Questions & Mysteries Is Oda doing King the background justice?

#82
I can read just fine but I am ignoring what you are feeling because it is irrelevant to facts.
I can feel lots of things but it doesnt matter if manga does the opposite.
You said it could be done this way or that way, my point is that it wasnt done like that.
There is nothing to feel about it...
Okay, Mr. Calculator :wellwell:

Mr. talk only about facts

Mr. Don't discuss speculations, cause they don't matter
 
#85
Wapol and Mr. 3 fought Luffy the next PK, so they’re stronger than Mr. 1
Read the comment i quoted. I meant King is not the strongest Right hand coz he will fight Zoro(posibly) when Katakuri fought the next PK himself
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I wist he and hitetsu are linked and they forge weapons.
But then Zoro's opponents don't get such cool plots and backstory during the battle

Daz, Kaku, Pica...


Yeah sure
You are right on the Zoros opponents part. Zoro has only fought boring characters(except Kaku). Maybe King is just another guy to test Zoro(if that happens). With all these big names in Wano, I doubt Oda will give everyone extensive sideplots. Maybe he is just King the background :cheers:
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#86
Read the comment i quoted. I meant King is not the strongest Right hand coz he will fight Zoro(posibly) when Katakuri fought the next PK himself
Isnt King the strongest precisely because he will fight Zoro?
Zoro is far more dangerous than Luffy.
You cannot allow yourself to take even one clean slice from Zoro while you can eat hundreds of hits from Luffy.
How does that translate in fighting Luffy being more impressive?
 
#90
Kata had great moments before the 1v1
Which ?

- Killing a fodder like Jigra?
- Not being able to kill Sanji despite looking in the future while Sanji was confused?
- Not being able to stop Luffy from showing meme the portrait etc etc.

Listen, i don't hate Katakuri, he's cool af, but he factually failed in everything he ever attempted in doing at WCI. He had to carry his crew but those are just the facts.
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#91
When it comes to combat performance King is the one who needs to carry this arc on his back.
While Kaido and Big Mom are stronger than King, they are just brutes far above anyone else in Wano.
Precisely because they are significantly stronger than all others their combat will most likely be dull.

What we will get from them is just power struggle, who will overpower who in a clash...
Kaido's Borobreath may make it interesting but else, he will most likely just go into a fistfight...
Big Mom will drop Napoleon too when she fights Luffy and also go into fistfight infused by hommies.

They are powerful brutes with ridiculous stats but their combat wont be more impressive than King's, imo.
Even other Calamities and perhaps some Flying Six and Apoo will offer a more interesting combat performance.
Even if WCI, Big Mom's ridiculous feats lost the spotlight to Katakuri's combat despite him being far weaker.
 
#92
Isnt King the strongest precisely because he will fight Zoro?
Zoro is far more dangerous than Luffy.
You cannot allow yourself to take even one clean slice from Zoro while you can eat hundreds of hits from Luffy.
How does that translate in fighting Luffy being more impressive?
Zoro is a swordsman so ofc most of his attacks are more lethal than Luffy's. My point was who is stronger. There are a lot of other factors to consider besides lethality to measure overall strength.Luffy is definitely stronger than Zoro just like every guy Luffy has fought is definitely stronger than every guy that Zoro has fought
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#93
Luffy is definitely stronger than Zoro
We will see about that...
There are a lot of other factors to consider besides lethality to measure overall strength.
Sure, let's see the stats comparison.

Lethality - King(swordsman)
Physical power - King(Zoan)
Endurance - King(Zoan)
Durability - King(fights with a weapon non-stop)
Speed - unknown but considering Zoan boosting physical stats it's logically King again
DC - King undoubtedly since Katakuri's DC feats were rather poor
CoA - unknown but King is far better guess than Katakuri
CoO - Katakuri
CoC - useless but Katakuri, for now
AoE capabilities - yet to be seen, Katakuri has awakening in his favor while King could have sword AOE techniques or fire-spreading

As you can see, aside from CoO, all other stats are most likely in King's favor. Katakuri suffers because he was paired against Luffy, I am sure he would be better if he was paired against someone else who doesnt need plot armor like Luffy did but it is what it is...
 
#95
We will see about that...

Sure, let's see the stats comparison.

Lethality - King(swordsman)
Physical power - King(Zoan)
Endurance - King(Zoan)
Durability - King(fights with a weapon non-stop)
Speed - unknown but considering Zoan boosting physical stats it's logically King again
DC - King undoubtedly since Katakuri's DC feats were rather poor
CoA - unknown but King is far better guess than Katakuri
CoO - Katakuri
CoC - useless but Katakuri, for now
AoE capabilities - yet to be seen, Katakuri has awakening in his favor while King could have sword AOE techniques or fire-spreading

As you can see, aside from CoO, all other stats are most likely in King's favor. Katakuri suffers because he was paired against Luffy, I am sure he would be better if he was paired against someone else who doesnt need plot armor like Luffy did but it is what it is...
Luffy is stronger than Zoro. Theres nothing to see
IMO except the first 3 and DC all other stats goes to Katakuri. Im not excluding the possibility that King is stronger than Kuri(or vic versa) but we need to see more from King to determine that.
Which brings us to the topic of this thread which is why King is not getting the spotlight as the other YCs.
 
#96
Not going to lie, he's a bit underwhelming. For example we kind of knew that kaku was going to be zoro's opponent after water seven and he got some hype and some dialogues before the fight.

King is just a guy standing around acting like a badass but he has no personality at all.
At this point if brook kicked his ass I would be like "alright I didn't how strong that guy was so I can accept it".

And please don't come at me again with that bullshit "but but he defeated a ship":laughmoji:

Really? Did the ship try to defend itself?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#97
Not going to lie, he's a bit underwhelming. For example we kind of knew that kaku was going to be zoro's opponent after water seven and he got some hype and some dialogues before the fight.

King is just a guy standing around acting like a badass but he has no personality at all.
At this point if brook kicked his ass I would be like "alright I didn't how strong that guy was so I can accept it".

And please don't come at me again with that bullshit "but but he defeated a ship":laughmoji:

Really? Did the ship try to defend itself?
There were people on that ship who were so scared of him they didnt try to come wano until they had persmssion.
 
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