubber powerups all this time, even including Gears, or future powerups such as Awakening application etc, is entirely rooted from the special innate abilities of Gomu2 itself, and NOT Luffy's creativity,

then i legitimately lose faith in Luffy as a character. CoC is the willpower to stand above all others, sure Oda may get away with that. But Luffy didn't originally invent CoC using his brain or technique, it's mostly destiny stuff and chosen one stuff. As powerful as it is, it's a ripoff. How about Future Sight? The same vague explanation. Everyone using CoO should have FS if they break a certain limit. Apparently even Rayleigh or Kaidou himself didn't. How it was gained only by Luffy is vague and especially lazy. Only CoA hardening-rubber fusion is somewhat original from the haki power aspect.

...And now there's a possibility that Oda planned for Gomu2 to be the Chosen One's fruit as well? Not related to Luffy's own inventions and applications of using it? At least Enma needs training to tame even if Kaidou and BM said about Oden's haki presence powerup. But after so many haki ripoff and laziness in explaining how can Luffy be the only one to gain FS-CoC-VOAT and all the strongest messianic powers, Oda also wants the Gomu2 powerful applications and Gears to be a purely special just because its innate trait and completely leave Luffy' contribution out of it?

I'm completely against it. It destroys what's left of Luffy's own struggle and credibility, if there's any. But even if i disagree to this notion, i guess i must prepare myself to be disappointed and see Luffy copy-pastes all ultimate powers unto himself since he's the one being destined to do it, and beat Kaidou by being a ripoff.
 
#56
While this sounds cool I would much rather Luffy awakening to be similar to Gentle from My Hero Academia by giving rubber/elastic properties to anything he touches...even air.

This will indirectly increase his speed, mobility, power and even defense rebounding attacks through solidifying air. Being a giant will most likely have decrease with his speed and mobility.
 
#57
While this sounds cool I would much rather Luffy awakening to be similar to Gentle from My Hero Academia by giving rubber/elastic properties to anything he touches...even air.

This will indirectly increase his speed, mobility, power and even defense rebounding attacks through solidifying air. Being a giant will most likely have decrease with his speed and mobility.
Yeah this is the most likely thing to happen, from the two paramecia awakenings we've seen so far.

Making his body giant would just be awkward, he already has G3 to throw a giant's punches.
 
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