Future Events If Luffy dies eos, wouldn’t Zoro automatically become top 1 of all time?

#24
Well Zoro and Luffy were consistently shown to potentially bear very similar power levels in the overall complexive storyplot.

Starting from Whisky Peak, where they were potentially rather equal, Enies Lobby where although Zoro took the lower opponent, Asura generated the famous one shot despite Zoro was standing in possibly worse conditions, and then again G2 Luffy was most likely not remotely as powerful as Asura and carried its famous drawbacks too. G3 slow in the execution. Asura recently factually shown to most likely increase combat speed too.

Now on Wano Zoro carrying the better feats by a large amount, however Luffy also recently rocking.
 
#25
you literally said luffy is not surpassing ryuma.
lmfao.
why do you think zoro can one-shot top tier but not luffy?
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hate to agree with you, but you might be right on this.
When has Luffy oneshot anyone in or near his tier range? Zoro has shown the capacity to do so and has done so, especially Pre-TS. Luffy's the man who throws a million punches to take down someone relative to him.
 
#32
This usually doesn't happen. Also there is a thing called prime and after it you start to decline training or not. If Luffy will die it will be at his prime or after it and that is the same time Zoro will get to it (just look at WB and Roger). Also it could be that eos Luffy gets some duper uber ability only a scant few have (adv coc or voat to name 2) while Zoro doesn't get them. The best scenario possible for Zoro powerwise is to get a Goku - Vegeta treatment but that will not happen.
 
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#34
This usually doesn't happen. Alsobthere is a thing called prime and after it.you start to decline training or not. If Luffy will die it will be at his prime or after it and that is the same time Zoro will get to it (just look at WB and Roger). Also it could be that eos Luffy gets some duper uber ability only a scant few have (adv coc or voat to name 2) while Zoro doesn't get them. The best scenario possible for Zoro powerwise is to get a Goku - Vegeta treatment but that will not happen.
Yes it's defined as prime in that it's the most robust power level that particular character is meant to have ever reached and so it doesn't even necessarily equal the age peak, assuming the character for example trained intensely in late age. It depends.
 
#36
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Yes it's defined as prime in that it's the most robust power level that particular character is meant to have ever reached and so it doesn't even necessarily equal the age peak, assuming the character for example trained intensely in late age. It depends.
It also depends on the series, if you have immortal characters/
Yes it's defined as prime in that it's the most robust power level that particular character is meant to have ever reached and so it doesn't even necessarily equal the age peak, assuming the character for example trained intensely in late age. It depends.
It depends also on the series. In OP we have pretty much every character, or at least top tier, reach a peak somewhere in their "young age" (Roger, Garp, Ray, Sengoku etc. Etc.) which maybe can go on until 40, 50 or even more for some rare excpetions, but indeed these are rare exceptions (is BM in her prime right now despite her age is the same as Garp? Probably).

But anyway the main reason Zoro will not become stronger than Luffy is cause Oda will not draw something like that. He even made Zoro seem to reach Luffy.. For the time of half a chapter until Luffy unlocked adv coc.
 
#37
Zoro and Luffy have always been relative In strength if you don’t acknowledge that your willingly blind, and you expect zoro just to stop training he worked his ass off to be the wss and isn’t even going to try and retain the title.
Luffy is always steps ahead of Zoro, they are not that close with Luffy growing much stronger by the minute... so they are definitely not relatively close in strength. Zoro only exceed in offense and endurance while his captain Luffy exceed in both of these much more and every other aspect in combat by a huge margin. And on the second part even if we talk about Luffy the main character who is 19 with insane growth in strength do you believe he will be still growing stronger even by the age of 22 which is still young? It’s obviously a NO. There’s a limit/a wall where if you reach it that’s it for you, you cannot grow Any stronger past that. EOS Zoro can only train to sustain his strength to not decline and keep his title of WSS.
 
#39
Luffy is always steps ahead of Zoro, they are not that close with Luffy growing much stronger by the minute... so they are definitely not relatively close in strength. Zoro only exceed in offense and endurance while his captain Luffy exceed in both of these much more and every other aspect in combat by a huge margin. And on the second part even if we talk about Luffy the main character who is 19 with insane growth in strength do you believe he will be still growing stronger even by the age of 22 which is still young? It’s obviously a NO. There’s a limit/a wall where if you reach it that’s it for you, you cannot grow Any stronger past that. EOS Zoro can only train to sustain his strength to not decline and keep his title of WSS.
What are you talking about luffy has never been leagues ahead of zoro, zoro came into the timeskip stronger then Luffy and Luffy barely got an edge over zoro a chapter ago with acoc and even that’s debatable considering how injured zoro was when he damaged Kaido, ”huge margin“ stop with the hyperbole. No there is no limit or wall who said Luffy is going to stop growing at 22? So Kaido is the exact same strength level he was when oden dunked on him? Please show me the vivre card/manga statement/Databook that says Zoro will stop growing oh wait you can’t because you just made up this false growth limit.
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If Rayleigh wasn't even close to being the strongest, then Zoro won't even be close to being the strongest as well.
if Rayleigh wasn’t close to being the strongest then Kaido and shanks couldn’t even lick the boots of the strongest
 
#40
What are you talking about luffy has never been leagues ahead of zoro, zoro came into the timeskip stronger then Luffy and Luffy barely got an edge over zoro a chapter ago with acoc and even that’s debatable considering how injured zoro was when he damaged Kaido, ”huge margin“ stop with the hyperbole. No there is no limit or wall who said Luffy is going to stop growing at 22? So Kaido is the exact same strength level he was when oden dunked on him? Please show me the vivre card/manga statement/Databook that says Zoro will stop growing oh wait you can’t because you just made up this false growth limit.
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if Rayleigh wasn’t close to being the strongest then Kaido and shanks couldn’t even lick the boots of the strongest
This is true, and very evident in wano that zoro got out of post-TS stronger than luffy.
A lot of people failed to realize it, or rather, choose not to realize it.
Oda has purposefully not shown zoro's full strength because it would eclipsed and overshadowed Luffy's strength post-TS.

Luffy had to get multiple power-ups from doffy, crackers and katakuri and still got 1 shot by Kaido. Even with his training with Ryuo, he was on par with zoro post enma.
 
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