Questions & Mysteries Is advanced CoC really only no touching?

[Philosoraptor]

Show the actual hit

What difference does it make?

 

[MonsterKaido]

Shallow version [1]
With CoC [2]

So luffy is not using adv coa here? Did he forget how to use it?

 

[Buggy D Clown]

What difference does it make?

To see what it looks like

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Luffy clearly was touching Kaido when he was in G5, and it was clearly stated he was using both COA and COC.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Has Luffy used the barrier CoA against Kaido in an attack before he learned to use CoC coating?

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

It's just weird overall that Law brought up the no touch thing anyway since he has been watching Kaido use AdCoC the whole time and he doesn't even know what AdCoC is anyway

This cant be a coincidence when Oden also said the same thing during Roger-Whitebeard clash. It seems Oda is trying to highlight two conquerors clashing wouldnt touch each other.

 

[Philosoraptor]

So luffy is not using adv coa here? Did he forget how to use it?

I don't think he "forgot" it was just a writers choice. Oda did the same thing making Luffy do regular [EG] and then a [base aCoC punch] right after.

 

[L55]

This cant be a coincidence when Oden also said the same thing during Roger-Whitebeard clash. It seems Oda is trying to highlight two conquerors clashing wouldnt touch each other.

The requirement to get acoc is to have barier coa

 

[ZenZu]

Has Luffy used the barrier CoA against Kaido in an attack before he learned to use CoC coating?

IIRC not a single time.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

The requirement to get acoc is to have barier coa

Sounds like a pretty easy requirement if you ask me. So why Kaido thought Luffy couldnt do AdCoC?

 

[Score]

Kaido literally using barrier level 3 here

Removes any doubt

Looks like he does it here too

 

[L55]

Sounds like a pretty easy requirement if you ask me. So why Kaido thought Luffy couldnt do AdCoC?

Idk
But u need the flow of haki to do acoc aka ryou
There must be another requirement

 

[Philosoraptor]

Luffy clearly was touching Kaido when he was in G5, and it was clearly stated he was using both COA and COC.

Yes but it wasn't stated to use aCoA, didnt state anywhere using it's advance usages. Read the text carefully, it was highlighting Luffy's awaken power to convert his abilities to toon force

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

There must be another requirement

Oda is still thinking about other requirements so he can bullshit his way out of this mess lmao

 

[L55]

Oda is still thinking about other requirements so he can bullshit his way out of this mess lmao

 

[MonsterKaido]

Removes any doubt

Looks like he does it here too

Absolutely. People hate Kaido lol

 

[ZenZu]

Kaido literally using barrier level 3 here

Hmm that's a good find, I remember that panel now but I automatically assumed it was Luffy protecting himself with a barrier (maybe because Kaidou never opts for it, and Luffy has FS so he saw the attack coming). No confirmation it's level 3 though.

 

[MonsterKaido]

I don't think he "forgot" it was just a writers choice. Oda did the same thing making Luffy do regular [EG] and then a [base aCoC punch] right after.

Ok bro lol

 

[Buggy D Clown]

IIRC not a single time.

This shit is so weird man, I'm sure he has something in mind for it but he is so bad at communicating it to his readers.

My thoughts so far:

• AdCoC can be without touching because we have seen it and even if it was just art style/laziness showing it not be, Luffy and Kaido's final clash strongly implies that AdCoC isn't inherently no touch
• Infusing a CoA Barrier with CoC makes the most sense, since it would make CoA almost useless otherwise. Have we seen AdCoC without CoA(black)? Did it no touch if so?
• But then Oden and Law commenting on it is so weird because it makes it sound like no touch is the stand out part of AdCoC

 

[ZenZu]

I always find myself going back to square one on this topic. Not a single person knows wtf is going on, Loda what have you done 😂