Future Events How would you feel if Oda makes the threat real?
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what would nami and ussop do when they can't even stall ulti without pis
fanky- does not have his robot
robin, jimbe and brook- they hit weaker than g4 kuri luffy
zoro- is unconscious.
if oda wants to embarrass luffy again and let him get help from the strawhats, then why did he make luffy lose when he just unlocked advcoc, he should have just let luffy use advcoc very well and make him lose once so the sh can help him.
fanky- does not have his robot
robin, jimbe and brook- they hit weaker than g4 kuri luffy
zoro- is unconscious.
if oda wants to embarrass luffy again and let him get help from the strawhats, then why did he make luffy lose when he just unlocked advcoc, he should have just let luffy use advcoc very well and make him lose once so the sh can help him.
Exactly, it's practically impossible for Zoro to go to the dome and fight Kaido these moment. The victory against Kaido will be carried out by Luffy, only, I don't know why Zoro fans are thinking that Zoro will "steal the victory" from Luffy.
The only way for Zoro to do anything against Kaido would be if there was an execution, but that would only happen after Kaido was defeated by Luffy. The fact is that Luffy is the main character, and Kaido is the main villain of the arc, both are fighting in a x1, it is impossible for the author to make another beat Kaido.
The only way for Zoro to do anything against Kaido would be if there was an execution, but that would only happen after Kaido was defeated by Luffy. The fact is that Luffy is the main character, and Kaido is the main villain of the arc, both are fighting in a x1, it is impossible for the author to make another beat Kaido.
Sanji can hurt kaido is the biggest joke
Just because sanji beat queen doesn't mean he can hurt kaido,Even monster point chopper
Did damage to queen.
Only Luffy and zoro can hurt kaido
Current zoro one shot kaido(zoro beat more durable character than kaido)
Execution time
What a joke
Kaido can heal if you let him rest(he's been fighting people nonstop that's why Luffy can 1 on 1 him)
Another Mink medicine+Marco's help will definitely heal zoro(zoro will face 4~6 times pain after that)
Zoro one shot kaido(kaido is weakened by now)
Z.K.K STILL 100% HAPPENING
Just because sanji beat queen doesn't mean he can hurt kaido,Even monster point chopper
Did damage to queen.
Only Luffy and zoro can hurt kaido
Current zoro one shot kaido(zoro beat more durable character than kaido)
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Execution time
What a joke
Kaido can heal if you let him rest(he's been fighting people nonstop that's why Luffy can 1 on 1 him)
Another Mink medicine+Marco's help will definitely heal zoro(zoro will face 4~6 times pain after that)
Zoro one shot kaido(kaido is weakened by now)
Z.K.K STILL 100% HAPPENING
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The point of having Luffy in this raid, if he loses, is still significant - wearing Kaido down.
Doesnt matter that he cannot beat Kaido by himself, if others allow him to keep coming back, the mountain will be worn down by rain.
He will get the credit for taking down Kaido either way, if he does it himself or if Zoro does it for him.
There really isnt anything here for Luffy to achieve. He has already proven that he can keep Kaido busy, for some time.
He proves nothing here even if he wins this round, nobody will get a bright idea to say that he surpassed Kaido.
I really dont know what payoff Oda has thought of here but I dont see it.
You make it sound a lot better than it is...
There is no point in dancing with Kaido, it accomplishes nothing.
Kaido needs to die and only one man fits that job.
Anyway, I am interested specifically in how Luffy and Kaido would end if he either loses or wins.
I know a lot of people who walked themselves into a corner thinking that things are impossible...
Anti-Zolobros are a good example of people who think that Zoro doing X, Y or Z is impossible...
There are in-story, already revealed solutions for how Zoro can back to fighting in an even stronger state, far from impossible.
Doesnt mean he needs to do that to kill Kaido but again, we are going off towards ZKK instead of focusing on Luffy vs Kaido. I understand that many want Luffy to win this because he hasnt done anything meaningful in the 4 years long arc but Oda has hinted at things going different way a long time ago. It is pretty disappointing way for WSC to be simply worn down, even Meme went out with a bang.
Doesnt matter that he cannot beat Kaido by himself, if others allow him to keep coming back, the mountain will be worn down by rain.
He will get the credit for taking down Kaido either way, if he does it himself or if Zoro does it for him.
There really isnt anything here for Luffy to achieve. He has already proven that he can keep Kaido busy, for some time.
He proves nothing here even if he wins this round, nobody will get a bright idea to say that he surpassed Kaido.
I really dont know what payoff Oda has thought of here but I dont see it.
You make it sound a lot better than it is...
There is no point in dancing with Kaido, it accomplishes nothing.
Kaido needs to die and only one man fits that job.
Anyway, I am interested specifically in how Luffy and Kaido would end if he either loses or wins.
I know a lot of people who walked themselves into a corner thinking that things are impossible...
Anti-Zolobros are a good example of people who think that Zoro doing X, Y or Z is impossible...
There are in-story, already revealed solutions for how Zoro can back to fighting in an even stronger state, far from impossible.
Doesnt mean he needs to do that to kill Kaido but again, we are going off towards ZKK instead of focusing on Luffy vs Kaido. I understand that many want Luffy to win this because he hasnt done anything meaningful in the 4 years long arc but Oda has hinted at things going different way a long time ago. It is pretty disappointing way for WSC to be simply worn down, even Meme went out with a bang.
The point of having Luffy in this raid, if he loses, is still significant - wearing Kaido down.
Doesnt matter that he cannot beat Kaido by himself, if others allow him to keep coming back, the mountain will be worn down by rain.
He will get the credit for taking down Kaido either way, if he does it himself or if Zoro does it for him.
There really isnt anything here for Luffy to achieve. He has already proven that he can keep Kaido busy, for some time.
He proves nothing here even if he wins this round, nobody will get a bright idea to say that he surpassed Kaido.
I really dont know what payoff Oda has thought of here but I dont see it.
You make it sound a lot better than it is...
There is no point in dancing with Kaido, it accomplishes nothing.
Kaido needs to die and only one man fits that job.
Anyway, I am interested specifically in how Luffy and Kaido would end if he either loses or wins.
I know a lot of people who walked themselves into a corner thinking that things are impossible...
Anti-Zolobros are a good example of people who think that Zoro doing X, Y or Z is impossible...
There are in-story, already revealed solutions for how Zoro can back to fighting in an even stronger state, far from impossible.
Doesnt mean he needs to do that to kill Kaido but again, we are going off towards ZKK instead of focusing on Luffy vs Kaido. I understand that many want Luffy to win this because he hasnt done anything meaningful in the 4 years long arc but Oda has hinted at things going different way a long time ago. It is pretty disappointing way for WSC to be simply worn down, even Meme went out with a bang.
Doesnt matter that he cannot beat Kaido by himself, if others allow him to keep coming back, the mountain will be worn down by rain.
He will get the credit for taking down Kaido either way, if he does it himself or if Zoro does it for him.
There really isnt anything here for Luffy to achieve. He has already proven that he can keep Kaido busy, for some time.
He proves nothing here even if he wins this round, nobody will get a bright idea to say that he surpassed Kaido.
I really dont know what payoff Oda has thought of here but I dont see it.
You make it sound a lot better than it is...
There is no point in dancing with Kaido, it accomplishes nothing.
Kaido needs to die and only one man fits that job.
Anyway, I am interested specifically in how Luffy and Kaido would end if he either loses or wins.
I know a lot of people who walked themselves into a corner thinking that things are impossible...
Anti-Zolobros are a good example of people who think that Zoro doing X, Y or Z is impossible...
There are in-story, already revealed solutions for how Zoro can back to fighting in an even stronger state, far from impossible.
Doesnt mean he needs to do that to kill Kaido but again, we are going off towards ZKK instead of focusing on Luffy vs Kaido. I understand that many want Luffy to win this because he hasnt done anything meaningful in the 4 years long arc but Oda has hinted at things going different way a long time ago. It is pretty disappointing way for WSC to be simply worn down, even Meme went out with a bang.
It's not about surpassing Kaido. Even if he wins against Kaido in this round most of the people will say that he didn't surpass Kaido because Kaido was weakened more than Luffy (the difference is not that big between the 2 at the start of that round imo but that's another debate) .
My issue is with his talk, he would have been trash talking all along the fight without doing shit.
It would sound too much like Kidd and I hated when Kidd did that to see him finally riding on Luffy's hype, to stay polite because he was riding something else
My issue is with his talk, he would have been trash talking all along the fight without doing shit.
It would sound too much like Kidd and I hated when Kidd did that to see him finally riding on Luffy's hype, to stay polite because he was riding something else
The binge reading comment is always funny to me because it's basically admitting that One Piece is better if you don't really think about what it is you're reading.
"You wouldn't notice these flaws of you didn't think so hard about what it is your reading".
Binge reading doesn't fix onigashima and his is been written.
Hell, Zoro and Sanji's fights appeared "better" to some because someone had to shuffle through multiple chapters, collect and sort out the panels for everyone to see.
If he treated every fight like roof piece ( even with just 2-3 chapters a fight back to back to back ) that would've been better.
Onigashima alone is longer than WCI, yet majority of everything was skipped over.
"You wouldn't notice these flaws of you didn't think so hard about what it is your reading".
Binge reading doesn't fix onigashima and his is been written.
Hell, Zoro and Sanji's fights appeared "better" to some because someone had to shuffle through multiple chapters, collect and sort out the panels for everyone to see.
If he treated every fight like roof piece ( even with just 2-3 chapters a fight back to back to back ) that would've been better.
Onigashima alone is longer than WCI, yet majority of everything was skipped over.
Like a lot of things, it comes down to the execution, but I'll admit, the repetition of Luffy losing against Kaido has gotten tiresome, almost a running gag. Instead of a life or death struggle, it feels like Luffy is playing a game and has unlimited retries.
I think the right way to go about is to have Kaido assume he's won, rather than actually have him win. Perhaps but a moment where he uses his victory cry after thinking he killed Luffy. That's the main reason he never used it before. To Kaido, a total victory is killing his enemy, like the Samurai he admires.
I think the right way to go about is to have Kaido assume he's won, rather than actually have him win. Perhaps but a moment where he uses his victory cry after thinking he killed Luffy. That's the main reason he never used it before. To Kaido, a total victory is killing his enemy, like the Samurai he admires.