How strong is Morel ? Compared to Zodiac and Phantom Troupe ?
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Morel is a strong hunter, probably one of the best of the best since he was one of the two chosen to accompany Netero in NGL. Why he wasn't a Zodiac then? I think it was probably because his relationship with Netero was much more of a "master and pupil" than an actual "sparring partner" thing (which is what the Zodiacs were to Netero). Considering this, I'd rate him at 80~85, at Kanzai's level (not the strongest Zodiac, but possibly one of the strongest)... I guess that should be more or less around mid-to-top PT (probably around Feitan, Phinks, Nobunaga, et al.).
His feats are indeed impressive for an "80~85" IMO... he surely could be higher, but we must take into consideration that he was probably an overachiever, since he had a "while I'm still standing, I'm still at it" approach in nen battles.
His feats are indeed impressive for an "80~85" IMO... he surely could be higher, but we must take into consideration that he was probably an overachiever, since he had a "while I'm still standing, I'm still at it" approach in nen battles.
Morel is stronger than everyone in the troupe barring Chrollo and mayyybe Feitan. Would place him above PT version of Hisoka.
Just for reference, Knuckle was billed around Kite's lvl iirc. Kite himself would be upper end PT. Morel was fighting with like 30% of his total nen during the palace raid too no? That's insane.
Your poll sucks ass btw.
Just for reference, Knuckle was billed around Kite's lvl iirc. Kite himself would be upper end PT. Morel was fighting with like 30% of his total nen during the palace raid too no? That's insane.
Your poll sucks ass btw.
Hisoka fans wouldn't like this
If Morel is above Hisoka, then how strong are Razor and Biscuit to you?
If you're asking who I rate higher between Hisoka or Razor, it's Razor.
Stronger than all PT members except
Illumi,Hisoka,Chrollo
Phinks and Feitan are Knuckle and Shoot victims.
Illumi,Hisoka,Chrollo
Phinks and Feitan are Knuckle and Shoot victims.
Based on Hisoka who used himself(100)as the baseline to measure, this was his Ranking for the zodiacs:
- Kanzai - 85
- Ginta - 90
- Piyon - 77
- Ilumi - 95
Illumi would stomp any PT lvl character who is named Chrollo. And Ginta is close to Hisoka and Illumi lvl and he is not even the strongest one.
The strongest one are Gin and Botobai who are even stronger than Hisoka most likely.
Yet Netero doesn't asked them to help him against the Royal Guards and Meruem. Because he needed his strongest special members. Is Morel stronger than them? Nope but he is easily on similar lvl(I would say something between 75-85points based on Hisoka ranking). And I place the spiders except 70....
Netero didn't call the zodiac because he know they would get killed by the Royal Guard. There was no point to let them die. Because that he took hunters without big function to that suicide Mission. In fact Netero didn't even believe that Morel and co would survive against the Royal guards.
What Morel did was insane.
Feitan would get one shoted by any Royal guard. Hell even Chrollo or Hisoka would get his ass beaten by any Royal guard.
It is a simple fact and statement that of all 4 characters(Meruem,Pitou,Pouf and Youpi) only Pitou got killed actually in a real battle while the others been just to strong to get killed. In fact Netero was stated to be even above Zeno and not even close.
And Meruem defeated Netero around mid-high diff and the Royal guards are on similar lvl, maybe also on Netero lvl...
Morel did a incredible job, put any seiner or zodiac in his Position and they would not survive that arc...
@RayanOO Who do you think wins between uvogin and morel? Do you think uvogin simply overpowers morel or morel with his abilities beat uvogin?
I do not know why people rank feitan on same level or similar to phinks. Phinks even though an enhancer needed his hatsu to beat zazan's henchman who seemed trash and even then it takes time for his roll to get stronger with time.
Feitan while rusty was still keeping up with transformed zazan and could take damage from her + pain packer which negged zazan.
That pain packer was on weaker side meaning before feitan can take much more damage than what zazan inflicted.
No way is the clown phinks close to feitan.
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I do not know why people rank feitan on same level or similar to phinks. Phinks even though an enhancer needed his hatsu to beat zazan's henchman who seemed trash and even then it takes time for his roll to get stronger with time.
Feitan while rusty was still keeping up with transformed zazan and could take damage from her + pain packer which negged zazan.
That pain packer was on weaker side meaning before feitan can take much more damage than what zazan inflicted.
No way is the clown phinks close to feitan.
You can believe that Feitan is stronger than Phinks no problem
But yeah they are indeed close or same level
and the main reason is portrayal :
- every time Feitan and Phinks are portrayed side by side like a dynamic duo : during yorknew especially at the end, during the chimera fight and even now in the current arc where Feitan and Phinks are together in the whale
- Phinks is often the spokesperson in the PT and the front guy. For exemple during the chimera fight where Phinks was at the front, the one commenting Feitan fight, the one talking to the ant slaves etc. Same with Razor, it was Phinks who did the talking and « taking command » etc.
- Phinks is also ranked second in arm strength in the PT
- Phinks was the second quickest PT who finished his fight during the ant fight and the next in line after Feitan
So yeah PT wise Phinks is up there
But yeah they are indeed close or same level
and the main reason is portrayal :
- every time Feitan and Phinks are portrayed side by side like a dynamic duo : during yorknew especially at the end, during the chimera fight and even now in the current arc where Feitan and Phinks are together in the whale
- Phinks is often the spokesperson in the PT and the front guy. For exemple during the chimera fight where Phinks was at the front, the one commenting Feitan fight, the one talking to the ant slaves etc. Same with Razor, it was Phinks who did the talking and « taking command » etc.
- Phinks is also ranked second in arm strength in the PT
- Phinks was the second quickest PT who finished his fight during the ant fight and the next in line after Feitan
So yeah PT wise Phinks is up there