General & Others How would you make Zoro a better character?
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-Killed the magistrate who was the crossroads killer killing many innocent people
-Protected Tsuru from Beast Pirates
-Protected Tama and fended off Hawkins
-Helped Luffy deliver food to Okobore town
-Saved Yasu from the Kyoshiro family
-Saved the daughters of Yasu and Oden from Killer
-Saved them both again in the Flower capital
-Nearly killed one of the central antagonists of the arc
-Fended off the Oniwaban
-Helped retrieve weapons for the Alliance
-Trained the last several days before the raid
This isn't even mentioning the storylines that have been established for him. All of this was just from the set up phase of Wano. Saying Zoro has barely done anything this arc, which is far from over, is quite simply wrong.
-Protected Tsuru from Beast Pirates
-Protected Tama and fended off Hawkins
-Helped Luffy deliver food to Okobore town
-Saved Yasu from the Kyoshiro family
-Saved the daughters of Yasu and Oden from Killer
-Saved them both again in the Flower capital
-Nearly killed one of the central antagonists of the arc
-Fended off the Oniwaban
-Helped retrieve weapons for the Alliance
-Trained the last several days before the raid
This isn't even mentioning the storylines that have been established for him. All of this was just from the set up phase of Wano. Saying Zoro has barely done anything this arc, which is far from over, is quite simply wrong.
You need the entire chapter of it? Wait for anime then.
The only forced thing is their meeting, which was a pure luck (like Sanji meeting Viola, or Luffy meeting Rebecca, Shirahoshi), other is okay.
And?
Bond of hate, heard about it?
Never they tried to kill each other + their plotline is clearly not finished yet.
The only forced thing is their meeting, which was a pure luck (like Sanji meeting Viola, or Luffy meeting Rebecca, Shirahoshi), other is okay.
And?
Bond of hate, heard about it?
Never they tried to kill each other + their plotline is clearly not finished yet.
Her entire interest in him is forced. He gives her no kindness and no compassion. He doesnt show any emotions towards him....yet she still wants him. Its either forced or she truly is horny number 1 prostitue.
When you bring up Zoro and the people of Wano. Im assuming a special bond that he has with the people. In this case this would only matter if Toko bonded Zoro. Which she didnt. She bonded with the Wanohats + Sanji.
Anyways do you really call tryna kill each other a bond.
Again the only exclusive bond Zoro has is with Hiyori. It couldve been Yasu but hes long dead.
When you bring up Zoro and the people of Wano. Im assuming a special bond that he has with the people. In this case this would only matter if Toko bonded Zoro. Which she didnt. She bonded with the Wanohats + Sanji.
Anyways do you really call tryna kill each other a bond.
Again the only exclusive bond Zoro has is with Hiyori. It couldve been Yasu but hes long dead.
Hiyori and Yasu predominately. But also Toko, Momo, Gyukimaru, Kawamatsu, the people of Ebisu Town, Kyoshiro, Orochi. Act Two for Zoro was all about his interactions with these people, which has culminated in him getting the sword of the rightful lord of Wano and swearing vengeance on his usurper.
Kind of important stuff. More so than Zoro... helping Franky and Ussop build ships? Going to the baths with Nami and Robin? Having argument number 537 with Sanji? Whatever you guys seem to think he'd accomplish by being with the Strawhats instead
Kind of important stuff. More so than Zoro... helping Franky and Ussop build ships? Going to the baths with Nami and Robin? Having argument number 537 with Sanji? Whatever you guys seem to think he'd accomplish by being with the Strawhats instead
I wouldnt change a thing. I love him just the way he is.
- Saved her from Killer just for food and booze;
- Accompanied her to Yasui's execution, tough she didn't ask for it;
- Saved O-Toko and her from Oniwabanshu;
- Protected her from Oniwabanshu again;
- Himself said that he will be protecting her or otherwise he couldn't watch to Momonosuke's eyes;
- Agreed to exchange Shusui for Enma (could refuse easily)
"No kindness, no compassion"
What emotions you want him to show her?
She yet to love him, it's just a high admiration or crush, nothing more for now. + Oda rushing manga recently, so anime could make some fillers (Zoro and Yasui for example), I bet there will be some scenes with her and O-Toko too.
By bond i meant bond. Yes, his "special" bond is only Yasui, Hiyori and Orochi, but do you wanna tell they don't have any?
Well, Natuto have bond with Sasuke, no matter how much they tried to kill each other. I expect them (Zoro and Gyukimaru) to meet at Ryuma's grave.
- Accompanied her to Yasui's execution, tough she didn't ask for it;
- Saved O-Toko and her from Oniwabanshu;
- Protected her from Oniwabanshu again;
- Himself said that he will be protecting her or otherwise he couldn't watch to Momonosuke's eyes;
- Agreed to exchange Shusui for Enma (could refuse easily)
"No kindness, no compassion"
What emotions you want him to show her?
She yet to love him, it's just a high admiration or crush, nothing more for now. + Oda rushing manga recently, so anime could make some fillers (Zoro and Yasui for example), I bet there will be some scenes with her and O-Toko too.
By bond i meant bond. Yes, his "special" bond is only Yasui, Hiyori and Orochi, but do you wanna tell they don't have any?
Well, Natuto have bond with Sasuke, no matter how much they tried to kill each other. I expect them (Zoro and Gyukimaru) to meet at Ryuma's grave.
Yasu is dead...there is no longer a relationship to develop anymore
Toko and Momo have ties with other SHs, not really intergral to Zoro. He barely has anything with the people of Ebisu. He left them after 3 pages. And Kyoushiro and Orochi are his enemies. Unless you are talking about a villain like bond. Kawamatsu also has nothing with Zoro.
Hiyori is the only exclusive bond Zoro has currently. And Gyukimaru is a potential bond. We dont know where the plot will go tbh. Zoro left him have Shisui afterall.
Not really he could bring girlfriend Hiyori along to help instead of just wandering around with her.
Literally everything is expected of Zoro because he has the power to do so. He is above her in strength...what kind of person would let her get hurt. All she can grasp from all of this that he is a good person.
When I say kindness and compassoon I mean Luffy protecting Hancock's secret after all she did to him or Sanji giving Puddong the love and support she never got.
These are justifiable for crush/admiration to occur to a person's character as thats how they are behaving towards you. Not them always saving your weak ass.
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Now im just saying your damage control expert after looking through the thread. Protecting Zoro from every and all criticism..no matter how small it is lmao.
Toko and Momo have ties with other SHs, not really intergral to Zoro. He barely has anything with the people of Ebisu. He left them after 3 pages. And Kyoushiro and Orochi are his enemies. Unless you are talking about a villain like bond. Kawamatsu also has nothing with Zoro.
Hiyori is the only exclusive bond Zoro has currently. And Gyukimaru is a potential bond. We dont know where the plot will go tbh. Zoro left him have Shisui afterall.
Not really he could bring girlfriend Hiyori along to help instead of just wandering around with her.
Literally everything is expected of Zoro because he has the power to do so. He is above her in strength...what kind of person would let her get hurt. All she can grasp from all of this that he is a good person.
When I say kindness and compassoon I mean Luffy protecting Hancock's secret after all she did to him or Sanji giving Puddong the love and support she never got.
These are justifiable for crush/admiration to occur to a person's character as thats how they are behaving towards you. Not them always saving your weak ass.
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Now im just saying your damage control expert after looking through the thread. Protecting Zoro from every and all criticism..no matter how small it is lmao.
I'm starting to think this is the main thing with all these guys, they are just ZoSan shippers.
It's like every single time Zoro does something that doesn't involve Sanji (which is everything outside of tired gags) they are up in arms that Zoro doesnt pay attention to Sanji and so Zoro is just a bad guy who's cold to everyone and doesn't contribute (to the ZoSan material). Like seriously if you try and distill all these arguments they all end up here meaning it's just yaoi shippers that are butthurt
It's like every single time Zoro does something that doesn't involve Sanji (which is everything outside of tired gags) they are up in arms that Zoro doesnt pay attention to Sanji and so Zoro is just a bad guy who's cold to everyone and doesn't contribute (to the ZoSan material). Like seriously if you try and distill all these arguments they all end up here meaning it's just yaoi shippers that are butthurt
So you're saying nothing then? Why tag me though? If you are saying nothing then tell it to whoever cares about the nothing you say. You think I want to know about your nothing that much that it requires me to be tagged into your comments?
Honestly let's get into this for a bit. What exactly do you want me to do now? You tagged me into nothing for the express reason that I'm expected to comment on nothing. Do you want me create something to talk about from nothing? Do you want me to point out the nothing you are saying? Did you want me to not realise you are saying nothing and play along?
I'm genuinely curious now what exactly you wanted from tagging me here? Your nothing point would have remained nothing if you just typed my name and not actually tagged me right? But for some reason you specifically want me to be a part of your nothing? Why?
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Oh you don't remember the full page of arguments about the "rivalry" gag? Okay. I guess Sanji doesn't matter here.
Hehehehe... I give it two pages until Zoro ignoring Sanji comes back
Honestly let's get into this for a bit. What exactly do you want me to do now? You tagged me into nothing for the express reason that I'm expected to comment on nothing. Do you want me create something to talk about from nothing? Do you want me to point out the nothing you are saying? Did you want me to not realise you are saying nothing and play along?
I'm genuinely curious now what exactly you wanted from tagging me here? Your nothing point would have remained nothing if you just typed my name and not actually tagged me right? But for some reason you specifically want me to be a part of your nothing? Why?
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Oh you don't remember the full page of arguments about the "rivalry" gag? Okay. I guess Sanji doesn't matter here.
Hehehehe... I give it two pages until Zoro ignoring Sanji comes back
