Character Discussion Is Zoro vs King a good narrative?

[serkeara]

Before

• Zoro has declared a very clear objective to cut down Kaido
• He sees Queen as a nobody
• He ignored Luffy command and went straight to the roof to fight Kaido
• He definitely has a better feat than Kids, Killer, and Law on the roof
• No build up between Zoro and King

Now

• Zoro focuses on fighting King
• He seems to give up going back to Kaido
• While, Kid & Law fight Big Mom

I think it would make sense if Zoro vs King before Kaido, which help him polish his skills or Enma.
But now, I don't see the point of him fighting King.

What do you think? see the poll.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Characters don't need to have narrative connection between each other to justify fights. If they do, that's a good reason to have them, but not having them doesn't mean anything.

Sanji vs Jabra had no narrative connection
Franky vs Sasaki didn't either
Zoro vs Pica didn't either

There are plenty of examples of this. This has nothing to do with "writing"

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

I think it would make sense if Zoro vs King before Kaido, which help him polish his skills or Enma.

indeed, which is why it makes sense for zoro to fight kaido again after he beat king

 

[nik87]

It always made sense because nobody else can beat King.

 

[Weeman]

It makes as much narrative sense as Zoro VS any other second strongest henchmen he's fought so far.

 

[Akagaminoproduction]

To be concise: I dont like zoro vs king but I think its necessary

 

[Garp the Fist]

It should have happened before he fought Kaido as a training fight for him to learn to cut fire, use Enma, maybe even get CoC first there.

That couldn’t happen because the timing of Zoro vs King needs to fit in with what is happening everywhere else in the arc, but it has left it a lot less… dramatic than it should be.

It’s a bit like a glorified Law vs Trebol tbh. Way more exciting than that, King is still Kaido’s right hand man, but a similar sort of anti-climax to go from fighting the arc boss down to fighting the flunky. It’s better to keep escalating the threat up imo.

Can it be rectified? Certainly, I really do think there’s a really interesting story about Kaido and the formation of the Beast Pirates coming up. My concern for that we’ll only see it after Zoro has beaten King.

And one big thing in it’s favour- it should be a better drawn fight than the rooftop, following the Robin, Franky and Jinbei fights.

 

[Hanners220]

I like that Oda is dropping lore during Zoro's fight with King. I just don't understand why he wrote the roof top fight first. I am interested in seeing whether or not Zoro will make a black blade during his fight with King.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

• He seems to give up going back to Kaido
• While, Kid & Law fight Big Mom

ZKK and Kid & Law combined still didnt do a shit to Bigmom what halfdead Zoro did to Yonkos at rooftop

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Zoro feats is feats
I don’t give a fuck
He Killin Kaido in a bit anyways

 

[kumae]

ZKK didn't die btw
I like zoro vs king aYC1 stronger than marco he can put zoro in high/extreme match besides is giving me alabasta vibes with the killer machine

 

[Patryipe]

It always made sense because nobody else can beat King.

Indeed

Nobody else could take care of the King of the dome.

 

[Finalbeta]

I would say it fits the narrative of Marco declaring (implicating) how the new gen had to deal with this war overall, and also it could have Zoro warm up before taking on Kaido again perhaps by further increase his power to some extent.

 

[Rivaille]

No there is no good narrative behind Zoro vs King. Which is sad but it is what it is

 

[Ace]

There in a war.

No other reason for Zoro to fight the second strongest Beast Pirate

 

[JyThony]

We're going to finally see Zoro pushed to his limits in a 1v1. Also it just looks cool, no other reason is needed tbh.

 

[serkeara]

Characters don't need to have narrative connection between each other to justify fights. If they do, that's a good reason to have them, but not having them doesn't mean anything.

For the fights you gave example, those protagonists' main goal is to save the country or help Luffy win. It makes sense they fought whatever enemy in front of them.

But if Sanji hold a grudge against Lucci and declared he wanted to beat Lucci, then he gave up and fought Jabra instead. That will be weird and counter narrative that has been built. This kind of situation even worse for Zoro, who typically pride and badass.

 

[Just a member]

What I don't like at all is the medicine plot device but at this point I don't even care afterall.

 

[Zowo]

No there is no good narrative behind Zoro vs King. Which is sad but it is what it is

cry

 

[Paperchampion23]

For the fights you gave example, those protagonists' main goal is to save the country or help Luffy win. It makes sense they fought whatever enemy in front of them.

But if Sanji hold a grudge against Lucci and declared he wanted to beat Lucci, then he gave up and fought Jabra instead. That will be weird and counter narrative that has been built. This kind of situation even worse for Zoro, who typically pride and badass.

Literally Zoro vs King is your first paragraph. And if Sanji gave up on Lucci I would entirely agree because it was Luffys fight to begin with.

Zoro needing to be "badass" is your own biased prerogative for the character. And his portrayal with King has been great so far and far better drawn than his fight Kaido so