Powers & Abilities Is Zoro Cutting fire still happening?

When will the cutting fire come up?

  • In a flashback to Zou

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • During a random fight

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • During a fight with King

    Votes: 26 70.3%
  • During a fight with Kaido

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • It's an abandoned sub plot

    Votes: 4 10.8%

  • Total voters
    37
#1
Among the myriad of Plots in Wano, there's this one, Zoro cutting fire.

In case you've forgotten, this first comes up in Punk Hazard when Kin'emon first demonstrates the cutting fire technique and Zoro shows interest. Then at the end of the arc Zoro actually says he wants to learn how to do it.

Now we're knee deep in the arc And it's a bit unclear whether this is a plot point still being followed up on or not. Granted Oda could go the way of OFF SCREEN and say Zoro picked up on this during the time he was on Zou training Momo and the only reason we haven't seen this is because Zoro hasn't been in a situation where he needs to cut fire yet. This is possible but I feel it would be somewhat disappointing since Oda surprisingly has actually been getting into the nitty gritty of how certain powers work in this arc with the whole Advanced armament Haki and the breath of all things therefore it would be a missed opportunity not to show Zoro training in real time for this cutting fire technique in case it has to do with the Haki and such we are learning about now.

Basically what I'm getting at is that the arc is set up pretty well to explain all the weird swordmanship shenanigans that have been going on with Zoro from the breath of all things to the cursed swords to the black blades to maybe even Ashura and to maybe even Zoro producing flames that one time. Like with all this sword stuff on the horizon, it seems to be the best time for Zoro to learn a new sword technique and not have it be something he learned in a flashback off screen. Though maybe it's as I said before and Oda just wants this plot point to come back when the opportunity immediately requires it for dramatic effect. That is, when Zoro specfically needs to cut fire is when he'll like ask Kin'emon to teach him or just pull it off himself having seen Kin'emon do it a few times already.

And here's where Kaido and king come in since they are the fire users of the enemy side (Prometheus being MIA). This means Zoro has to fight these guys if the point of Zoro not bringing this up by now was for dramatic effect. Kaido's boro breath though might not be fire and it's the anime taking liberties but King is literally the Wildfire and of course he's the Right hand man swordsman of the enemy side so...

Anyway, I can say there's still things the working sort of supporting this plot point coming back up this arc so it might not just be an abandoned sub plot
 
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Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
#3
It would be a waste if it didnt happen...

Zoro already has a fire sword since he used the Wado to cut Ryuma down with blue flames. The fact that Zoro never addressed this is weird. The reason Zoro is tamming Enma is because of Wado so maybe he'll learn the real strength of that blade as well.
 
#4
It would be a waste if it didnt happen...

Zoro already has a fire sword since he used the Wado to cut Ryuma down with blue flames. The fact that Zoro never addressed this is weird. The reason Zoro is tamming Enma is because of Wado so maybe he'll learn the real strength of that blade as well.
He never used this dragon technique again right ?
 
#7
I don't think anymore that cursed sword have something special, even Enma has more likely a cursed ability than the cursed swords .
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I thought we will see more elements ability from the samuraies in wano but till now there's none even with 53 chapters in wano no one has shown anything even kinemon didn't use his style ,i hope oden show cuz if the strongest didn't then that's means it's not a big deal only side ability .


But the most logical reason why oda didn't introduce this with other samurai till now is cuz he want zoro to do it first
same with Busoshoku Haki after he did it against pica every swordman use it kinemon kanjiero fojitora etc
 
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stealthblack

#8
sure, if orochi can spit fire, then he can still cut fire. unless he takes on king of fire and cuts his fire.
 
#9
I don't think anymore that cursed sword have something special, even Enma has more likely a cursed ability than the cursed swords .
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I thought we will see more elements ability from the samuraies in wano but till now there's none even with 53 chapters in wano no one has shown anything even kinemon didn't use his style ,i hope oden show cuz if the strongest didn't then that's means it's not a big deal only side ability .


But the most logical reason why oda didn't introduce this with other samurai till now is cuz he want zoro to do it first
same with Busoshoku Haki after he did it against pica every swordman use it kinemon kanjiero fojitora etc
The cursed swords may not come up but the existence of nidai kitetsu and the person who literally created a cursed sword would surely necessitate further elaboration

Like I'm highly skeptical of Oda somehow not knowing that these weird abilities he keeps giving Zoro aren't Brought into question by fans... Like surely if he wanted the cursed swords to not be a thing, he wouldn't have reintroduced a person who actually created one... Like theres no way this guy wouldn't lead to people asking more about these sorts of things...

This cursed sword stuff in fact is the most sure plot point I expected at the start of Wano... Like by the end of act one, all we knew was that cursed swords and one of ts creators was in Wano... We had nothing on Zoro cutting fire, nothing on the breath of all things, nothig on black blades, nothing on Ashura, nothing on that Dragon slash he used to kill Ryuma.... the only part of the weird powers Zoro has that came up the cursed swords at the start of arc

And bit by bit Oda surprised us by explaining more of Zoro's powers so I don't think he'll not bring up cursed swords again
 
#12
The cursed swords may not come up but the existence of nidai kitetsu and the person who literally created a cursed sword would surely necessitate further elaboration

Like I'm highly skeptical of Oda somehow not knowing that these weird abilities he keeps giving Zoro aren't Brought into question by fans... Like surely if he wanted the cursed swords to not be a thing, he wouldn't have reintroduced a person who actually created one... Like theres no way this guy wouldn't lead to people asking more about these sorts of things...

This cursed sword stuff in fact is the most sure plot point I expected at the start of Wano... Like by the end of act one, all we knew was that cursed swords and one of ts creators was in Wano... We had nothing on Zoro cutting fire, nothing on the breath of all things, nothig on black blades, nothing on Ashura, nothing on that Dragon slash he used to kill Ryuma.... the only part of the weird powers Zoro has that came up the cursed swords at the start of arc

And bit by bit Oda surprised us by explaining more of Zoro's powers so I don't think he'll not bring up cursed swords again
Wierd abilities you means asura etc ?!
I hope there's an explanation ,but don't be surprised if there's none , same with sanji we thought the fire origin is from his father experiment but oda stated in sbs that it has no affect on sanji !!, so till now sanji fire has no explanation ?! Oda left like that !.
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End of act 1 ?! Luffy defeat?!
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But if really the cursed sword is the source of ahura i would really like that & it means zoro getting another cursed sword will be big power for ahura or new spirit technique.
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But hettsu saw zoro wildding sandai and didnt said anything about any power related to the cursed even with his knowledge about Enma &Black blade even he is the creator of sandai with long line of blacksmiths od cursed swords,he the only thing he said about sandai is that sandai is similar to Enma cant be wilded by the weak .


That's why i said cursed swords are not as special as want then to be .
 
#15
Wierd abilities you means asura etc ?!
I hope there's an explanation ,but don't be surprised if there's none , same with sanji we thought the fire origin is from his father experiment but oda stated in sbs that it has no affect on sanji !!, so till now sanji fire has no explanation ?! Oda left like that !.
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End of act 1 ?! Luffy defeat?!
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But if really the cursed sword is the source of ahura i would really like that & it means zoro getting another cursed sword will be big power for ahura or new spirit technique.
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But hettsu saw zoro wildding sandai and didnt said anything about any power related to the cursed even with his knowledge about Enma &Black blade even he is the creator of sandai with long line of blacksmiths od cursed swords,he the only thing he said about sandai is that sandai is similar to Enma cant be wilded by the weak .


That's why i said cursed swords are not as special as want then to be .
I don't believe cursed swords have powers or anything... its just that they are cursed so we should know how and why they are cursed is all... Like I don't think black blades have special powers either since we special enma a normal sword have weirder powers than Shusui and yet we are poised to learn what black blades are and how they are formed

I don't expect that these things will have huge impact on the plot but why make the distinction of "cursed" if there's not even explanation for it... at the very least it should get like one page telling us this is how cursed swords are made even if the curses don't actually affect Zoro

Also Sanji's fire powers were explained through normalization... its like how Zoro can lift buildings yet they tell us he's a normal human being and never have to explain why a human being can do that... Oda just made it that ALOT of people can also lift buldings... He just normal used Zoro's strength and so it didn't require an explanation

Same with Sanji, we just keep seeing more and more characters who have this spontaneous combustion ability and so it's now normalised in the world so doesn't need explanation.... I was hoping something similar would happen with Zoro's Ashura but nope, literally no one can just create illusions with their spirits... The closest to this is brook but we know that's his DF so again it still hasn't normalised Zoro's Ashura in the story so this still requires explanation
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Rosella.Fiamingo

Peerless In History
#16
I don't believe cursed swords have powers or anything... its just that they are cursed so we should know how and why they are cursed is all... Like I don't think black blades have special powers either since we special enma a normal sword have weirder powers than Shusui and yet we are poised to learn what black blades are and how they are formed

I don't expect that these things will have huge impact on the plot but why make the distinction of "cursed" if there's not even explanation for it... at the very least it should get like one page telling us this is how cursed swords are made even if the curses don't actually affect Zoro

Also Sanji's fire powers were explained through normalization... its like how Zoro can lift buildings yet they tell us he's a normal human being and never have to explain why a human being can do that... Oda just made it that ALOT of people can also lift buldings... He just normal used Zoro's strength and so it didn't require an explanation

Same with Sanji, we just keep seeing more and more characters who have this spontaneous combustion ability and so it's now normalised in the world so doesn't need explanation.... I was hoping something similar would happen with Zoro's Ashura but nope, literally no one can just create illusions with their spirits... The closest to this is brook but we know that's his DF so again it still hasn't normalised Zoro's Ashura in the story so this still requires explanation
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Yeah that... I guess it was scanlation error
Who else can combust
 
#20
Anyone else? I know Kata has a fire attack. But these are just attacks unlike Sanji where it’s a full on mode.
Whats the difference between them?

It's all spontaneous combustion right? Oda just chose to show it differently between characters to make a distinction for the sake of distinction

Also Rob Lucci and Doflamingo and Zoro and Hold'em and some other Big mom kids could all produce fire just like that

Unless you think there will be two different explanations for Sanji and then for everyone else then it's all the same and t doesn't matter since its a common enough thing to no longer be worth explaining
 
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