Questions & Mysteries How Jimbei has fallen....

#63
Jinbe is still good he's just taken the back seat for rn. He fighting wsw and his entire crew alone which is a solid feat. Wsw was the 1 most people thought could potential challenge the calamities so it's not like jinbe is fighting some fodder. On top of this I doubt jinbe's fight ends with wsw imo I think he's the 1 who's gonna finish off jack after wsw. It's the op fandom that expects every strong character to fodderlize people weaker than them. Flip the script if it was wsw alone vs jinbe and the sun pirates the fight would probably be over RN. The fact wsw can't beat jinbe despite having a crew with him shows jinbe is stronger than the guy. Also wsw may be shown to be someone strong anyway , the guy is a mystery.
 
#64
As long as Jinbei will have better feats than Sanji, he's going to be ahead. That's not to say he won't get back his 3rd position when he powers up and defeat Queen, or if the fight turn out like Luffy, Law vs Doflamingo. Until then, just like Franky Jinbei deserves his hype as third current strongest on the crew. Jinbei's main fight might not even be Whoswho.

Plus every Sanji fans want to believe that Queen is equal to King, because they both talked down to Jack. Keep in mind that Jack was 8 years old when Queen and King were already major officers on Kaido's crew 20 years ago. I'm of the mind, YC2 and YC3 are on similar level and YC1 is a tier stronger.
 
#65
Jimbe’s a beast. He upgraded his position in the world when he went from ex-warlord to helmsmen of the future pirate king. I still think he deserved to fight Jack, but I think WW is still a good fight. I see WW as the Snack of Kaido’s crew, an unofficial semi-YC4. Sure it looks like Oda’s decided to stick with the M3 even after his addition but in the last two arcs Jimbe’s proven himself to be invaluable. He’s a rock solid anchor among a crew of headcases. Easily can be argued that he’s the most reliable person on the ship. He’s not going to get himself caught in a woman trap, he’s not going to get himself lost, and he’s not going to be doing any of the stupid things Luffy gets up to. M3 may have more upside but Jimbe isn’t going to get himself out of position. You’ll always be able to count on him in any situation.

He hasn’t fallen anywhere. He’s doing pretty well for himself.
 
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#68
Maybe you should reread fishman island...
Dude yo do not want to understan. I am not saying Jimbeis role is not important. Jimbei did not make nothing.
Oda started bullshit about fish men from a certain point.

You can give role a fishman. But What Oda did do. Since Impel Down to Marine Fort to Fishman Island to WCI to Wano , we had to read Jimbei so many times . Dude ı am bored bored bored. any strew hat member dıd not get any role since impel down. this is bullshit.

If you've written so much, why match Jimbei with someone weaker than Sanji? Meaningless.

Jimbei said that I will leave BM crew. That means fishman ısland rebel to BM. Why Jimbei go and protect fishman ısland this is question 1 because he caused.
Question two why dont one yonko BM punish rebellian ısland.d

All of them is meaningless. To conclude, ı cannot see any reason for Jimbei to join crew
 
#69
make a Jimbe respect post as well... rather than stating that he's weaker than sanji for such and such reason with factual deduction it almost seems like you're insulting him..

don't follow nitwits here downplaying each character by insulting then... use logical analysis
This is what I have an issue with certain Sanji fans. Its those toxic few like King Of Lightning who exaggerately downplay everyone including Strawhats to make Sanji ought to be the main protag and strongest in the verse. Literally disrespecting a beloved character and Strawhat in Jinbei. Whats wrong with ya'll
 
#72
Dude yo do not want to understan. I am not saying Jimbeis role is not important. Jimbei did not make nothing.
Oda started bullshit about fish men from a certain point.

You can give role a fishman. But What Oda did do. Since Impel Down to Marine Fort to Fishman Island to WCI to Wano , we had to read Jimbei so many times . Dude ı am bored bored bored. any strew hat member dıd not get any role since impel down. this is bullshit.

If you've written so much, why match Jimbei with someone weaker than Sanji? Meaningless.

Jimbei said that I will leave BM crew. That means fishman ısland rebel to BM. Why Jimbei go and protect fishman ısland this is question 1 because he caused.
Question two why dont one yonko BM punish rebellian ısland.d

All of them is meaningless. To conclude, ı cannot see any reason for Jimbei to join crew
You're jumping to conclusions, WhosWho wanted to challenge a Calamity, pure speculation but what if WhosWho want to fight King and has history with him. What's to say that Sanji can solo Queen? Those might not even be the final matchups if the raid fails. WhosWho could even switch sides. You're taking things too much at face value.

Jinbei offered a deal to Big Mom, to promise to not harm anyone but him and Big Mom accepted the deal. So there's nothing there, the one she's angered at is Strawhat that's why she's in Wano.

His mission is to attain true freedom for the Fishman race and he thinks he can achieve that with Luffy because he believes he can become the Pirate King. The Pirate King is the freest person in the world, plus Luffy will eventually challenge the World Government. Jinbei is the ambassador of his people to bridge the gap between Fishman and Human. Only Jinbei can accomplish that, that's why he made Luffy be the hero of Fishman Island to break the cycle of fear, so on the opposite it has to be a Fishman who's willing to take on the fear of humans by reconstructing the image of the Fishmen in the world and it's starting with the notorious criminal fishmen pirates on the seas such as Jack, building a good name for himself and his people. He's come from a long way, carrying a lot on his shoulders, the will of Fisher Tiger and Otohime. It will be a hard path for him to face the discrimination of the world. People fear what they don't know..





Oh that, and because Queen is shown side-by-side with King on multiple occasions, and because Queen and King share a rivalry that none of the other Beast Pirates have.
We seen them bicker many times, but they never fought each other. Being seen side by side is a moot point to claim that they are evenly powerful.
 
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#73
You're jumping to conclusions, WhosWho wanted to challenge a Calamity, pure speculation but what if WhosWho want to fight King and has history with him. What's to say that Sanji can solo Queen? Those might not even be the final matchups if the raid fails. WhosWho could even switch sides. You're taking things too much at face value.
Yes, but obviously we know based off of feats and ranking in the Beast Pirates that Who's Who isn't strong enough to compete with King or Queen. Until proven otherwise he is just an upstart that has a long way to go before he reaches All-Star position.
 
#74
Yes, but obviously we know based off of feats and ranking in the Beast Pirates that Who's Who isn't strong enough to compete with King or Queen. Until proven otherwise he is just an upstart that has a long way to go before he reaches All-Star position.
He's probably not strong enough but what if Zoro & WhosWho vs King? WhosWho a vanquished Captain of new world like Crocodile or something, he's not an upstart.
 
#76
From former warlord like mihawk, very strong, pushing sanji out of M3, now he is fighting flying 6, while sanji vs queen. jimbei doesn't even get fellow fishman jack, he gets someone inferior to jack while sanji gets someone superior to jack.

:josad::josad::josad::josad:
nothing against jimbei, but jimbei>sanji posts have been many and dumb.

yamato will also join crew, jimbei top 5
Jimbei is still relatively strong. I think at the start Wano he was above Sanji and probably equal to Zoro. The duo though are pushing themselves by fighting enemies out of their tier. To be fare I don't think Jinbei will struggle vs Who's Who. It will be a prolonged fight where Jinbei ends up a mid diffing him mainly because he is a nice guy and kinda lacks the killer instinct of Zoro and ferocity of Sanji while in fights.
 
#77
You're jumping to conclusions, WhosWho wanted to challenge a Calamity, pure speculation but what if WhosWho want to fight King and has history with him. What's to say that Sanji can solo Queen? Those might not even be the final matchups if the raid fails. WhosWho could even switch sides. You're taking things too much at face value.

Jinbei offered a deal to Big Mom, to promise to not harm anyone but him and Big Mom accepted the deal. So there's nothing there, the one she's angered at is Strawhat that's why she's in Wano.

His mission is to attain true freedom for the Fishman race and he thinks he can achieve that with Luffy because he believes he can become the Pirate King. The Pirate King is the freest person in the world, plus Luffy will eventually challenge the World Government. Jinbei is the ambassador of his people to bridge the gap between Fishman and Human. Only Jinbei can accomplish that, that's why he made Luffy be the hero of Fishman Island to break the cycle of fear, so on the opposite it has to be a Fishman who's willing to take on the fear of humans by reconstructing the image of the Fishmen in the world and it's starting with the notorious criminal fishmen pirates on the seas such as Jack, building a good name for himself and his people. He's come from a long way, carrying a lot on his shoulders, the will of Fisher Tiger and Otohime. It will be a hard path for him to face the discrimination of the world. People fear what they don't know..







We seen them bicker many times, but they never fought each other. Being seen side by side is a moot point to claim that they are evenly powerful.
you always mention about fishman issue on the world. That is okay. I am not saying anythin about that. you are totally right.
But you missed something.

One one island rebel their yonko. Conclusion is simple. Punishment. Even if BM follow Luffy, big mom have lots of army and general to punish that island. Why are they being punished ? Because Jimbei broke his wordls against BM. At least, ı expect Luffy you sohuld go and ı must take care of fish island from BM.

To expand Wano war, Oda used tricky point.
First one is to bring New Generation to Wano.
Second one is because of the all new generation is there , if BM dıd not come Wano, strew hat members cannot matchup anyone in there.

İf we loking for connection, Bartolomeo is the best one . During the arc, he helped a lot . why did he joined crew ?

Jimbei is 46 years old and old generation people .
Everybody said that Marco is old generation wont take any main fight. Dude , what the thell is jimbei doing there. what heel are he doing crew. No basement. why gave blood why fishman will be free.

İf Jimbei did not join crew and luffy become king pirates, what luffy say . ı dont have fishman crew and ı shouldnt give any right to fishman people. In the reverie we have already seen that fishman society found importan place.

You should accept that is one of the Odas bad writing.
 
#80
Ain't nothing wrong with Jimbei facing Who's Who. He's the best he could've gotten, aside from Jack. Sanji has his place on the crew to face the enemy's number 3 (Queen) and Jimbei has been given his (facing Who's Who). Jimbei still has impressive feats but it's being made clear that those don't automatically guarantee a win against every possible opponent, especially if he's not around water.
 
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