Current Events Is Oda leaving Sanji behind?
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I think that's too much swap.
Round1 is ok. Round 2 I believe it should be the 3 captains vs the 2 yonkos. (I don't think it's beneath Oda to power up Kid and Law out of nowhere so they can handle Big Mom while Luffy solos Kaido :P ) Zoro vs king if fine, sanji vs queen is fine, Killer vs smoothie? honestly? I think it's more likely Jack come back and be more of a threat than Smoothie. I think Marco will just play support. Maybe Perospero deals with Carrot and Wanda and then Marcos finishes him?
Round1 is ok. Round 2 I believe it should be the 3 captains vs the 2 yonkos. (I don't think it's beneath Oda to power up Kid and Law out of nowhere so they can handle Big Mom while Luffy solos Kaido :P ) Zoro vs king if fine, sanji vs queen is fine, Killer vs smoothie? honestly? I think it's more likely Jack come back and be more of a threat than Smoothie. I think Marco will just play support. Maybe Perospero deals with Carrot and Wanda and then Marcos finishes him?
I don't think so,if Jack Comes back,Jinbei will probably be fighting him i think since Oda will want the strawhats to be the ones dealing with Kaido's crew.
I just have Killer vs Smoothie because of lack of any decent opponent to fight Killer,but it can be anyone really.
Anyways,the 5 Sn on the roof are losing that fight against the 2 Emperors,i'm sure of it.
Oden's prediction was only about Kaido's defeat and not 2 Emperors.
I just have Killer vs Smoothie because of lack of any decent opponent to fight Killer,but it can be anyone really.
Anyways,the 5 Sn on the roof are losing that fight against the 2 Emperors,i'm sure of it.
Oden's prediction was only about Kaido's defeat and not 2 Emperors.
This thread truly makes sense only when the arc is over and Sanji didn't get any big feat. For now, war is still in the initial stages and few matchups are yet to be established and so it is too early to make a comment regarding anything related to Sanji. Zoro was nowhere near dome until this chapter and the first few chapters after flashback he was fighting gifters and now look where he was, Luffy was off the spotlight for like 10+ chapters in the whole raid and now he is in front of Kaido, look at Law or Kid/Killer so anything can happen from this point of time. Sanji can fight either King or Queen or one of the Tobi Roppo or he will be background like he was in the past 2-3 chapters. Only time will tell.
The raid suit is needed to make Sanji stronger. In WCI we were shown the shortcoming of Sanji without the raid suit and how he would be able to get stronger if he gets it.
Sanji getting the raid suit has nothing to do with Luffy or Zoro, it is all about him and Oda making him stronger in order to fight stronger enemies in the upcoming arcs.
The raid suit doesn't really mean Sanji can keep up with Luffy and Zoro cause Luffy and Zoro did not stagnate whilst Sanji was the only one to increase in power. All of the got stronger however, we don't know by how much. Anyway, we are getting to the fights so we will be able to see how the sh compare to each other and to other people.
Sanji getting the raid suit has nothing to do with Luffy or Zoro, it is all about him and Oda making him stronger in order to fight stronger enemies in the upcoming arcs.
The raid suit doesn't really mean Sanji can keep up with Luffy and Zoro cause Luffy and Zoro did not stagnate whilst Sanji was the only one to increase in power. All of the got stronger however, we don't know by how much. Anyway, we are getting to the fights so we will be able to see how the sh compare to each other and to other people.
But Oda made him stronger pre time skip just fine without a Raid Suit.
Surely Oda would not get any complaints from the readers if Sanji remains competitive with the other SH's without a Raid Suit, when before the time skip he was shown as a monster in comparison to them without said Raid Suit.
The sole purpose of the Raid Suit is to give an explanation for why all of the arguments people bring up about the combat focused goals and training will not prevent Sanji from keeping up.
Those would have made sense without the Raid Suit. But Oda wants to maintain the M3, as he always did, so thats what the RS is for.
Only the top Three Supernovas and their Supernova First Mates. Kidd and Killer are there as Kidd and Luffy's first mates, because they require their support.
Sanji is not Luffy's First Mate, but he never was, so that's not him falling behind. It's not like Sanji took Luffy's pain instead of Zoro in Thriller Bark and now suddenly the roles are reversed. They both offered themselves up, but Oda pushed Zoro that extra step further, as he's doing now.
Surely Oda would not get any complaints from the readers if Sanji remains competitive with the other SH's without a Raid Suit, when before the time skip he was shown as a monster in comparison to them without said Raid Suit.
The sole purpose of the Raid Suit is to give an explanation for why all of the arguments people bring up about the combat focused goals and training will not prevent Sanji from keeping up.
Those would have made sense without the Raid Suit. But Oda wants to maintain the M3, as he always did, so thats what the RS is for.
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Only the top Three Supernovas and their Supernova First Mates. Kidd and Killer are there as Kidd and Luffy's first mates, because they require their support.
Sanji is not Luffy's First Mate, but he never was, so that's not him falling behind. It's not like Sanji took Luffy's pain instead of Zoro in Thriller Bark and now suddenly the roles are reversed. They both offered themselves up, but Oda pushed Zoro that extra step further, as he's doing now.
I think theres's a possibility that Yamato may clash with King. King has constantly been hunting down Momo, and Yamato is protecting him. King is also the one who gathered the F6 to hunt for Yamato. Also would be poetic if Yamato is to fight someone with "fire" ability. 
Let analyse the character and plot that Oda presented for Onigashima.
King role: he was leading the topi ropo and comand to catch first Yamato and after Momosuke.
King speech when he talks to Marco (that is carrying Zoro): After we kill Momosuke the rebelion is over. (no mention whatever about the strahat or Zoro) but main focus still Momosuke.
Now the plot and story wanted to put together the 2 children (Yamato and Momosuke), Oda wanted to make this 2 bonded together and shearing info about Luffy&New Generation. Yamato said again and again that she ll protect Momosuke whatever it takes. She did that to Luffy&Franky& and the 9 scabban.
King is a very cold and strategic character and his role is to stop the rebellion. What the main piece that need to go?
Momosuke
Connect the dot and you ll have the matchup of Yamato&Momosuke vs King (which could be very good for Momosuke too)
Marco is really a ? I believe he ll stop fighting king cuz need to heal the 9 scabban (Izo is a whitebear commander)
Queen like I said has 2 major plot : 1 is to eliminate the spy (x-Drake) second look like he show interest for Sanji
Now I know that Fan are looking for a Katana vs Katana fight vs Zoro
I believe Zoro ll have a clash with someone willding a Sword (big Mom) but his main fight ll be vs Kaido (kaido dostn use a Kata but still have a maze) which can be clashed with a sword!!!!!
Nothing has changed protryal wise before or after the timeskip in regards to both characters- Zoro and Sanji.
Sanji was always lagging behind.
He never was highlighted to be part of a higher group in either halves of the story.
Luffy's and Zoro's wills and ambition were highlighted since the beginning of the story. They a whole different breed.
Sanji's fine for what he is. A fighting cook.
When you take gags as power scaling that's when you start hurting yourself, since you delude yourself into believing something that just isn't there.
He's decent, but he's no Zoro and he certainly isn't a Luffy.
Sanji was always lagging behind.
He never was highlighted to be part of a higher group in either halves of the story.
Luffy's and Zoro's wills and ambition were highlighted since the beginning of the story. They a whole different breed.
Sanji's fine for what he is. A fighting cook.
When you take gags as power scaling that's when you start hurting yourself, since you delude yourself into believing something that just isn't there.
He's decent, but he's no Zoro and he certainly isn't a Luffy.
Lagging behind would mean that at any point going from the beginning of the story, Sanji got further and further away from Zoro.
And yet, more than half way into the story, Sanji looked the closest he's ever been to Zoro in EL.
So he was not lagging behind. They were all moving at at least a similar pace, while for the most part maintaining the same positions they started in.
Does Luffy lack honor for saying that he will defeat Kaido when in fact Zoro's going to do it ?
How about Big Mom, he said he would defeat Big Mom to.
Does Luffy defeat both the Yonko on the roof this arc ?
And yet, more than half way into the story, Sanji looked the closest he's ever been to Zoro in EL.
So he was not lagging behind. They were all moving at at least a similar pace, while for the most part maintaining the same positions they started in.
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Will he fight King before or later he will have vanquished Kaido by cutting down his head since he claimed he would and he's a man of honor?
Will King fight Zoro before or later Marco will have vanquished his ass?
Will King fight Zoro before or later Marco will have vanquished his ass?
How about Big Mom, he said he would defeat Big Mom to.
Does Luffy defeat both the Yonko on the roof this arc ?
