Future Events If ZKK doesn't happen then

#23
i dont know but Orochi is also a fucking dragon and he's the most responsible for what happened on Wano more than Kaido, because he's the one who brought Kaido to Wano. people should blame Orochi more than Kaido, he enslaves people, he want to see Wano people suffers, he's a tyrant. Kaido is just a typical pirates, and thats the price for bringing pirates to their country.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#26
Orochi is a snake. Momos sword is the snake slayer sword famous in japan for killing the yamata no orochi
1 + 1 = ?
i dont know but Orochi is also a fucking dragon and he's the most responsible for what happened on Wano more than Kaido, because he's the one who brought Kaido to Wano. people should blame Orochi more than Kaido, he enslaves people, he want to see Wano people suffers, he's a tyrant. Kaido is just a typical pirates, and thats the price for bringing pirates to their country.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#27
Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Failed to be as big as Ryuma in his own home country (sword god lol)
Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Failed to cut Kaido to pieces as he says
Failed to live to fate when bringing Shusui back (he brought Shusui back so Luffy can win )
Failed to make Kaido fall down as said in chapter 1010
Vivre cards are bullshit (Oni Hunter my ass)
Failed to avenge Yasui when Orochi killed him
Sat out for 10 chapters just to beat King who was losing to Marco 90% of the time
And he’s still the coolest, strongest motherfucker around…can you believe it? Even when the haters wanna ignore the canon, doesn’t change one bit of what Zoro’s accomplished AND emphasizes how little some of his crew mates have done at the same time :steef:
 
#28
Orochi is a snake. Momos sword is the snake slayer sword famous in japan for killing the yamata no orochi
1 + 1 = ?
nope, yamata no orochi is not really a snake, he's between a dragon and snake tho, some called it snake, some called it dragon... and i doubt Momo is strong enough to kill Orochi but the possibility is still there.
 
#32
What ZKKers fail to comprehend is the story progression of one piece. They want Zoro> Luffy so bad that they don't realize how it would ruin the story.

After wano, Zoro still needs to fight:
  • an admiral
  • Mihawk
  • possibly Shiryu
  • a gorosei
Ryuma isn't just a stepping stone for Zoro, surpassing ryuma is effectively part of Zoro's dream. So then, it what world does it make sense for Zoro to do that now when he still has so many more opponents to face?

In wano, Zoro is supposed to surpass Oden. That's why he got enma and its why he briefly awakened ACoC. Luffy is going to surpass kaido and become yonko level, Zoro is going to surpass Oden and become high YC1 tier.
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Zoro's ryuma moment will probably be against the gorosei. Im willing to bet that one of them will have a western dragon mythical zoan, just like the one Ryuma killed in monsters.
 

Dickie D. Dick

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#33
After wano, Zoro still needs to fight:
  • an admiral
  • Mihawk
  • possibly Shiryu
  • a gorosei
All stronger than Crydo
Ryuma isn't just a stepping stone for Zoro, surpassing ryuma is effectively part of Zoro's dream. So then, it what world does it make sense for Zoro to do that now when he still has so many more opponents to face?

In wano, Zoro is supposed to surpass Oden. That's why he got enma and its why he briefly awakened ACoC. Luffy is going to surpass kaido and become yonko level, Zoro is going to surpass Oden and become high YC1 tier.
No! Mihawk is Zoro goal Ryuma is ghost for Zoro!
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#35
What ZKKers fail to comprehend is the story progression of one piece. They want Zoro> Luffy so bad that they don't realize how it would ruin the story.

After wano, Zoro still needs to fight:
  • an admiral
  • Mihawk
  • possibly Shiryu
  • a gorosei
Ryuma isn't just a stepping stone for Zoro, surpassing ryuma is effectively part of Zoro's dream. So then, it what world does it make sense for Zoro to do that now when he still has so many more opponents to face?

In wano, Zoro is supposed to surpass Oden. That's why he got enma and its why he briefly awakened ACoC. Luffy is going to surpass kaido and become yonko level, Zoro is going to surpass Oden and become high YC1 tier.
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Zoro's ryuma moment will probably be against the gorosei. Im willing to bet that one of them will have a western dragon mythical zoan, just like the one Ryuma killed in monsters.
Yes you're right oda made gyukimaru tell us ryuma slayed a dragon above the capital
And then will make zoro a direct descendant of ryuma will have his dad die to kaido all to ignore the dragon that's going to be above the Flower Capital in a bit to slay a gorosei. Makes sense
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so Kaido is fish not dragon then?
Kaidos model is dragon
Orochis is yamato no orochi which is a snake
 
#36
Kaidos model is dragon
Orochis is yamato no orochi which is a snake
tbh all of this beast DF is ridiculous lmao, fish but dragon, dragon but dino/ptero, etc etc.

and for Momo, first of all he should atleast learn haki and better swordmanship before killing Orochi, but sorry if he's not then its such a shit writting.
 
#37
If Luffy 1v1's Kaido right now that just means Kaido is currently one of the weakest top tiers instead of the strongest.

What would be the tension if Luffy can defeat the strongest character in the vers ein a 1v1 this early? How would we have an interesting fight if all admirals, including Akainu where weaker than Kaido? Theres still at least 2 arcs to end the manga, and theres no way Luffy wont need to face even stronger foes.
:luuh:

Luffy is definely getting help or Kaido is just all bark and no bite.
Maybe because it's already not 1v1? Kaido has been ganged up on by dozens of top-tier people for hours now while lifting Onigashima. So even if Luffy beat him somehow, it still doesn't mean that Luffy is stronger than him because the fight is unfair as it gets
 
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