Powers & Abilities Harald needs to do a Solo Sky split
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What? Do we still have people on this forum who think that either power scaling isn’t important to understanding the series or that Oda himself doesn’t care about the power scale of this story?
really? It’s almost 2026 and people still think that Oda himself isn’t extremely careful with who gets what feats and in what context in his story?
really? It’s almost 2026 and people still think that Oda himself isn’t extremely careful with who gets what feats and in what context in his story?
Exactly, its not important lol, not in the way you guys throw the term around. Oda has a very basic concept on who's at the top and who's under them.
Take for example this thread. You were already shown Harald and Xebec were relatively equal. Multiple people explained it to you. But you apparently needed a specific feat to happen, which didnt. Hence my point lol
Take for example this thread. You were already shown Harald and Xebec were relatively equal. Multiple people explained it to you. But you apparently needed a specific feat to happen, which didnt. Hence my point lol
Except whenever Oda always adds Asterisks in all these fights
I mean in your mind you think it’s unimportant that Oda had Harald stop fighting Loki so that Loki could kill him as opposed to giving Loki a clean win like Garp and Roger had against Rocks
like to you Oda isn’t even thinking about this. Oda could’ve had Loki just straight up fight Harald 1v1 and Harald loses fair and square. And Oda didn’t do this purely for plot purposes and not because it doesn’t make sense in the power scale
I mean in your mind you think it’s unimportant that Oda had Harald stop fighting Loki so that Loki could kill him as opposed to giving Loki a clean win like Garp and Roger had against Rocks
like to you Oda isn’t even thinking about this. Oda could’ve had Loki just straight up fight Harald 1v1 and Harald loses fair and square. And Oda didn’t do this purely for plot purposes and not because it doesn’t make sense in the power scale
No because he's thinking about the emotional scene drawn between father and son because otherwise that double spread wouldnt exist nor hit the same if "I love you too" wasnt stated by Harald in the end, which required the scene to play out the way it did.
But, "muh powerscaling" so clearly this isnt something that registers with you lol.
But, "muh powerscaling" so clearly this isnt something that registers with you lol.
Right because Harald couldn’t have been written to have had his “I love you” AFTER an actual fight where he was actually defeated in an actual 1v1
And Of course Oda repeats this pattern of adding shit to all his top tier fights by accident. By accident Luffy needs 3 rounds against Kaido and multiple interruptions because the power scaling of how Luffy can defeat Kaido doesn’t matter, all that matters is the “emotions” or whatever
you must think nothing ever actually happens when like any character gets a power up since according to you the character probably could’ve won even without those power ups since the power scale doesn’t matter
And Of course Oda repeats this pattern of adding shit to all his top tier fights by accident. By accident Luffy needs 3 rounds against Kaido and multiple interruptions because the power scaling of how Luffy can defeat Kaido doesn’t matter, all that matters is the “emotions” or whatever
you must think nothing ever actually happens when like any character gets a power up since according to you the character probably could’ve won even without those power ups since the power scale doesn’t matter
No because when does Oda ever draw out full 1v1's in flashbacks lol.
see above, Oda does not give 2 shits about fights save for Luffy's and sometimes other strawhats.
Nope, like I said, there IS a very basic and obvious heirarchy with everything in this story and powers, its just absolutely not that deep because Oda cares more about character emotion over any powerscaling lol.
see above, Oda does not give 2 shits about fights save for Luffy's and sometimes other strawhats.
Nope, like I said, there IS a very basic and obvious heirarchy with everything in this story and powers, its just absolutely not that deep because Oda cares more about character emotion over any powerscaling lol.
Kaido vs Luffy lasted 28 chapters.
thats 28 chapters if we ignore the many chapters in between where other fights happened
you think it wasn’t intentional by Oda that Kaido got jumped and Luffy got several power ups and got defeated and returned multiples times and literally died and was resurrected all to demonstrate in 28 chapters how difficult it is for Luffy to rise up the power scale and defeat Kaido even when Kaido has been weakened by multiple other people throughout the arc
I genuinely wonder if you read all these 28 chapters just getting angry that Oda is wasting your time trying to justify Luffy getting this strong and nerfing Kaido to make it believable that he lost.
and what emotion was involved in the kid and killer vs big mom fight anyway? A fight in which Oda even refused to give Kid and Law an actual win and instead a bunch random bombs beat her instead. So emotional how Oda has Environmental hazards win and it’s DEFINITELY NOT Oda maintaining a power scale by demonstrating that kid and law can’t actually beat Big mom
thats 28 chapters if we ignore the many chapters in between where other fights happened
you think it wasn’t intentional by Oda that Kaido got jumped and Luffy got several power ups and got defeated and returned multiples times and literally died and was resurrected all to demonstrate in 28 chapters how difficult it is for Luffy to rise up the power scale and defeat Kaido even when Kaido has been weakened by multiple other people throughout the arc
I genuinely wonder if you read all these 28 chapters just getting angry that Oda is wasting your time trying to justify Luffy getting this strong and nerfing Kaido to make it believable that he lost.
and what emotion was involved in the kid and killer vs big mom fight anyway? A fight in which Oda even refused to give Kid and Law an actual win and instead a bunch random bombs beat her instead. So emotional how Oda has Environmental hazards win and it’s DEFINITELY NOT Oda maintaining a power scale by demonstrating that kid and law can’t actually beat Big mom
I REALLY think you have entirely misunderstood the point of my comments here lol. I do not give a flying fuck how long Oda spends on fights. I also do not give a fuck how quick he resolves them. I do not care about powerscaling.
I was poking fun at your first comment. Which did not pan out because Oda does not give a shit either, especially over dead characters who have zero presence in current plot.
Not every fight is emotional. Not every fight is a powerscale. Stop cherry picking my comments to suffice a point with present Yonko and the MC and his biggest allies out of all characters.
DR Xebec > HK Harald? Sure. Cool. Great. You dont need a doctorates to understand that Gaban and 25 year old Shanks arent stronger than Roger and Garp, let alone the fact that they did NOT beat Harald.
That said, its not that fuckin deep lmao. Both are dead. Both were relative to each other before they were dead. We dont know effects of Domi Reversi vs a contract. But "muh haki explosion" isnt going to do anything for you there anyway
I was poking fun at your first comment. Which did not pan out because Oda does not give a shit either, especially over dead characters who have zero presence in current plot.
Not every fight is emotional. Not every fight is a powerscale. Stop cherry picking my comments to suffice a point with present Yonko and the MC and his biggest allies out of all characters.
DR Xebec > HK Harald? Sure. Cool. Great. You dont need a doctorates to understand that Gaban and 25 year old Shanks arent stronger than Roger and Garp, let alone the fact that they did NOT beat Harald.
That said, its not that fuckin deep lmao. Both are dead. Both were relative to each other before they were dead. We dont know effects of Domi Reversi vs a contract. But "muh haki explosion" isnt going to do anything for you there anyway
Exactly. You don’t care about the things Oda himself cares about.
I personally don’t care about whether you care. I engage with power scaling because it’s incredibly clear to me that ODA himself writes the story so that people engage with the power scaling
you don’t care that Oda took 28 chapters for Luffy to beat Kaido BUT ODA DOES. That’s why he wrote 28 chapters of this fight spread across 47 chapters with multiple power ups and and diversions for Luffy
Oda himself cares about the power scale so I care about the power scale. You don’t give a shit so you know that’s fine. Keep not caring. You can continue onto caring elsewhere
I personally don’t care about whether you care. I engage with power scaling because it’s incredibly clear to me that ODA himself writes the story so that people engage with the power scaling
you don’t care that Oda took 28 chapters for Luffy to beat Kaido BUT ODA DOES. That’s why he wrote 28 chapters of this fight spread across 47 chapters with multiple power ups and and diversions for Luffy
Oda himself cares about the power scale so I care about the power scale. You don’t give a shit so you know that’s fine. Keep not caring. You can continue onto caring elsewhere
Lmao
- Inflates Hancock and Crocodile's frozen bounties from 80 million to over a billion each post Wano. With Hancock maybe this makes sense, with Crocodile it does not and never did.
- Massively upscales Dorry and Brogy post Haki and facing Gorosei and Brogy nearly died to fucking Mr 3.
- Makes Mihawk "question" how close he was to Whitebeard when he couldnt get past Joz but considers him another Yonko's rival with a close bounty
- Makes Mihawk stall against Vista
- Has Crocodile stall against Doflamingo and Mihawk
- Allows Marco to stall against Kizaru until he was distracted but had massive issues against King and Queen in the end, whom Ryokugyuu apparently demolishes no problem.
- Never lets Kid get 1 shot by BM (who hit him point blank several times with punches and Ikoku Sovereignty) yet Shanks could with virtually zero effort.
- Writes as if Doflamingo could stop or deal with Kuzan or Fujitora in his encounters with them, prevents Fujitora from breaking Bird Cage, and yet Luffy defeats him and proceeds to struggle against YCs who are canonically weaker than Admirals.
But sure, yes, Oda cares so much about intricate, precise powerscaling lol.
Ill say it one more time. I did not say powerscaling doesnt exist in this manga, I said powerscaling doesnt exist in this manga to the degree you hold it to when the author routinely contradicts portrayal of certain characters as the story goes on.
- Inflates Hancock and Crocodile's frozen bounties from 80 million to over a billion each post Wano. With Hancock maybe this makes sense, with Crocodile it does not and never did.
- Massively upscales Dorry and Brogy post Haki and facing Gorosei and Brogy nearly died to fucking Mr 3.
- Makes Mihawk "question" how close he was to Whitebeard when he couldnt get past Joz but considers him another Yonko's rival with a close bounty
- Makes Mihawk stall against Vista
- Has Crocodile stall against Doflamingo and Mihawk
- Allows Marco to stall against Kizaru until he was distracted but had massive issues against King and Queen in the end, whom Ryokugyuu apparently demolishes no problem.
- Never lets Kid get 1 shot by BM (who hit him point blank several times with punches and Ikoku Sovereignty) yet Shanks could with virtually zero effort.
- Writes as if Doflamingo could stop or deal with Kuzan or Fujitora in his encounters with them, prevents Fujitora from breaking Bird Cage, and yet Luffy defeats him and proceeds to struggle against YCs who are canonically weaker than Admirals.
But sure, yes, Oda cares so much about intricate, precise powerscaling lol.
Ill say it one more time. I did not say powerscaling doesnt exist in this manga, I said powerscaling doesnt exist in this manga to the degree you hold it to when the author routinely contradicts portrayal of certain characters as the story goes on.