Character Discussion Goofy fans on edge, 3 chapters of humiliation in a row

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#81
3 panels worth of controlling the fight and toying with Lucci....

there was no ACoC involved and zoro just created a new attack on the fly to body Lucci...
3 panels I guess akainu no diffed kuzan cuz it was all offscreen we saw cutbacks to lucci vs zoro most was offscreen and both were tired and in the end zoro found an opportunity to land
 

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#82
3 panels I guess akainu no diffed kuzan cuz it was all offscreen we saw cutbacks to lucci vs zoro most was offscreen and both were tired and in the end zoro found an opportunity to land
yawn...


majority of that time of fight was in kuma/bonneys backstory the actual real time was about 5-6 ch total enough of your peabrain powerscalers.. if you actually read the manga you will even see in one full chapter ts bonney and kuma falling the entire time meanwhile verything thats happening in that same time is in the next chapters.... 3 ch worth of seconds in one piece time frame.

the way you kids try to convoy a counter argument is pretty funny... you act as if the full fight was 14 chapters worth of content where admirals would probably be about that meanwhile a base zoro fighting an awakended Lucci who was able to take multiple G5 hits, much better display than Kizaru showed, zoro finally found an opportunity to land you mean where Lucci tried to sneak Zoro and got outpaced and bodied?

this is how the fight went - one sided from the start:

ch1091 - zoro calls out lucci as being a punk and waiting for kizaru to finally try and do something while only using 2 swords.


ch1093:

zoro isnt even using any sort of haki against Lucci in his awakened form, doesnt really look like hes taking the fight too seriously and doesn't have any trouble keeping up with Luccis speeds... he is the one advancing and pushing lucci - zoro only using two swords to start and barely using any haki is more than enough to take Zoros words as Lucci isnt really anything special compared to Zoro where is not that impressed by him in the slightest.


next page wehave once again Zoro talking down to Lucci as if he is nothing finally zoro decides to use haki.


ch1094:

Zoro literally stops using 3 swords to fight Lucci lmfao he wasnt even worthy of going all out or being taken half serious


ch1107:

oh look once again Zoro is only using 2 swords with basic CoA meanhwhile Zoro says hes finally going to end it cause its just a waste of time now just toying with Lucci..


ch1110:

Zoro decides hes goign to end it now cause all the Gorosei have arrived and realized there are actual threats to the SH.

Zoro literally handicapped himself in this fight - once again we can see Zoro is only using 2 swords with no haki... while even when Lucci decided to take advantage of Zoro moving his attention away form him he is esily able to react to Luccis speeds that he evaded the attack all together created a new move that was a play on Luccis own move that one shot him with a regular 3 sword style haki attack


in one piece real time this fight lasted on the higher end of 15 minutes of Zoro using 2 swords.... 6 pages total were dedicated to this "fight" where if we chop em all up its a total of 4 pages this is much less than even rnd 1 and 2 lasted for Zoro vs Kizaru.

Zoro at best got pushed to mid diff cause he wasnt even taking Lucci seriously and was just using 2 swords the entire fight. realistically though if zoro was serious this is an easy no to low diff matchup for zoro that is facts and canonically proven.

this is all simply a case of PIS as the overall story is focusing on Nika: Light vs Dark, Luffy vs the Gorosei & Kuma and Bonneys backstory where the whole point was the lead up to Kuma coming in and saving Bonney alongside the Giants setting up Elbaf...

maybe you should actually read the manga instead of pushing your agendas. at any point zoro couldve literally ended the fight whenever he wanted to.
 
#83
The fact is that Jimbei did not strike, except for a gust of wind from 10 meters. Jimbei confirmed Zoro's victory twice. It's stupid to argue with a manga:kayneshrug:
Zoro was also standing after the fight with Kuma, but Zoro's fans did not tell that Zoro could continue the fight in such a state. Zoro destroyed Lucci with one blow and inflicted one of the most severe wounds in the series. In the top 5 wounds.
Yeah but Zoro himself said the fight wasn't over. You can argue with the manga all you want doesn't change the fact Lucci was still standing in zoan form.

Oden inflicted a wound on Kaido but was still ready to throw hands wounds mean nothing.
 

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呪のろいの王
#84
Yeah but Zoro himself said the fight wasn't over. You can argue with the manga all you want doesn't change the fact Lucci was still standing in zoan form.

Oden inflicted a wound on Kaido but was still ready to throw hands wounds mean nothing.
& jimbei said it was over not just once but twice
 
#85
Yeah but Zoro himself said the fight wasn't over. You can argue with the manga all you want doesn't change the fact Lucci was still standing in zoan form.

Oden inflicted a wound on Kaido but was still ready to throw hands wounds mean nothing.
Yes, but then Lucci came out of zoan's uniform and was on his knees bleeding. Zoro was standing after the fight with Kuma (but obviously he couldn't fight anymore). According to Jimbei, everything is over and the enemy has been defeated. Then only Lucci's death
 
#86
yawn...


majority of that time of fight was in kuma/bonneys backstory the actual real time was about 5-6 ch total enough of your peabrain powerscalers.. if you actually read the manga you will even see in one full chapter ts bonney and kuma falling the entire time meanwhile verything thats happening in that same time is in the next chapters.... 3 ch worth of seconds in one piece time frame.

the way you kids try to convoy a counter argument is pretty funny... you act as if the full fight was 14 chapters worth of content where admirals would probably be about that meanwhile a base zoro fighting an awakended Lucci who was able to take multiple G5 hits, much better display than Kizaru showed, zoro finally found an opportunity to land you mean where Lucci tried to sneak Zoro and got outpaced and bodied?

this is how the fight went - one sided from the start:

ch1091 - zoro calls out lucci as being a punk and waiting for kizaru to finally try and do something while only using 2 swords.


ch1093:

zoro isnt even using any sort of haki against Lucci in his awakened form, doesnt really look like hes taking the fight too seriously and doesn't have any trouble keeping up with Luccis speeds... he is the one advancing and pushing lucci - zoro only using two swords to start and barely using any haki is more than enough to take Zoros words as Lucci isnt really anything special compared to Zoro where is not that impressed by him in the slightest.


next page wehave once again Zoro talking down to Lucci as if he is nothing finally zoro decides to use haki.


ch1094:

Zoro literally stops using 3 swords to fight Lucci lmfao he wasnt even worthy of going all out or being taken half serious


ch1107:

oh look once again Zoro is only using 2 swords with basic CoA meanhwhile Zoro says hes finally going to end it cause its just a waste of time now just toying with Lucci..


ch1110:

Zoro decides hes goign to end it now cause all the Gorosei have arrived and realized there are actual threats to the SH.

Zoro literally handicapped himself in this fight - once again we can see Zoro is only using 2 swords with no haki... while even when Lucci decided to take advantage of Zoro moving his attention away form him he is esily able to react to Luccis speeds that he evaded the attack all together created a new move that was a play on Luccis own move that one shot him with a regular 3 sword style haki attack


in one piece real time this fight lasted on the higher end of 15 minutes of Zoro using 2 swords.... 6 pages total were dedicated to this "fight" where if we chop em all up its a total of 4 pages this is much less than even rnd 1 and 2 lasted for Zoro vs Kizaru.

Zoro at best got pushed to mid diff cause he wasnt even taking Lucci seriously and was just using 2 swords the entire fight. realistically though if zoro was serious this is an easy no to low diff matchup for zoro that is facts and canonically proven.

this is all simply a case of PIS as the overall story is focusing on Nika: Light vs Dark, Luffy vs the Gorosei & Kuma and Bonneys backstory where the whole point was the lead up to Kuma coming in and saving Bonney alongside the Giants setting up Elbaf...

maybe you should actually read the manga instead of pushing your agendas. at any point zoro couldve literally ended the fight whenever he wanted to.
I didn’t count the flashback chapters ofc n I guess luffy vs kizaru rd 1 was what 2 minutes ? then vegapunk getting stabbed luffy vs saturn, kizaru kicking sanji luffy 2v1 kizaru saturn, the five elders vs dorry n brogy n luffy was all taking place as zoro was fighting lucci there is no way that happened in 15 minutes he was fighting lucci for atleast 30 minutes at less
 

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#89
I didn’t count the flashback chapters ofc n I guess luffy vs kizaru rd 1 was what 2 minutes ? then vegapunk getting stabbed luffy vs saturn, kizaru kicking sanji luffy 2v1 kizaru saturn, the five elders vs dorry n brogy n luffy was all taking place as zoro was fighting lucci there is no way that happened in 15 minutes he was fighting lucci for atleast 30 minutes at less
is this all you have as a rebuttal?

lol
 

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呪のろいの王
#91
I didn’t count the flashback chapters ofc n I guess luffy vs kizaru rd 1 was what 2 minutes ? then vegapunk getting stabbed luffy vs saturn, kizaru kicking sanji luffy 2v1 kizaru saturn, the five elders vs dorry n brogy n luffy was all taking place as zoro was fighting lucci there is no way that happened in 15 minutes he was fighting lucci for atleast 30 minutes at less
zoro v lucci starts at 1091

lets say rnd 1 of kizaru v luffy is 2mins this fight ends at 1094 where Saturn arrives and 1095 is about 30sec to a minutes worth of content in real time.

flashback runs to 1103 where it picks up where we left off at & no time has passed. Kizaru is already regaining and getting up later on and in 1104 hes back in action lets say total time is 5-10 minutes if that

lets add another 30sec to a minute from 1104-1105

from ch 1105 is where kuma and bonney begin falling and they stay airborne in the same place through 1106 where it is literally seconds of action queue to 1107 where we get POV from everyone else and it pans back to where we left off at Bonney & Kuma finally fall and Luffy sends Saturn away cut to that island 1108 Saturn ports back and Luffy fights both Saturn and Kizaru lets say a few minutes past 2-5 mins

1109 begins Vegapunks countdown of 10 minutes from 1109 to 1111 where Lucci is sent flying and already lost there is only a 4 minute difference in real time now lets say from the time he is sent flying to talking to gorosei 30 seconds passed

at best Zoro vs Lucci time was a total of 14 minutes and at worst the total time is 21 minutes...
 
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#93
zoro v lucci starts at 1091

lets say rnd 1 of kizaru v luffy is 2mins this fight ends at 1094 where Saturn arrives and 1095 is about 30sec to a minutes worth of content in real time.

flashback runs to 1103 where it picks up where we left off at & no time has passed. Kizaru is already regaining and getting up later on and in 1104 hes back in action lets say total time is 5-10 minutes if that

lets add another 30sec to a minute from 1104-1105

from ch 1105 is where kuma and bonney begin falling and they stay airborne in the same place through 1106 where it is literally seconds of action queue to 1107 where we get POV from everyone else and it pans back to where we left off at Bonney & Kuma finally fall and Luffy sends Saturn away cut to that island 1108 Saturn ports back and Luffy fights both Saturn and Kizaru lets say a few minutes past 2-5 mins

1109 begins Vegapunks countdown of 10 minutes from 1109 to 1111 where Lucci is sent flying and already lost there is only a 4 minute difference in real time now lets say from the time is 30seconds

at best Zoro vs Lucci time was a total of 14 minutes and at worst the total time is 20 minutes...
luffy vs kizaru rd 1 was definitely not 2 minutes though I’d say 10 minutes so thts 30 in real time just know it took zoro half n hr to beat a lucci who fought a yonko n stussy n the seraphim vs a hakiless non ambitious g5 luffy taking 6 minutes
 

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#94
luffy vs kizaru rd 1 was definitely not 2 minutes though I’d say 10 minutes so thts 30 in real time just know it took zoro half n hr to beat a lucci who fought a yonko n stussy n the seraphim vs a hakiless non ambitious g5 luffy taking 6 minutes
literally cant make this shit up...
I didn’t count the flashback chapters ofc n I guess luffy vs kizaru rd 1 was what 2 minutes ?
even then it took a non serious base two sword style handicapped Zoro while only using Haki on Enma "30 minutes" to end the fight with Lucci who was able to tank multiple G5 hits....
 
#96
literally cant make this shit up...


even then it took a non serious base two sword style handicapped Zoro while only using Haki on Enma "30 minutes" to end the fight with Lucci who was able to tank multiple G5 hits....
lucci was lucky luffy chose body shots over tht one kick to the face and y would zoro be playing around non serious w lucci while knowing the crew is in danger? it’s no wonder jimbei was mad he was being stalled
 

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#98
lucci was lucky luffy chose body shots over tht one kick to the face and y would zoro be playing around non serious w lucci while knowing the crew is in danger? it’s no wonder jimbei was mad he was being stalled
ive already stated why.....

maybe you should start reading kid.

its been proven factually and canonically, you can cry all you want but its all there in the manga.
 
Always a Zoro profile pic.
Probably they think that zoro not getting in a position like that somehow puts zoro above luffy I remember seeing that zoro fans think zoro not getting a tough fight till wano somehow means he was stronger then luffy rather then a lack of opponents to give him a hard fight and the opponents who were meant for luffy (doffy) would stomp him
And they think that zoro not getting a tough fight means he didn’t get stronger since the post timeskip began which is baseless zoro himself said they get stronger after every arc even if they don’t notice it
Don't forget that zoro finish his job against lucci
Luffy low diffed lucci and knocked him out for a while (you forget time passed
And he awoke thanks to being an awakened zoan

Not to mention the obvious differences between blunt force and blades so someone one punching someone is more impressive the a slash
1 After a fight with Zoro's base. 2 After a fight with g5 +4 name attacks + haki.

Zoro used adv coc he is always at base he has no transformation
And just cope and accept that zoro isn’t yonko level yet he is only slightly above sanji zoro fans want zoro to already be yonko level so bad
And seem to refuse to accept that someone having a. Moment where they aren’t constantly cool or loses doesn’t mean anything about their strength

In relation to zoro luffy is way above zoro while zoro is equal to sanji
Going but sanji got eye diffed (when it’s more like he got knocked down by Saturn attack while his exo wasn’t on and got paralyzed by hax)won’t change that

But doffy stomped sanji while zoro got a cool fight where he demolished pica doesn’t change the fact dressrosa zorowas only slightly above dressrosa sanji
To the but yonko sanji fans can make the Same argument about sanji and gorosei
Sanji being sallowed to look
 
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