Powers & Abilities Is Zoro …

[soupongo]

On the contrary Zoro is a the most gifted among them. Be it from birth or even story view point

-CoC
-Shimotsuki genes
-3 special graded swords
-Enma with Odens haki
-Trained under WSS whom his actual end goal is. lol.

Last point shows that zoro's whole end goal is a complete joke with how he will one day achieve it despite all of above things gifted to him.

Imagine luffy trains under roger on his quest to become the king of the pirates? that would be a complete joke. Zoro's gifted even in story stand point of view. No other swordsmen would ever have a privilege to train under WSS and one day become the very exact thing. Ryuma or even Oden became legendary with their own strength, meanwhile zoro is getting trained under the literal WSS is funny af. He would never top 2 of them. There is a reason why luffy was recognized and compared with Ryuma in Wano & with Oden on how kaido recognized luffy's strength. Never was zoro recognized as highly as that. Simply becoz he is all gifted with everything but still pale in comparison to what others have achieved.
Imagine Vista trains under mihawk and one day becoming WSS? LMAO

Hold on though, Zoro did have to beg Mihawk for training, but the right hand man of the pirate king was begging Luffy to train him lol.

 

[SaitamaSanji]

Hold on though, Zoro did have to beg Mihawk for training, but the right hand man of the pirate king was begging Luffy to train him lol.

Makes it even more pathetic

Imagine luffy meeting roger and begging to train him?
Or Oden/Ryuma goes to someone else and begs to train them?
Kaido begging WB or WB begging Roger or Rocks to train him? LMAO
zoro's whole reason to live and his life goal is a complete joke at this point. Not only that we still haven't met any other notable swordsmen whom actually aims to become WSS. zoro never comes across such obstacles on his quest to become WSS.
Probably Oda's to blame but still doesn't change the fact that it's a complete joke at this point

 

[soupongo]

Makes it even more pathetic

Imagine luffy meeting roger and begging to train him?
Or Oden/Ryuma goes to someone else and begs to train them?
Kaido begging WB or WB begging Roger or Rocks to train him? LMAO
zoro's whole reason to live and his life goal is a complete joke at this point. Not only that we still haven't met any other notable swordsmen whom actually aims to become WSS. zoro never comes across such obstacles on his quest to become WSS.
Probably Oda's to blame but still doesn't change the fact that it's a complete joke at this point

Well, the SH were in a pathetic position at that point, and would have been dead if not for Kuma and Rayleigh, Though I agree, having him be trained by Mihawk himself was a bit much, but unforutunely no one else really cares about being top swordsman

 

[Afroking]

Lmao talk about insecurity..

Hundreds of years later and the brother of Zoro's grandmother and himself are spitting images of Ryuma

The shimotsuki are famed for their hardiness

Ushimaru himself was a great swordmaster after Ryuma & so will Zoro .

Nothing sort of copium if you think the Ryuma gene isn't strong on Zoro,just because it wasn't on his father.

 

[langitbarat]

Nice cope. Sanji is the only one here who doesn't have CoC.

 

[Moegara]

Nice cope. Sanji is the only one here who doesn't have CoC.

Which is why even with additional gifts he can't keep up.

 

[Hamlette]

Which is why even with additional gifts he can't keep up.

So Sanjis only gift is the Germa genes which are inferior to COC which is a gift onto itself and yet Sanji is more gifted?. Sanji shares his power with four other characters who individually can't even defeat a commander while Zoro shares his with the strongest characters in the series and both these powers are by birth but yet you're trying to sell me the idea that Sanji is more gifted?.

 

[L57]

CoC isn’t a gift to be fair
And being descendant of ryuma means nothing when he is a human who trained himself. Joyboy/nika seems to be speical humans unlike ryuma

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Being descendants shinotsuki means nothing and it doesn’t boosts you anything

The shimotsuki
One died to stairs
Another got killed by east blue pirates
Yasue was weak af
So was ushimaru

Idk why they even bring it

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Lmao talk about insecurity..

Hundreds of years later and the brother of Zoro's grandmother and himself are spitting images of Ryuma

The shimotsuki are famed for their hardiness

Ushimaru himself was a great swordmaster after Ryuma & so will Zoro .

Nothing sort of copium if you think the Ryuma gene isn't strong on Zoro,just because it wasn't on his father.

The shimotsuki hardiness bs is fake translation
It means they are tougher as in how they act

 

[Moegara]

So Sanjis only gift is the Germa genes which are inferior to COC which is a gift onto itself and yet Sanji is more gifted?. Sanji shares his power with four other characters who individually can't even defeat a commander while Zoro shares his with the strongest characters in the series and both these powers are by birth but yet you're trying to sell me the idea that Sanji is more gifted?.

- Sanji was genetically engineered to be strong, and the interference of her mother somehow made it even more of a success than his siblings.
- Sanji has never even trained for a single panel the whole series and doesn't even get fights for whole arcs yet keeps getting stronger.
- "Four other characters who individually can't even defeat a commander" is fake news.
- Chinjao also had CoC, you can have CoC and don't amount to anything noteworthy haki-wise, just look at Kid.

Yes, Sanji is more gifted.

I'll add something else, throwing "CoC" into the "gift" category is like throwing "height", "arm reach", "grip" or "personality" in there. Haki is something every living being has in One Piece. Zoro is training and making the most out of his.

 

[Hamlette]

- Sanji was genetically engineered to be strong, and the interference of her mother somehow made it even more of a success than his siblings.
- Sanji has never even trained for a single panel the whole series and doesn't even get fights for whole arcs yet keeps getting stronger.
- "Four other characters who individually can't even defeat a commander" is fake news.
- Chinjao also had CoC, you can have CoC and don't amount to anything noteworthy haki-wise, just look at Kid.

Yes, Sanji is more gifted.

-So were his siblings who are no where near him in power and they have a raid suit to boot
-Sanji trained under Zeff for years of his life then trained in kamabakka kingdom
-It's what was shown to us, but even if you don't agree with this it still doesn't change the fact that no one with Germa genes prior to Sanji had shown top tier potential
-We aren't talking about unrealized potential, we are talking about gifts, what you do with said gifts is a different discussion. Yonji is never going to be as powerful as Sanji, not even close and yet he has the same enhanced genes with a raid suit.

 

[RyoQ]

Picture this:

You are a random Marine

Your dream is to be the WSS.

Suddenly, beyond your training and hard-work, you get
-Ryuma, former sword god, his genetics
-Conqueror's Haki (1 in one million power up)
-A great grade sword (1 in 50 in the world)
-2 years' Training From The World's Strongest Swordsman Himself, quite literally the best training any swordsmen could ever ask for
-2 years in lavish rich 5 star mansion
-A black blade

Is it any wonder how totally blessed and pampered Zolo has been?

 

[Juanpiz]

Picture this:

You are a random Marine

Your dream is to be the WSS.

Suddenly, beyond your training and hard-work, you get
-Conqueror's Haki (1 in one million power up)
-A great grade sword (1 in 50 in the world)
-2 years' Training From The World's Strongest Swordsman Himself, quite literally the best training any swordsmen could ever ask for
-2 years in lavish rich 5 star mansion
-A black blade

Is it any wonder how totally blessed and pampered Zolo has been?

It is Almost as he is one of the Main characters

 

[kumae]

How desperate are the ones who push CoC as gifted when it's about willpower

 

[Afroking]

How desperate are the ones who push CoC as gifted when it's about willpower

They aren't mutually exclusive ...
The CoC users have greater will because they were born destined to be kings...You either are born with or without it ...

Armament & Observation on the other hand are not like CoC.

 

[Ponelglyph]

Sanji is the least gifted..try compare D clan and Shimotsuki clan, whom both could very close related to world destiny, while Sanji, merely Germa product tho

 

[kumae]

They aren't mutually exclusive ...
The CoC users have greater will because they were born destined to be kings...You either are born with or without it ...

Armament & Observation on the other hand are not like CoC.

But it mainly depends of the user will and ambiion that's why we only have 16

Sanji is the least gifted..try compare D clan and Shimotsuki clan, whom both could very close related to world destiny, while Sanji, merely Germa product tho

How if Raid suit gives him exoesqueleton and special germa power like invisible speed

Picture this:

You are a random Marine

Your dream is to be the WSS.

Suddenly, beyond your training and hard-work, you get
-Conqueror's Haki (1 in one million power up)
-A great grade sword (1 in 50 in the world)
-2 years' Training From The World's Strongest Swordsman Himself, quite literally the best training any swordsmen could ever ask for
-2 years in lavish rich 5 star mansion
-A black blade

Is it any wonder how totally blessed and pampered Zolo has been?

....And none of this are free gifts depends if the user is well talented specially to wield sword

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

As kids, Sanji is the weakest of them. While Zoro is the strongest because he went to different dojos just to beat people up.

But Sanji progressed pretty nicely despite being a normal person.

Zoro is the least gifted but obviously he's not entirely not gifted as he got that Shimotsuki bloodline in him while Luffy is the most gifted.

BUT, all three of them earned their powers through training and that's all it matters.

 

[yj]

This is literally zoro prop, he may be the least genetically or divinely gifted but he’s for sure the most self made

 

[RyoQ]

But it mainly depends of the user will and ambiion that's why we only have 16

How if Raid suit gives him exoesqueleton and special germa power like invisible speed

....And none of this are free gifts depends if the user is well talented specially to wield sword

Getting CoC and being trained by the WSS isn't a free gift lol

Bullshit

 

[SaitamaSanji]

Picture this:

You are a random Marine

Your dream is to be the WSS.

Suddenly, beyond your training and hard-work, you get
-Conqueror's Haki (1 in one million power up)
-A great grade sword (1 in 50 in the world)
-2 years' Training From The World's Strongest Swordsman Himself, quite literally the best training any swordsmen could ever ask for
-2 years in lavish rich 5 star mansion
-A black blade

Is it any wonder how totally blessed and pampered Zolo has been?

Bugger even has Oden's haki through Enma as a free gift LMAO
Least gifted my ass lol