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Character Discussion Gorosei being Monsters would be a disastrous final blow to Yonkobros.
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It'd be horrible story wise whether you are a Yonko fan or an Admiral stan
The whole balance of power thing makes no sense and the stakes of the entire story (be it God Valley, Marineford, Onigashima or the great age of Piracy itself) would be worth NOTHING if the Gorosei are the strongest characters in the story
The whole balance of power thing makes no sense and the stakes of the entire story (be it God Valley, Marineford, Onigashima or the great age of Piracy itself) would be worth NOTHING if the Gorosei are the strongest characters in the story
Not really.
The balance of power was between Marines and pirates. The gorosei already basically said "Marines don't matter." They let marine handle things and only step in when it's serious.
"be it God Valley, Marineford, Onigashima or the great age of Piracy itself) would be worth NOTHING"
These events other than God valley and onigashima are already worth nothing. The gorosei didn't really even get involved.
The balance of power was between Marines and pirates. The gorosei already basically said "Marines don't matter." They let marine handle things and only step in when it's serious.
"be it God Valley, Marineford, Onigashima or the great age of Piracy itself) would be worth NOTHING"
These events other than God valley and onigashima are already worth nothing. The gorosei didn't really even get involved.
Gorosei having powers don't break balance of power at all.
We often forget that imu perhaps lived since void century and Gorosei lived for centuries.
They really don't need to do shit for WG always when they can create Navy who can do work for them and was doing great until Roger
Yonkou system came only after Roger became Pk because this system acted like a check on pirates to become PK.
And, to counter these yonkous they had admirals and Warlords.
These 3 balanced each other out and kept WG biggest worry at bay - someone getting one piece.
We often forget that imu perhaps lived since void century and Gorosei lived for centuries.
They really don't need to do shit for WG always when they can create Navy who can do work for them and was doing great until Roger
Yonkou system came only after Roger became Pk because this system acted like a check on pirates to become PK.
And, to counter these yonkous they had admirals and Warlords.
These 3 balanced each other out and kept WG biggest worry at bay - someone getting one piece.
Uhhh what's the big deal here ? We already knew that......
The WG controls the whole world, they rule over milions of people, and they obviously have power that far surpasses the one of a single Yonko....
The Yonkos / Navy + Warlords ( now Seraphims ) are just " filters " to keep pirates ( people ) from going rampage all over the world.
Yonkos give pirates a goal so they focus on defeating the Yonkos ( which are the main obstacle to go straight for the One Piece ) instead of causing trouble all over the world, but the Yonkos are insanely strong so no one can do that, and pirates mostly work alone.
Navy + Warlords ( now Seraphims ) keep Yonkos in check from either destroying each other or conquering too much and thus attraining power that could cause harm to the WG.
We saw that power in action when they ereased Lulusia from existance, and yeah they could also have fighters above or equal the 4 emperors, i mean they pulled 2 new admirals out of their ass and 2 vice admirals candidate to become Admirals.
The difference between the WG and the 4 emperors is that the 4 emperors are at each other's throats constantly if they were to join forces it would probably be easy too for the them to acquire...idk ancient weapons / knowledge & sh** by sharing intel etc and seriously cause harm to the WG......
The WG controls the whole world, they rule over milions of people, and they obviously have power that far surpasses the one of a single Yonko....
The Yonkos / Navy + Warlords ( now Seraphims ) are just " filters " to keep pirates ( people ) from going rampage all over the world.
Yonkos give pirates a goal so they focus on defeating the Yonkos ( which are the main obstacle to go straight for the One Piece ) instead of causing trouble all over the world, but the Yonkos are insanely strong so no one can do that, and pirates mostly work alone.
Navy + Warlords ( now Seraphims ) keep Yonkos in check from either destroying each other or conquering too much and thus attraining power that could cause harm to the WG.
We saw that power in action when they ereased Lulusia from existance, and yeah they could also have fighters above or equal the 4 emperors, i mean they pulled 2 new admirals out of their ass and 2 vice admirals candidate to become Admirals.
The difference between the WG and the 4 emperors is that the 4 emperors are at each other's throats constantly if they were to join forces it would probably be easy too for the them to acquire...idk ancient weapons / knowledge & sh** by sharing intel etc and seriously cause harm to the WG......
I disagree with some points here. If WG can just pull some top tiers in Navy then what was the point of Shichibukai(now Seraphims)?
I agree that the difference between the WG and the 4 emperors is that the 4 emperors are at each other's throats constantly but if they were to band with each other they would destroy the Navy without the Warlords. With the creation of Seraphims further proves this. Seraphims are pure strength, no influence nor territory.
I agree that the difference between the WG and the 4 emperors is that the 4 emperors are at each other's throats constantly but if they were to band with each other they would destroy the Navy without the Warlords. With the creation of Seraphims further proves this. Seraphims are pure strength, no influence nor territory.
I think it was still for the sake of balance like not giving too much power to the Navy so that they can just overwhelm all the pirates ( remember that the elders considers the Admirals / the Navy just a tool )
But Navy and Shichibukai are still " people " and can go against their plans ( like Shichibukai resigning or getting defeated out of nowhere )
The Seraphims are just more reliable than the Shichibukai, ( in fact no one from the Navy has control over the Seraphims ( except for Sentomaru if u want to consider him ) ) they won't do weird sh** and will only be deployed if necessary
But Navy and Shichibukai are still " people " and can go against their plans ( like Shichibukai resigning or getting defeated out of nowhere )
The Seraphims are just more reliable than the Shichibukai, ( in fact no one from the Navy has control over the Seraphims ( except for Sentomaru if u want to consider him ) ) they won't do weird sh** and will only be deployed if necessary
This is why powerscaling is dumb. Even if they are powerful, its not about them being stronger or weaker than any remaining Yonko or Admirals. Thats not really how the series operates.
The WSC is now irrelevant to the rest of the story (for now), implying that the remaining Yonko and Admirals are, relatively, more important/dangerous to Luffy and crew.
For the Gorosei to the "the strongest" or "most dangerous", they'd have to be the last major villains in the series. While this is certainly possible, its not even guaranteed with BB and Shanks still in the running. Its also a pretty big detriment on the Admirals specifically because its currently assumed the crew would need to go through New Marineford before Mariejois. I.e. Admirals first, then WG/Gorosei
So yes, maybe 1 or both Yonko fall before this. Itd cement the level of danger any pirate would have against the Marines/WG, but we dont even know this yet. Its also just as likely the reverse happens. Maybe the final war is somehow before Laugh Tale. Maybe Mariejois isnt the last location. We actually dont know the order yet.
The WSC is now irrelevant to the rest of the story (for now), implying that the remaining Yonko and Admirals are, relatively, more important/dangerous to Luffy and crew.
For the Gorosei to the "the strongest" or "most dangerous", they'd have to be the last major villains in the series. While this is certainly possible, its not even guaranteed with BB and Shanks still in the running. Its also a pretty big detriment on the Admirals specifically because its currently assumed the crew would need to go through New Marineford before Mariejois. I.e. Admirals first, then WG/Gorosei
So yes, maybe 1 or both Yonko fall before this. Itd cement the level of danger any pirate would have against the Marines/WG, but we dont even know this yet. Its also just as likely the reverse happens. Maybe the final war is somehow before Laugh Tale. Maybe Mariejois isnt the last location. We actually dont know the order yet.