Powers & Abilities Has Luffy mastered G4

[Blackbeard]

Channeling the emission Haki inside other objects/persons is what 2nd stage of advanced armament Haki (internal destruction) does. 1st stage (emission) does increase the attack potency:

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furthermore, Luffy thought this stage of advanced armament Haki could even harm the invulnerable Kaido whom easily shrugged off G4's normal armament Haki strikes.

 

[Rmstorm]

Only because you fail to comprehend simple logic, doesn't mean my claims are absurd.

You don't have to show the same destructive capacity feats on each panel; nothing says that Bound Man's next KKG levels up a city again by sending someone away.
That's only your headcanon, nothing else.



You are spewing nonsense.

This is Bound Man's Kong Gun against Doflamingo:

It sends Doflamingo flying kilometers away, launching him till in the middle of the city.

This is Bound Man's Kong Gun against Katakuri:

Although Katakuri flew quite a lot, this is nowhere comparable to being launched from a mountain till a city. And yet, Bound Man's AP is still the same.

Advanced CoA allows you to destroy the inner body; although it can show visible destructive capacity as well - I never denied this btw - doesn't mean it is always measured by destructive capacity.



Doesn't really matter; when Luffy trained his advanced CoA, he used his KKG on an object as well and its destructive capacity was nowhere comparable to Dressrosa's - doesn't mean it is weaker, though.

There was no need to show extraordinal destructive capacity feats when Bound Man simply destroyed a single ship worth of fodders. It is not worth any panels to make it more spectacular unlike Luffy's finishing move against an arc antagonist...

You are simply wrong.



How does that look for you?

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These shockwaves are extremely powerful even without physical contact.

And yes, Bound Man doesn't need brute strength, his advanced CoA will injure Kaido's inner body but on the other hand, it is also obvious that Bound Man's advanced CoA should be able to handle Kaido's strength effectively.
Penetrating his skin isn't everything on this fight.

And besides, re-read this again: Exactly that's the case; Bound Man's current punches can be compared to its previous KKG without having the brute strength of said technique.
Either way, current Bound Man's attacks should be even more effective since it is more balanced now.

I always talked about current Bound Man's attack potency - and its attack potency isn't only determinated by its visible destructive capacity and brute strength as you falsely claim.

Hence Bound Man's advanced CoA attacks should have a similar damage output like KKG as well, if not even better even if current Bound Man's brute strength isn't on par with DR KKG.

Katakuri is bigger than Doflamingo and wieghs more, so ofcourse he would not fly as far as Doflamingo. Katakuri is 16ft 10 and built, Doflamingo is 10 feet and skinny.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

How do you picture the concept of advanced CoA in your head, when you are talking about "conserve CoA" and "wasted haki"? I'm really interested, no ulterior motive.

Apparently Luffy was using haki in places he didn't need to.

It's like Gyo and Ko in hunter X hunter sort of

 

[Finalbeta]

There's no way to speculate on this matter honestly, it's something only Oda can decide point blank.

But my gut tells me Luffy will soon have no problems related with G4, it will become like "normal haki usage".

 

[Rmstorm]

Technically, Advanced haki should not be compatible with Gear 4. Oda is a hack writer.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Technically, Advanced haki should not be compatible with Gear 4. Oda is a hack writer.

Pray tell how you came to that conclusion?

 

[Finalbeta]

Pray tell how you came to that conclusion?

Yep it makes no sense. Under any possible way we look at it.

 

[Rmstorm]

Pray tell how you came to that conclusion?

Gear 4 relies on haki to keep the air inside and change/ maintain shape, as well as use compression to increase attacks.

It uses Haki constantly,
Advanced Armament Haki takes haki from the parts not needed inside Luffy's body, and expels it. VIZ

1)Is Luffy not then using all of his haki in his body when combining Gear 4 with Advanced Haki?

2)How can luffy be wasting haki in Gear 4 when it uses haki constantly?

3) This would mean Luffy has less time in Gear 4 not more.

Oda was on drugs when he made Gear 4. The man does not know what he is doing.

 

[RYNO]

Oda was on drugs when he made Gear 4. The man does not know what he is doing.

Yeah saying that oda doesn't know what his doing before anything happens with advance CoA and G4 in a actual fight isn't smart idea.
Maybe hold off saying that stuff until we see luffy using aCoA with G4.

 

[Rmstorm]

Yeah saying that oda doesn't know what his doing before anything happens with advance CoA and G4 in a actual fight isn't smart idea.
Maybe hold off saying that stuff until we see luffy using aCoA with G4.

Oda doesn't know what he is doing. He proved that in the Cracker and Katakuri fight.

 

[Rmstorm]

Yep it makes no sense. Under any possible way we look at it.

I responded to you.

 

[Berserker]

He has. he can go in and out of G4 at will with no problem. And time limit should've improved massively. The only thing remaning is partial G4. Idk if the concept exist or not, but imagine G2 on feet, G4 on hands. It would be a good combo in most cases.

And to OP: His KKG isn't smaller now, it would be no differnt from KG visually in that case. It's probably just drawing error.

 

[Rmstorm]

He has. he can go in and out of G4 at will with no problem. And time limit should've improved massively. The only thing remaning is partial G4. Idk if the concept exist or not, but imagine G2 on feet, G4 on hands. It would be a good combo in most cases.

And to OP: His KKG isn't smaller now, it would be no differnt from KG visually in that case. It's probably just drawing error.

It' not a drawing error, he has found way that fixes all that power of King Kong Gun into a single point. That is his new King Kong Gun.

 

[Berserker]

It' not a drawing era, he gas found way to fixus all that power of King Kong Gun into a single point. That is his new King Kong Gun.

Most likely, it is. There's no point in KKG and KG looking the exact same way visually. More importantly, the mechanics of G4 demands otherwise.

 

[Finalbeta]

Most likely, it is. There's no point in KKG and KG looking the exact same way visually. More importantly, the mechanics of G4 demands otherwise.

Yes KKG requires more charging time in particular

 

[Rmstorm]

Most likely, it is. There's no point in KKG and KG looking the exact same way visually. More importantly, the mechanics of G4 demands otherwise.

Its not a drawing error, all of the haki that he would use to make with the old King Kong Gun is added to his normal kong Gun making it a king kong gun without brute force. That is the new King Kong Gun.

With the added effect of destroying objects from the inside out.

This is due to him being able to manipulate the haki flow in his body.

 

[BOCCHI]

the new KKG isn't a giant enlarged fist, so its DC isn't as great ass the old KKG. But it has the same power due to ACoA

Since when did we have small KKG lol! Mate Oda simply skipping panels and not show the whole process doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist anymore... it’s like those who back in the day thought Luffy didn’t need to blow his thumb to activate G3 cuz it wasn’t shown on panel....

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think Gear 4 is an amalgamation of Power/Speed/Defense, however, Boundman is the "Balanced" form.

It exhibits all 3 qualities. Defense was easily shown against Doflamingo with the soft yet hard rubber/haki combo. He uses Culverin (as opposed to Jet Culverin with Snakeman) and uses Gorilla/Lion based attacks as well for the offense. Boundman is fast 2, as it allowed him to catch up to Doflamingo when he first couldnt.

Thats why Tankman and Snakeman exist, to exhibit enhanced Defense and Speed Capabilities. Luffy doesnt have speed or power when he used Tankman (he has to seemingly reflect someones power against them). Snakeman uses "Jet" and Snake named moves, something Boundman didnt have, but it lacked "power".

This is why I think there is an attack form coming, and we will see it against Kaido. That will be the first new thing Luffy tries against Kaido: Brute Force. Once that doesnt work, his new advanced haki will give him yet another form for Gear 4 or simply Gear 5.

Dunno if he'll achieve awakening this arc though

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think Gear 4 is an amalgamation of Power/Speed/Defense, however, Boundman is the "Balanced" form.

It exhibits all 3 qualities. Defense was easily shown against Doflamingo with the soft yet hard rubber/haki combo. He uses Culverin (as opposed to Jet Culverin with Snakeman) and uses Gorilla/Lion based attacks as well for the offense. Boundman is fast 2, as it allowed him to catch up to Doflamingo when he first couldnt.

Thats why Tankman and Snakeman exist, to exhibit enhanced Defense and Speed Capabilities. Luffy doesnt have speed or power when he used Tankman (he has to seemingly reflect someones power against them). Snakeman uses "Jet" and Snake named moves, something Boundman didnt have, but it lacked "power".

This is why I think there is an attack form coming, and we will see it against Kaido. That will be the first new thing Luffy tries against Kaido: Brute Force. Once that doesnt work, his new advanced haki will give him yet another form for Gear 4 or simply Gear 5.

Dunno if he'll achieve awakening this arc though

I think tankman is supposed to be the power form
simply being heavier should give his punches more base power than boundman.

also in terms of AP, Gomu Gomu no cannon ball is on par with KKG

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think tankman is supposed to be the power form
simply being heavier should give his punches more base power than boundman.

also in terms of AP, Gomu Gomu no cannon ball is on par with KKG

The tankman we saw at WCI was a special case, it wasnt the real tankman.