Current Events Is Oda leaving Sanji behind?

Is sanji no longer in the league of Zoro and Luffy?

  • Yes but this gap was there from the beginning

  • Yes but the gap became more apparent since Time skip

  • Yes but sanji will close the gap in future

  • There is no gap because I read two piece

  • Gap is there but atleast his neck isn't getting squeezed like King and Queen 🤭

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Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#181
#181
wereng99 said:
For saji fans: there's no longer m3 with jinbei joining and Yamato seemingly also join, now the new era of monster duo(luffy and zoro)
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M3 could be Sanji, Yamato and Jinbe tbh, in that order. Sanji is very likely to fight a calamity at this point, while Jinbe is seemingly locked into a fight with probably the strongest F6 member. Jack was missing this chapter near the roof, meaning he's probably being saved for something. I would not be surprised if he encounters Yamato and fights her.

I am becoming increasingly convinced of the duoship Luffy/Zoro have (they've always had but Luffys opponents were just always far stronger). If Zoro stays on the roof, fights Kaido until the end, then in convinced of it. If he relegates back to ZvK, which is great in its own right, then I believe Zoro is part of the M4 with the other 3, while Luffy is the "Yonko".

That being said, I am one of those people that believes Shanks and Mihawk will be their final fights or at least one of them, and they are considered equal so maybe Luffy/Zoro have been always set up to be equal in a way.

Nobody is outshining Luffy though in his own story. Zoro is the sole exception back in TB, and it made perfect sense. Does Zoro pulling a Ryuuma on Kaido also make sense? Yes, I can see it, but am reserved for now. Chapter 1000 put the spotlight solely on Luffy, not Zoro
 
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duckman

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#183
#183
BossYimz said:
It isnt oda leaving Sanji behind. He is just doing what was destined to happen. If you just consider fighting then it seems as though he is being left behind however, if you consider Sanji's tole and character, he has not been left behind.

Luffy and Zoro are fighters and their roles require that. So it is obvious they will receive fights.we are in yonko saga so obviously they will go against them

Sanji is a cook. If you look throughout new world, hie cooking has been emphasized. He has been advancing in his cooking. If you just look at cooking compared to Fighting of Luffy and Zoro, thrn Sanji has not fallen behind at all. He baked a cake for a yonko.
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This is absolute nonsense. His strength has been emphasized in every arc, including by Zoro. Man stffu with this shit you guys like to bring up. The literal first thing Sanji does in WCI (before his 2 1 v 1s) is annihilate Raid Suit Yonji.
 
T.D.A

T.D.A

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#187
#187
Sanji got a whole arc centred around his character, family, romance and more in Whole Cake Island, while Zoro was literally missing in that entire arc.

Meanwhile in Wano arc, Zoro still has to give up most of the spotlight to Luffy AND the other SNs and there's still all the other SHs including Sanji who is actually present in this arc.

Yet Sanji fans want him to fight as strong of an opponent as Luffy/Zoro, even though his character isn't reliant on being the strongest unlike those two.
 
wereng99

wereng99

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#188
#188
Paperchampion23 said:
M3 could be Sanji, Yamato and Jinbe tbh, in that order. Sanji is very likely to fight a calamity at this point, while Jinbe is seemingly locked into a fight with probably the strongest F6 member. Jack was missing this chapter near the roof, meaning he's probably being saved for something. I would not be surprised if he encounters Yamato and fights her.

I am becoming increasingly convinced of the duoship Luffy/Zoro have (they've always had but Luffys opponents were just always far stronger). If Zoro stays on the roof, fights Kaido until the end, then in convinced of it. If he relegates back to ZvK, which is great in its own right, then I believe Zoro is part of the M4 with the other 3, while Luffy is the "Yonko".

That being said, I am one of those people that believes Shanks and Mihawk will be their final fights or at least one of them, and they are considered equal so maybe Luffy/Zoro have been always set up to be equal in a way.

Nobody is outshining Luffy though in his own story. Zoro is the sole exception back in TB, and it made perfect sense. Does Zoro pulling a Ryuuma on Kaido also make sense? Yes, I can see it, but am reserved for now. Chapter 1000 put the spotlight solely on Luffy, not Zoro
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Yes I agreed that zoro never gonna outshine luffy cause this is his story, my point still that now the new era of monster duo, both of them will makes legend of themselves
 
Constantine

Constantine

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#189
#189
Paperchampion23 said:
M3 could be Sanji, Yamato and Jinbe tbh, in that order. Sanji is very likely to fight a calamity at this point, while Jinbe is seemingly locked into a fight with probably the strongest F6 member. Jack was missing this chapter near the roof, meaning he's probably being saved for something. I would not be surprised if he encounters Yamato and fights her.

I am becoming increasingly convinced of the duoship Luffy/Zoro have (they've always had but Luffys opponents were just always far stronger). If Zoro stays on the roof, fights Kaido until the end, then in convinced of it. If he relegates back to ZvK, which is great in its own right, then I believe Zoro is part of the M4 with the other 3, while Luffy is the "Yonko".

That being said, I am one of those people that believes Shanks and Mihawk will be their final fights or at least one of them, and they are considered equal so maybe Luffy/Zoro have been always set up to be equal in a way.

Nobody is outshining Luffy though in his own story. Zoro is the sole exception back in TB, and it made perfect sense. Does Zoro pulling a Ryuuma on Kaido also make sense? Yes, I can see it, but am reserved for now. Chapter 1000 put the spotlight solely on Luffy, not Zoro
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Yamato is not joining the Shs bro
 
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trav

#191
#191
Chrono said:
Its amazing how Hawkins can be counted as a W for Zoro but Vergo is counted as a L for Sanji.
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are you serious?
Hawkins got long range blitzed by Zoro. thats an unheard of feat. FS Luffy standing there drooling over it.
Hawkins lost 2 (3) of his lives to Zoro while all he did was cause superficial damage.

Sanji got his leg broken by casual Vergo.
yes, casual. he was not even trying there. not even remotely.
no FBH, no baboo, no nothing. and Sanji was already inferior. does not matter if he kept up in terms of speed. Vergo crushed 1 of his 2 main weapons with little to no effort.

get fucking real
 
Chrono

Chrono

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#194
#194
trav said:
are you serious?
Hawkins got long range blitzed by Zoro. thats an unheard of feat. FS Luffy standing there drooling over it.
Hawkins lost 2 (3) of his lives to Zoro while all he did was cause superficial damage.

Sanji got his leg broken by casual Vergo.
yes, casual. he was not even trying there. not even remotely.
no FBH, no baboo, no nothing. and Sanji was already inferior. does not matter if he kept up in terms of speed. Vergo crushed 1 of his 2 main weapons with little to no effort.

get fucking real
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Hawkins fucking power revolves around losing lives. Hes overly reliant in this and doesnt care if he loses lives. Taking his lives isnt impressive when dude doesnt bother to defend or dodge in anyway possible

An injured Sanji, where a punch from Nami banged up his body went on to fight Vergo 2 chapters later. In this very arc Zoro is running away from fodder because hes scared af to get injured for his fight with Kaido.....and you think taking an explosion prior wouldnt mess up Sanji's durability against Vergo.

You say long ranged blitzed like its impressive against an opponent has shown no willingness to ever dodge in his life, yet we have Sanji blitzing and ragdolling Vergo in an injured state. Blocking a full momentum kick whilst injured and not moving an inch, etc.
 
rerere

rerere

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#196
#196
trav said:
are you serious?
Hawkins got long range blitzed by Zoro. thats an unheard of feat. FS Luffy standing there drooling over it.
Hawkins lost 2 (3) of his lives to Zoro while all he did was cause superficial damage.
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Wait
First Zoro vs Hawkins was a skirmish, not a fight. Nobody won.
The fact that Zoro took 2 of Hawkins lives doesn't mean that he killed him twice lol, that's an implication of Hawkins DF (Wara Wara).

"The main weakness of this ability is that each doll can only take one hit before it is expended" from the Wiki

Which means that probably a Red Hawk would take a life from Hawkins but wouldn't kill him if he had no dolls, basically everytime a minimum damage is received by Hawkins a doll dies. This doesn't mean that the same damage could kill him without dolls tho.
Just to make it clear cause I readed a lot of shit on Hawkins
 
Chrono

Chrono

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#199
#199
PerfectHie said:
You're downplaying Zoro for not wanting to waste his time with fodder and go for Kaido. Why is that a bad thing?
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Did I downplay him ? Reread what I said. Im using Zoro as an example to show that previous injuries can affect fights. In this case Zoro was scared of taking damage from Gifters since it could affect him against Kaido. Whilst people love to ignore Sanji taking damage against Caeser before then facing Vergo.

The fact that Oda had to lament Sanji's body being banged up twice and people still not getting this....is dumb af.
 
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