Break Week How BLACK BLADES are really FORGED!

How are Kokuto's forged?

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#82
Makes me wonder against whom Ryokugyu fought so much that he forged a Black Blade.

To this day, I still think Ryokugyu stole Fujitora's black blade while he was sleeping :laughmoji:
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Considering that Zoro wants to forge 3 of them black, I am not sure if Shanks has enough juice left
Sanji is there, don't worry :blush:
 
#87
"Every sword can become a black blade"
That can then advance to the same grade/color as Roger’s and WB’s blades. Outside of Imu’s attack to take out Sabo, what attack/clash in OP is more powerful or close to the Roger/WB clash? Neither BM or Kaido’s weapons are the same color as black blades. I don’t think Rayleigh’s blade is “black” either.
 
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nik87

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#88
That can then advance to the same grade/color as Roger’s and WB’s blades. Outside of Imu’s attack to take out Sabo, what attack/clash in OP is more powerful or close to the Roger/WB clash? Neither BM or Kaido’s weapons are the same color as black blades. I don’t think Rayleigh’s blade is “black” either.
Roger's and WBs weapons can become black blades too.
Hakai>anything we have seen so far. And it wasnt Imu's attack, more likely an ancient weapon.
Who would need those if individual could effortlessly erase islands...
 
#89
I dont think "haki specialty" ever existed.
It was always the affinity to one of the colors...
And it matches the color that each of the 3 used first.
I am certain that it is either due to mastery of god path or a result of mastery of all six paths.
This would mean all others never mastered those 6 paths, Ryuma and Mihawk aside.
They do exist. Oda went out of his way to explain this in an SBS, and Rayleigh straight up explains that each person has a natural affinity to a specific color, which is why they tend to focus on that color after unlocking haki.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#90
They do exist. Oda went out of his way to explain this in an SBS, and Rayleigh straight up explains that each person has a natural affinity to a specific color, which is why they tend to focus on that color after unlocking haki.
Now translate that to Zoro and tell us how his CoA is supposed to be more developed than his CoC.
Or how Luffy's CoC is more developed than his CoA.
 
#91
Now translate that to Zoro and tell us how his CoA is supposed to be more developed than his CoC.
Or how Luffy's CoC is more developed than his CoA.
What do you mean more developed? Zoro uses CoA with ease. Luffy uses CoC with ease. Took Luffy two weeks to train his CoA to internal destruction. Took him 2 seconds to learn to do the same with CoC......

Zoro just unlocked CoC and used it in one fight. We have zero clue how much he knows about it, and how well he can control it. He didn't even know CoC was what he was using during the King fight. He still might not know what it is.
 
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nik87

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#95
What do you mean more developed? Zoro uses CoA with ease. Luffy uses CoC with ease. Took Luffy two weeks to train his CoA to internal destruction. Took him 2 seconds to learn to do the same with CoC......

Zoro just unlocked CoC and used it in one fight. We have zero clue how much he knows about it, and how well he can control it. He didn't even know CoC was what he was using during the King fight. He still might not know what it is.
Zoro uses CoC with ease too, all he had to do was stop holding back and there it is, flows the same as it flows on specialist Luffy...
The speciality/affinity so far only refers to haki they used first time ever. And aCoC was the last Luffy used so by logic, that one would be the one that he is least talented at...
 
#96
Zoro uses CoC with ease too, all he had to do was stop holding back and there it is, flows the same as it flows on specialist Luffy...
The speciality/affinity so far only refers to haki they used first time ever. And aCoC was the last Luffy used so by logic, that one would be the one that he is least talented at...
What are you talking about? Luffy used CoC before he ever used any other type of haki. Not only did he use it preskip a few times unconsciously, and it's the first thing he used on Sabaody when the Straw Hats reunited.

And no, Zoro does not use it with ease. As far as we know, he didn't even understand it was CoC he was using, when King pointed it out. Just like how he cut steel on Alabasta, but after the fight still didn't know what it was that he did.
 

nik87

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#97
What are you talking about? Luffy used CoC before he ever used any other type of haki. Not only did he use it preskip a few times unconsciously, and it's the first thing he used on Sabaody when the Straw Hats reunited.

And no, Zoro does not use it with ease. As far as we know, he didn't even understand it was CoC he was using, when King pointed it out. Just like how he cut steel on Alabasta, but after the fight still didn't know what it was that he did.
He never used aCoC before others like aCoA and aCoO, in fact, it came last. The complete opposite of his affinity...
Look at Bird Dance, as easy as it gets. Whether he knows or not, he still uses it effortlessly, the same way Luffy does.
There is no difference in their aCoC coating, one is not more refined than the other. The affinity is nowhere to be seen.
 
#98
He never used aCoC before others like aCoA and aCoO, in fact, it came last. The complete opposite of his affinity...
Look at Bird Dance, as easy as it gets. Whether he knows or not, he still uses it effortlessly, the same way Luffy does.
There is no difference in their aCoC coating, one is not more refined than the other. The affinity is nowhere to be seen.
Lol, what does that matter? All AdCoC is, is taking normal CoC, and adding it to your attack via flowing your haki. It's not some new tier of CoC.

Anyone with even basic CoC can apply it to their attacks as long as they know how to flow thier haki.

Real advanced CoC is what Shanks did to Whitebeards ship, and what he did to Green Bull. That's a whole new level of CoC where it destroys environments, and paralyzes people. Like how Internal Destruction is a level above barrier.
 
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nik87

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#99
Lol, what does that matter? All AdCoC is, is taking normal CoC, and adding it to your attack via flowing your haki. It's not some new tier of CoC.

Anyone with even basic CoC can apply it to their attacks as long as they know how to flow thier haki.

Real advanced CoC is what Shanks did to Whitebeards ship, and what he did to Green Bull. That's a whole new level of CoC where it destroys environments, and paralyzes people. Like how Internal Destruction is a level above barrier.
Kaido and Big Mom havent shown CoA flow barriers and ID and yet they can flow their CoC.
If Luffy's talent was really CoC, he would have used CoC coating long before FS and ID. But he didnt.
All that supposed talent to use aCoC in the same day talent-less Zoro used it too...

Ship theatrics are just CoC barrier that we saw in the clash of Luffy and Katakuri, they destroyed the environment too...
Paralyzing people is not going to be the case, imo. Nobody gets an easy advantage like that.
Even if it becomes a thing, everyone will have a counter for it.
 
Kaido and Big Mom havent shown CoA flow barriers and ID and yet they can flow their CoC.
If Luffy's talent was really CoC, he would have used CoC coating long before FS and ID. But he didnt.
All that supposed talent to use aCoC in the same day talent-less Zoro used it too...

Ship theatrics are just CoC barrier that we saw in the clash of Luffy and Katakuri, they destroyed the environment too...
Paralyzing people is not going to be the case, imo. Nobody gets an easy advantage like that.
Even if it becomes a thing, everyone will have a counter for it.
They don't have to show it. We know they can do it, because they can coat their attacks in CoC. That's literally what we are told is happening. You take CoC, and coat your attacks, just like you do with flowing haki and CoA. There is no next level CoC required, in order to be able to coat your attacks with them. Next level CoC is destroying environments, and paralyzing people.

And no, Luffy wouldn't have been able to use it long before FS and ID, because Luffy didn't know how how to flow his Haki, prior to that. Flowing Haki is a requirement. Took Luffy 2 seconds to be able to coat his attack in CoC once he realized it could be done. Took him two weeks to learn Internal Destruction.

2 weeks for CoA compared to 2 seconds for CoC. CoC is by far and above Luffy's Haki specialty.
 
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