General & Others Is Zoro the vice-captain or close? Is he Lufy's right-hand man?

[Finalbeta]

Characters can have multiple parallels or counterparts in One Piece.

Yes am aware of that. Best example is Luffy being both Roger's and Shanks' parallel.

 

[Xione]

There is no 100%parallel in OP. Even Roger-Luffy doesnt add up to 100%.

Some traits of Luffy can be compared with Roger and his intial goal and parts of his personality.
Yet the guy who luffy has been directly compared to the most is none other than his own father.
While he seems to be a carbon copy of his grandfather in mannerisms.


Rayleigh and Zoro share the parrallel of the guy who is on par with the top pirate of the era, but served under him. They share a fairly similar personality, but not an exclusive personality. Zoro has an ambition of his own, that Rayleigh never showed.

Blackbeard and Xebec, the greatest enemies of the guy who will become the PK. Evil, gathered destructive individuals under them, etc etc. But unlike Xebec, Blackbeard is most likely going to fall in a 1v1. He could also be the big fight right before luffy becomes PK, which for Roger based on what we know was the Edd war against Shiki, rather than xebec.


So you have to be clear as to the specific parrallel that you're talking about related to the characters.

 

[Uncle Van]

That's a huge reach based on a title that was no relation to being the strongest fighter. Kaido recieved WSC while WB was regarded as the WSM. Letting us know straight up WSM has nothing to do with being the strongest fighter. Unless Whitebeard was playing catchup with Kaido?

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Everybody and their mothers were playing catchup to Roger. (Can add in Garp if you want).

When two people get highlighted as individuals who put the beating on the top pirate of the era + WB + Shiki +BM and more.. it's fairly clear who Oda is trying to put at the top of the hierarchy.

Not really. Databook said WB had his title during Roger's time. You'd have to assume Kaido got his title before 25+ years ago and his title is based on a rumor.

 

[Xione]

Not really. Databook said WB had his title during Roger's time. You'd have to assume Kaido got his title before 25+ years ago and his title is based on a rumor.

Whitebeard's era as the dominant guy on the seas started after Roger's passing. Kaido at the very least became renowned as the WSC in the past decade, in which WB was still considered the WSM. Thus, an overlapping of titles

Kaido's title is the same as WSM or WSS, all based on people acknowledging them as such. The rumor you're likely referring to "people say in 1on1" has no correlation with his title of WSC, even in the narration they weren't tied together.

Simply comes down to WSM and WSC having no correlation to being the strongest fighter. Rather having a correlation with the physical power of the individual.

 

[Finalbeta]

That's why Whitebeard was never actually in his prime before Roger died

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Like i said loose parallels and i did this in the qoute with wb and sanji. So is sanji parallel wb cuz
- both are blonde
- both will be respected by thier gens pk
- both were physical fighters.
- both liked girls
Name something of substance none of this is anything. Hell i can do this with brook
- both are swordsman
- both are on their gen pk crew
- both are fast
- both are perverts
These are loose parallels i can do with god damn brook. So brook is rayliegh parallel cuz i just come up with some stuff both have. Only real thing they gave is that both are swordsmen which ain't enough to parallel brook to rayliegh.

Yep

Anyone can parallel anyone

If you think Rayleigh is Zoro then you dreaming hard.
Rayleigh is a mix of Sanji Franky Zoro.

Luffy want his crew to surpass Shanks.
He will surpass Roger individually, his crew will surpass Shankd crew not Roger's!

Reread the story. Nowhere is there luffy trying to gain a crew above Roger's.

Luffy will have allies, that's why he will be even greater than roger

 

[Robin swan]

Yep

Anyone can parallel anyone

If you think Rayleigh is Zoro then you dreaming hard.
Rayleigh is a mix of Sanji Franky Zoro.

Luffy want his crew to surpass Shanks.
He will surpass Roger individually, his crew will surpass Shankd crew not Roger's!

Reread the story. Nowhere is there luffy trying to gain a crew above Roger's.

Luffy will have allies, that's why he will be even greater than roger

Yea this is done... Either you are trolling or you are just too far gone to reason with and neither are worth the time.

 

[Rmstorm]

Luffy will surpass Roger or be on his level
Zoro will surpass Rayleigh or be on his level.
Sanji will surpass Scobber Gaban
Jinbei will surpass Oden.

The rest of the crew will be way weaker than Rogers crew.

 

[Finalbeta]

Yep

Anyone can parallel anyone

If you think Rayleigh is Zoro then you dreaming hard.
Rayleigh is a mix of Sanji Franky Zoro.

Luffy want his crew to surpass Shanks.
He will surpass Roger individually, his crew will surpass Shankd crew not Roger's!

Reread the story. Nowhere is there luffy trying to gain a crew above Roger's.

Luffy will have allies, that's why he will be even greater than roger

How can anyone parallel anyone

 

[trav]

Aibo. period.
Luffy is Roger, Zoro is Rayleigh.

this should not be new to anyone with a functioning brain.

 

[nik87]

Aibo. period.
Luffy is Roger, Zoro is Rayleigh.
this should not be new to anyone with a functioning brain.

Or
Luffy is Luffy and Zoro is Zoro. They have similarities with Roger and Rayleigh but they are far from their copies.

 

[Finalbeta]

Yeah parallel doesn't necessarily mean that might get nigh equal. It might just be a strong particular even.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Noodle added franky to the mix for coating ships

 

[Xione]

Luffy will surpass Roger or be on his level
Zoro will surpass Rayleigh or be on his level.
Sanji will surpass Scobber Gaban
Jinbei will surpass Oden.

The rest of the crew will be way weaker than Rogers crew.

Oden was not the jinbei of the Roger pirates.. lol.

Oden was an apprentice on Roger's crew.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Oden was not the jinbei of the Roger pirates.. lol.

Oden was an apprentice on Roger's crew.

Wasn't he a grown ass man?

 

[Rmstorm]

Oden was not the jinbei of the Roger pirates.. lol.

Oden was an apprentice on Roger's crew.

What you are saying does not add up. Oden was a commander for Whitebeard before joining Roger's crew.

So he cannot have been an apprentice on Roger's crew. He was also between age 30- 33 on Rogers ship.

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Yea this is done... Either you are trolling or you are just too far gone to reason with and neither are worth the time.

Luffy " I will gain a crew superior to yours one day" to Shanks.

You " jo Ndule is trolling"

 

[Xione]

What you are saying does not add up. Oden was a commander for Whitebeard before joining Roger's crew.

So he cannot have been an apprentice on Roger's crew. He was also between age 30- 33 on Rogers ship.

Oden was with the Roger pirates for the last voyage, which is about 3-4 years max of time with the crew like Crocus. By that time Roger pirates were already established as a crew, Oden is not going to end up being their Jinbei, when he simply tagged along for the final voyage.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

I don't know if the similarities fans. Mentioned enough to define Zoro as Ray parallel like Luffy is to Roger and it doesn't really matter for me if they are.

But watching those eps i felt like Rayleigh was more of Zoro + Sanji than any of em individually, back in Saboady arc. Further he served as Luffy Teacher in the TS, so there's more to Rayleigh than just being parallel.
That is my opinion on this.

 

[Xione]

Wasn't he a grown ass man?

He was, he's near the same age as Borsalino. But Roger had near 20 years on him age wise, so a kid when compared to the OGs of the crew.