General & Others If Jinbe and Yamato won't be Monsters or Wings to Luffy, then what would they be to him?
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Jimbei and sanji are not a duo lmao, just accept it
Even Franky are chopper are grouped together more than these two
There isn't gonna be a YC 3 in the crew simply because
1)luffy is gonna be pirate king, he isn't gonna have a yonko like crew
2) there's a canon term for luffy's "commanders" and it's wings of the pirate king
It's really not complicated, Yamato will get better treatment than jimbei, but she won't be luffy's third commande specially when oda went out of his way to group together zoro and sanji and even clarified the hierchy of the crew in the same arc Yamato was introduced
I don’t think Jinbei and Sanji having a close relationship stops Zoro and Sanji from being wings. I also don’t think Yamato having a close relationship to Luffy stops the monster trio.
Yamato will be to Luffy what Oden was to Roger. Zoro will be his Rayleigh, Sanji will be Scopper. Jinbei will be whoever the 4 strongest guy was.
Yamato will be to Luffy what Oden was to Roger. Zoro will be his Rayleigh, Sanji will be Scopper. Jinbei will be whoever the 4 strongest guy was.
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Yamato is a wild card to me, she's simply too strong for the "mid trio" or anything in between, and considering her young age and the potential to grow further, she's definitely on "monster trio" tier for sure–and she's not going to lag behind Zoro and Sanji in the future either. There's a clear distinction between Jinbe and Yamato: Yamato is young [28 years old], she has adCoC, and she has one of the most powerful DFs in the series. She has so much raw potential for future arcs that I'd even argue that Luffy doesn't have; I mean, obviously Luffy is the MC and he's stronger than Yamato and he has future power ups as well etc. But Luffy is reaching to his peak, unlike Yamato. Disclaimer for Luffy fans: yes, Luffy is always going to be stronger than Yamato, obviously lol. He's the MC after all, ok!!
Yamato has one the top 4 defensive DF abilities in the series, only behind Kaido, Jozu, Cracker and Bartolomeo–and she has yet to awaken it. She also has advanced haki potential as well: she has yet to learn advanced CoA and advanced CoO either. Unlike Jinbe who is in his "mid to late" 40s [he's 46 years old] and doesn't really have much potential for growth, especially considering the fact that he doesn't have CoC, Yamato has ton shit of potential to grow. If she joins the crew, then she's definitely going to be on par with Zoro, Luffy, Sanji; at least on the same tier for sure.
Yamato has one the top 4 defensive DF abilities in the series, only behind Kaido, Jozu, Cracker and Bartolomeo–and she has yet to awaken it. She also has advanced haki potential as well: she has yet to learn advanced CoA and advanced CoO either. Unlike Jinbe who is in his "mid to late" 40s [he's 46 years old] and doesn't really have much potential for growth, especially considering the fact that he doesn't have CoC, Yamato has ton shit of potential to grow. If she joins the crew, then she's definitely going to be on par with Zoro, Luffy, Sanji; at least on the same tier for sure.
Yamat has top DF defensive because Kaido took a Thunder Bagua to broke it meanwhile Luffy is tanking a bunch without nothing? I rather believe she was tanking with ACoC just as Luffy doing now and that attack was too much for her.
Also, potential to growth is very vague and not age related. Crocodile grow a bunch despite being old and being at Impel Down. Plus, Jinbei is a fishmen the rules fore humans doesn't apply to him.
I know Im not trying to take Sanjis position as a wing away. I don’t think that changes no matter who joins. I think people assume that I hate Sanji and want to downplay him because I don’t think he’s as strong as some people do. But I don’t hate him.
I don’t think that the most important thing about Sanji is his strength. What makes Sanji special to Luffy along with his strength is who he is as a person. Just as Zoro was willing to take the pain from Luffy Sanji was to. That makes Sanji more important that any new comer in my opinion. He also has seniority which matters.
I don’t think that the most important thing about Sanji is his strength. What makes Sanji special to Luffy along with his strength is who he is as a person. Just as Zoro was willing to take the pain from Luffy Sanji was to. That makes Sanji more important that any new comer in my opinion. He also has seniority which matters.
Jinbe and Sanji don’t have a close relationship? Oda was pairing Jinbe up with all the straw hats throughout wano because he was new.
Robin and Jinbe
Luffy Zoro and Jinbe
Franky and Zoro and Jinbe
Luffy Sanji and Jinbe
He was new so Oda was putting him into the straw hats and almost none of the straw hats got to actually interact with Jinbe prior to this arc.
It’s clear as Crystal based on who Oda set up the straw hats with how he organizes them:
Captain - Fighting an Emperor
Wings - Fought Calamities
Adults - Fought Tobi Roppo
Weakling trio - No actual fight so far
Jinbe May be the 4th strongest but he’s not comparable to the monster trio like he is the adults
When she was introduced?
She was the right hand of a warlord who beat Luffy.
Her bounty was second highest
She fought and defeated the strongest royal guard in Skypeia
Robin and Jinbe
Luffy Zoro and Jinbe
Franky and Zoro and Jinbe
Luffy Sanji and Jinbe
He was new so Oda was putting him into the straw hats and almost none of the straw hats got to actually interact with Jinbe prior to this arc.
It’s clear as Crystal based on who Oda set up the straw hats with how he organizes them:
Captain - Fighting an Emperor
Wings - Fought Calamities
Adults - Fought Tobi Roppo
Weakling trio - No actual fight so far
Jinbe May be the 4th strongest but he’s not comparable to the monster trio like he is the adults
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When she was introduced?
She was the right hand of a warlord who beat Luffy.
Her bounty was second highest
She fought and defeated the strongest royal guard in Skypeia
How so?
Sanji made even more sacrifices than jimbei
Sanji's flammes are affected by his "passion" ans his flammes happen to be the main reason he's stronger than jimbei
It's really not complicated
Jinbei literally went to Big Mom at the worst possible time and told her he was leaving to join the SH who were raiding her island in her face. With his entire country on the line. He had more at stake than Sanji yet had more faith in Luffy than Sanji did. His will wasn’t broken at any point.