Questions & Mysteries How can the 5 Supernova REALISTICALLY win the fight?
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Crocodiles goal was to get the ponygraph in order to get stronger and become the strongest pirate the bomb was a dead line for the straw hats to defeat him btu there were ways in which they could have stopped them, If they bomb failed there was no reason for crocodile to go and kill everyone because taht was never his goal ( the proof was pell was able to save everyone by flying with the bomb). In kaidos case its different because nothing will stop him if the SN fail. Unless you can give one scenario that makes sense where something is going to stop KAido from enslaving the people of Wano again and possibly killing alot of people in the prosses. And yes kaido is enslaving wano literally.
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Typical argument " they'll die"
Kaido will not lose in act 3 or act 4 unless Yamauo confronts him, Navy comes, CoC clashes and his own flashbacks starts.
This is the dumb stuff people thought
"Retainers will win... or weaken Kaido coz they cant let Oden die in vain.. "
Forget about whatever... Kaidou using hybrid is like Katakuri using awakening vs g2/g3 luffy before he used boundman even.!
He hasn't been serious at all.
Typical argument " they'll die"
Kaido will not lose in act 3 or act 4 unless Yamauo confronts him, Navy comes, CoC clashes and his own flashbacks starts.
This is the dumb stuff people thought
"Retainers will win... or weaken Kaido coz they cant let Oden die in vain.. "
Forget about whatever... Kaidou using hybrid is like Katakuri using awakening vs g2/g3 luffy before he used boundman even.!
He hasn't been serious at all.
They must win. They maybe win to a yonkou But they cant to 2 yonkous.
# BM has Fire, Kaido too. But SN only Zoro, try to count Luffy's Gut too. SN need help from another who uses fire : marco/kinemon/sanji
# BM & kaido has lightning. SN need something
# Yonkous can fly. SN need to attack from close distance. Luffy, Law, Kidd can manage & maybe effectively make damage if only a yonkou.
SN still need help, e.g.
- ability that can stall a yonkou : marco / sanji invisibilty
- or 2 more of luffy
- or 9 revival of scabbards
# BM has Fire, Kaido too. But SN only Zoro, try to count Luffy's Gut too. SN need help from another who uses fire : marco/kinemon/sanji
# BM & kaido has lightning. SN need something
# Yonkous can fly. SN need to attack from close distance. Luffy, Law, Kidd can manage & maybe effectively make damage if only a yonkou.
SN still need help, e.g.
- ability that can stall a yonkou : marco / sanji invisibilty
- or 2 more of luffy
- or 9 revival of scabbards
Kaido vs Luffy, Kidd, Law, Killer, *Zoro for a moment*
--> luffy: "zoro, i take kaido, you take bm"
--> zoro: ".... ok..., captain"
BM vs Zoro + 9 Scabbards
"Zoro round up samurai"
Still no sanji though.
If you want to force, you can do it like:
After sanji solo queen, he flies to strike Both Yonkou with his invisibility.
2 yonkous will get distract to use CoO on sanji. "As expected from Judge son/ Mr. Prince wank". Then each side can do a finisher to make a huge damage to each Yonkou, so Yonkous HP is less than 50%.
Then the number of Yonkou side is half from the beginning number.
Done deals https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...r-1004-spoilers-discussion.10903/post-1084961
--> luffy: "zoro, i take kaido, you take bm"
--> zoro: ".... ok..., captain"
BM vs Zoro + 9 Scabbards
"Zoro round up samurai"
Still no sanji though.
If you want to force, you can do it like:
After sanji solo queen, he flies to strike Both Yonkou with his invisibility.
2 yonkous will get distract to use CoO on sanji. "As expected from Judge son/ Mr. Prince wank". Then each side can do a finisher to make a huge damage to each Yonkou, so Yonkous HP is less than 50%.
Then the number of Yonkou side is half from the beginning number.
Done deals https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...r-1004-spoilers-discussion.10903/post-1084961
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Only way is to fight Kaido alone, they were doing pretty good until BM kept jumping in. Pretty sure they can take on Kybrid if she's out of the pic.
Possible theory is another one of BP pirates got off the ship before Marco kicked it and is searching for Kaidos Red Poneglyph. Once they have it, they'll call BM and she'll dip with her crew.
Possible theory is another one of BP pirates got off the ship before Marco kicked it and is searching for Kaidos Red Poneglyph. Once they have it, they'll call BM and she'll dip with her crew.
Realistically they should be in their 40s and be much stronger but it’s a Shonen and of course 2 years of training + one week of training is enough to beat a legend like Kaido 
now to answer the question, first I think a sixth person will also come to the roof (probably Yamato) and will help them. Luffy and Zoro will be the key to defeat him and I think Odas solution was really Luffy mastering ryou and Zoro mastering Enma. Maybe Big Mom will also snitch on Kaido and this will play a big role regarding his defeat.
now to answer the question, first I think a sixth person will also come to the roof (probably Yamato) and will help them. Luffy and Zoro will be the key to defeat him and I think Odas solution was really Luffy mastering ryou and Zoro mastering Enma. Maybe Big Mom will also snitch on Kaido and this will play a big role regarding his defeat.
Bruh The Question in This Thread Remind me of the confusion of Fans of DBS that always descussed until it became kinda Toxic How to Beat/Kill Moro when he fused with Earth with the stake if you blow/kill moro with your power Earth and the whole Universe is destroyed. AND You know what the Answer to this just Simple..... Toriyama being Toriyama Thats it.:cheers:
I don't think big mom is going to be defeated. She will either betray kaido or leave or something
His usage of Enma has been progressing with the fight:
While Zoro has essentially tamed Enma, he hasn't fully adapted to it and appears to have been drawing more power from it has the fight progressed.
In Chapter 1001 he didn't use any haki at all in Rengoku Oni Giri:
After his attack, Zoro commented that he needed to unleash the sword a bit more:
He does make some progress. In Chapter 1002 he uses overflowing hardening with an Ittoryu technique:
In Chapter 1003 he finally uses hardening on all 3 swords, but only overflows it through Enma:
Maybe when next the fight resumes, Zoro will overflow his hardening through all three swords?
In Chapter 1001 he didn't use any haki at all in Rengoku Oni Giri:
Maybe when next the fight resumes, Zoro will overflow his hardening through all three swords?
This fight on the rooftop? Unless Big Mom gets taken out of the equation, they can't, and even then the chances of Kaido losing right now is slim. Kaido is a mythical Zoan, pretty much 100 percent going to be awakened, and has insane regenerative abilities,. There is no way that's not going to come into play at least once before Wano's end.
My guess is that at least Luffy and Zoro will get major powerups, Luffy will probably pull out Gear 5 and Zoro will pull out Asura or some other new form and they'll beat Kaido because of that. It's also possible the other SNs will get new powerups too.
About Big Mom i believe that she will freak out and try to escape wano after she sees Kaido getting beaten and she either will be dealt with in the next arc or by someone else who comes across her while she is trying to make her escape (possibly the new Marine weapons or an Admiral)
About Big Mom i believe that she will freak out and try to escape wano after she sees Kaido getting beaten and she either will be dealt with in the next arc or by someone else who comes across her while she is trying to make her escape (possibly the new Marine weapons or an Admiral)