Future Events Is Oda trying to remove Kid and Law from the One Piece battle?

#63
Kid fans are making ZKK boys look sane right now
Kidd fans are legit going against the entire long running storyline in the whole manga

At least ZKK had could happen and wouldn’t waste all that
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I’m deeping it

Kid fans saying Kid will not lose to Shanks and be in the race is like if Smoker beat Luffy in Punk Hazard
 
#64
Now" was Killer fighting Hawkins.....
Hawkins was then this is now.


if they were not highlighted during Wano, they wont be directly highlighted here.
no they would since fight is fully focus on kid and his crew.

Do i expect them to have moments like Penguin/Jean Bart got during the BB stuff? Sure. That still doesnt mean they can fight commanders lol
of course they can since they now have to get involve now.

relevant #2 (Killer/Bepo), the rest barely mentioned or used. The only thing is that Killer has more relevance because he was always written as a Supernova.
bepo is not even comparable to heat and wire lol.

......thats the point. He didnt exist years prior with Shanks and Blackbeard. Hes doesnt have a 1000 chapters of mystery and plot relevance to the MC.
again so what? Oda would whatever way that would shock the disbelief shanks murking kid isn't one of them but Blackbeard defeating law on the other hand would.
 
#66
Kidd fans are legit going against the entire long running storyline in the whole manga

At least ZKK had could happen and wouldn’t waste all that
ZKK was possible if you saw it as a Zoro killing a half-dead Kaido after Luffy did 90% if the work. Kinda like Gin knocking Krieg out after his fight against Luffy.
But there is no reality where Kid is beating Shanks.
 
#69
Literally in the dialogue but continue to laugh it off and live in your own reality.

Is this the excuse that you use when Kid then overwhelmingly loses to both Shanks and Elbaf?

As Ive said before he isn't losing. It makes zero sense storywise. And not sure what dialogue you're talking about. If he was as strong as you think he is, he should go outside by himself and solo the kidd pirates, no? I'll be here, tag me if it ever happens.
 
#70
Hawkins was then this is now.


no they would since fight is fully focus on kid and his crew.

of course they can since they now have to get involve now.

bepo is not even comparable to heat and wire lol.

again so what? Oda would whatever way that would shock the disbelief shanks murking kid isn't one of them but Blackbeard defeating law on the other hand would.
- Killers threshold is Hawkins. Kid's threshold is a Yonko. Theres no comparison lmao

- So we make the exception for Kid, but not Law who is going through the EXACT same situation lmao

- See the above

- See the above...this is purely a fanboy bias from you. Bepo and Jean Bart have more notable scenes tham heat and wire ever got lmao

- and when Oda doesnt write this battle for shock value whatll be the next excuse? That he didnt write a bad scene because you wanted him to?

You posts are just full of whataboutisms, "so what's" and contarian comments all because you desperately want a character to win something he frankly not going to win lol
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As Ive said before he isn't losing. It makes zero sense storywise. And not sure what dialogue you're talking about. If he was as strong as you think he is, he should go outside by himself and solo the kidd pirates, no? I'll be here, tag me if it ever happens.
Yes it does make sense storyline wise lmfao. He wont beat Luffy regardless. Where he loses doesnt matter:milaugh:


BB and Shanks still have a plethora of backstories to address. They literally cannot lose because of narrative, unlike Kid. Kid literally does not need to win in contrast.
 
#72
Killers threshold is Hawkins. Kid's threshold is a Yonko. Theres no comparison lmao
Except killer was already stronger than Hawkins and kid had no problem facing big mom by himself.
- So we make the exception for Kid, but not Law who is going through the EXACT same situation lmao
kid has the potential to better than law.

See the above...this is purely a fanboy bias from you. Bepo and Jean Bart have more notable scenes tham heat and wire ever got lmao
Like what?
 
#74
when Oda doesnt write this battle for shock value whatll be the next excuse? That he didnt write a bad scene because you wanted him to?
don't get the wrong idea I care less who wins just noting oda would go with the narrative with the most shock value.

You posts are just full of whataboutisms, "so what's" and contarian comments all because you desperately want a character to win something he frankly not going to win lol
again I care less wins but saying shanks wins because shanks more towards his narrative is not one of them. Big mom is an example of this.
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And Kid beating Shanks is realistic? :saden:
depending where it goes.
 
#76
Except killer was already stronger than Hawkins and kid had no problem facing big mom by himself.
kid has the potential to better than law.


Like what?
Kid literally could not beat BM without Law. They needed each other. Stop. They both were pushed to the brink.

And uh, hello?

- Bepo's introduction
- Jean Barts introduction
- Bepo/Jean at Marineford saving Luffy/Jinbe with Law and playing their roles
- Bepo at Zou with dialogue and being tied to a Mink that BM killed (his brother).

Name me one thing Heat did outside of a flamethrower attack at Sabaody. Name me one thing Wire did outside of a random kick. Fuck even Saachi/Penguin had funny dialogue with Bepo at Amazon Lily.


Like I said they can totally do a few things in this fight, but its going to be the same thing Law's group got. Minimal exposition. They arent the focus of the crew.
 
#78
Yes. A lot of people have to understand that from a narrative perspective, Law and Kid serve their roles as allies, not competitors for One Piece.They do not have fleets. They are not Yonko. They do not have 8-10 notable commanders in their group.

Conversely, both Shanks and BB do have these traits. They are far older characters than Kid and Law. They are far more important when it comes to lore and tying said lore to the MC. They both must be encountered by the MC.

Law/Kid defeating BM was a good means of elevating Luffy's allies to a level that makes them a viable threat when Luffy becomes PK. They wont die, but they also arent going to be able to compete with Luffy either. Theres a reason they fought BM together while Luffy fought Kaido mostly alone.

This is coming from someone who likes Kid and Law, rooted for them against BM, and saying this obectively that while Im a Shanks fan, it has nothing to do with Shanks frankly. They do not escalate this story as antagonists for One Piece. BB does, and Shanks does at this time (until we know why hes also going after one piece, hes still an antagonist).


Regardless, Kid and Law WILL be major allies in the final war, and may even outlast BB/Shanks in this regard (if BB/Shanks are not involved in the final war, but only for One Piece).
couldnt put it better myself.
 
#80
don't get the wrong idea I care less who wins just noting oda would go with the narrative with the most shock value.

again I care less wins but saying shanks wins because shanks more towards his narrative is not one of them. Big mom is an example of this.
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depending where it goes.
Except

1. Oda doesnt always go for random shock value so Im not sure where this made up rule came from

2. Shanks is a 1000x more relevant to the plot and Luffy than BM ever was, as is Blackbeard.
 
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