Break Week How BLACK BLADES are really FORGED!

[nik87]

They don't have to show it. We know they can do it, because they can coat their attacks in CoC. That's literally what we are told is happening. You take CoC, and coat your attacks, just like you do with flowing haki and CoA. There is no next level CoC required, in order to be able to coat your attacks with them. Next level CoC is destroying environments, and paralyzing people.

And no, Luffy wouldn't have been able to use it long before FS and ID, because Luffy didn't know how how to flow his Haki, prior to that. Flowing Haki is a requirement. Took Luffy 2 seconds to be able to coat his attack in CoC once he realized it could be done. Took him two weeks to learn Internal Destruction.

2 weeks for CoA compared to 2 seconds for CoC. CoC is by far and above Luffy's Haki specialty.

ID has nothing to do with this.
Kaido and Big Mom can coat CoC without knowing ID. Yamato is proof of this.
Even flow of CoA has never been said to be a requirement for CoC coating. It could be but whether it is, idk.
It seems that Luffy's specialty was blocked off by his lack of talent for CoA...

If he learned to flow haki in Alabasta like Zoro, he could have been using CoC coating all this time...
Destroying the environment is just a pressure around haki user, the same thing that splits the sky, cracks the ship or the ground like in the case of Luffy vs Katakuri... If there is such a thing as another step of CoC, we have not seen it yet.
Anyway, we should go back to black blades and the inability of top tier blade users to forge them black.

 

[Rootbeer]

All that supposed talent to use aCoC in the same day talent-less Zoro used it too...

lt adds up perfectly when you realise Zoro only used CoC and not AdCoC for Enma mode activation and to stabilize it..
The Sword only required CoC to be happy.. Nothing shows AdCoC is involved in Zoro's new sword technique..

 

[BlackLegFring]

Whichever way it turns out to be, it will only disappoint the hardcore Zoro fanbase since it has already been distinguished from strength since Roger did not forge one.

 

[nik87]

lt adds up perfectly when you realise Zoro only used CoC and not AdCoC for Enma mode activation and to stabilize it..
The Sword only required CoC to be happy.. Nothing shows AdCoC is involved in Zoro's new sword technique..

Dying on that hill is useless.
The whole world knows it except you...

 

[Rootbeer]

Dying on that hill is useless.
The whole world knows it except you...

Cause the whole world wants to wank Zoro to no end.. Like Advanced Haki sword techniques have not
been explained..

 

[nik87]

Cause the whole world wants to wank Zoro to no end.. Like Advanced Haki sword techniques have not
been explained..

Wanking Zoro to no end is the only way to go.
aCoC has just been a stepping stone for Zoro.
He is going after something far higher - Kokutos.
But you are free to believe that Zoro doesnt have aCoC.

 

[Boiroy]

Cause the whole world wants to wank Zoro to no end.. Like Advanced Haki sword techniques have not
been explained..

You're a gone case 🤣🤣🤣 you're back again to make a fool out of yourself 😳

 

[mly90]

You're a gone case 🤣🤣🤣 you're back again to make a fool out of yourself 😳

Who knows maybe he will awaken reality bending powers if he keeps deluding himself like this

 

[Rootbeer]

Wanking Zoro to no end is the only way to go.
aCoC has just been a stepping stone for Zoro.
He is going after something far higher - Kokutos.
But you are free to believe that Zoro doesnt have aCoC.

AdCoC <----> Kokutos

 

[nik87]

AdCoC <----> Kokutos

Kokutos are too hard for aCoC mastah Shanksu.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

ID has nothing to do with this.
Kaido and Big Mom can coat CoC without knowing ID. Yamato is proof of this.
Even flow of CoA has never been said to be a requirement for CoC coating. It could be but whether it is, idk.
It seems that Luffy's specialty was blocked off by his lack of talent for CoA...

If he learned to flow haki in Alabasta like Zoro, he could have been using CoC coating all this time...
Destroying the environment is just a pressure around haki user, the same thing that splits the sky, cracks the ship or the ground like in the case of Luffy vs Katakuri... If there is such a thing as another step of CoC, we have not seen it yet.
Anyway, we should go back to black blades and the inability of top tier blade users to forge them black.

I say Internal Destruction, because that was the end product. Luffy's goal was to learn coating, so he could use barrier Haki. By happenstance, he ended up surpassing both by a landslide, which took him two weeks to do.

He used CoC coating, the second he learned it was possible. No training, no struggling, nothing.... Straight up used it, like he'd been doing it for years.

Again, Top Tiers inability to Blacken their blades will boil down to Haki specialty, and proficiency with CoA/Koka.... It'll have nothing to do with CoC.

 

[nik87]

He used CoC coating, the second he learned it was possible. No training, no struggling, nothing.... Straight up used it, like he'd been doing it for years.

Again, Top Tiers inability to Blacken their blades will boil down to Haki specialty, and proficiency with CoA/Koka.... It'll have nothing to do with CoC.

The same happened to Zoro tho, different path but with the same goal.
Luffy had to get clubbed with aCoC while Zoro had to satisfy his sword.
In the end, both realized that aCoC can flow.
So, nobody in the world aside from Zoro and Mihawk is specializing in CoA?

 

[NAMELESS]

Black Blades=adv coa+adv coc+meitou+lots of battles until the blade and user become one.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

The same happened to Zoro tho, different path but with the same goal.
Luffy had to get clubbed with aCoC while Zoro had to satisfy his sword.
In the end, both realized that aCoC can flow.
So, nobody in the world aside from Zoro and Mihawk is specializing in CoA?

Plenty of people do.

Like I said earlier, it is "forged through many battles." Constant applying of Koka to ones blade, which effectively is hardening it over and over and over, everytime Koka is applied. Zoro is the only character we see who is always hardening his weapons. He will be at the pinnacle of Koka before the series ends, and consistently be applying the highest tier of hardening on his weapons.

Name another weapon user who uses Koka on their weapon even a fraction of the amount of times Zoro has done it.

 

[L55]

Whichever way it turns out to be, it will only disappoint the hardcore Zoro fanbase since it has already been distinguished from strength since Roger did not forge one.

It just means roger was not that guy

 

[nik87]

Plenty of people do.

Like I said earlier, it is "forged through many battles." Constant applying of Koka to ones blade, which effectively is hardening it over and over and over, everytime Koka is applied. Zoro is the only character we see who is always hardening his weapons. He will be at the pinnacle of Koka before the series ends, and consistently be applying the highest tier of hardening on his weapons.

Name another weapon user who uses Koka on their weapon even a fraction of the amount of times Zoro has done it.

If that was the case, you'd see countless Kokutos in the world.
Cracker and Raisin are coating their swords into Hardening...
Vergo would have Kokuto too...
The rarest achievement in the series is no way done in such a way.
We have yet to know what all others are lacking.

 

[Rootbeer]

Kokutos are too hard for aCoC mastah Shanksu.

Just not worth it for someone who is not aiming for WSS anymore..

 

[L55]

Plenty of people do.

Like I said earlier, it is "forged through many battles." Constant applying of Koka to ones blade, which effectively is hardening it over and over and over, everytime Koka is applied. Zoro is the only character we see who is always hardening his weapons. He will be at the pinnacle of Koka before the series ends, and consistently be applying the highest tier of hardening on his weapons.

Name another weapon user who uses Koka on their weapon even a fraction of the amount of times Zoro has done it.

Ray shanks oden wb roger got good coa
No black blade

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

If that was the case, you'd see countless Kokutos in the world.
Cracker and Raisin are coating their swords into Hardening...
Vergo would have Kokuto too...
The rarest achievement in the series is no way done in such a way.
We have yet to know what all others are lacking.

Knowing how to, and consistently using it all the time, like Zoro does, is two different things.

Katakuri already told us there is levels to hardening.

And as I said, Zoro will be at max level Koka by EoS, which will also factor into it.

 

[Rootbeer]

CoC Mastery >>> Black Blades