Speculations It's Brook! (In Front of Zoro, and who the Gorosei were talking about.)
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Another thing I found that I think is interesting that I want to put out there is another scenario we were shown on Thriller Bark.
In Zoro's fight against Ryuma, Oda did something pretty uncharacteristic at the time. He did a fake out by showing Zoro presumably losing the fight, and then proceeded to show what actually transpired soon thereafter.
The thing that strikes me the most interesting is how the scene actually plays out. It starts off by showing Zoro falling off the rooftop to the ground, and then switches to Ryuma standing atop the roof above Zoro, while shrouded in smoke.
Here we have a similar situation with Zoro laying on the ground, and Skeletal figure standing above Zoro, shrouded in smoke. The issue is, is that we don't know what transpired prior to this scene. Much like how Oda started off the fight against Zoro vs Ryuma. We didn't find out until after the fact.
The last we saw of Brook and Robin was well before Zoro and King's fight finished. We know that CP-0 was stalled from pursuing them, and we have no clue where they ended up in that timeframe. This is something Oda can rectify in a mini flashback, which would once again be reminiscent of Zoro's battle with Ryuma on Thriller Bark.
And here's the kicker. What so happens to be occupying Ryuma's body at the time, causing him to be animated? Brooks shadow.
In Zoro's fight against Ryuma, Oda did something pretty uncharacteristic at the time. He did a fake out by showing Zoro presumably losing the fight, and then proceeded to show what actually transpired soon thereafter.
The thing that strikes me the most interesting is how the scene actually plays out. It starts off by showing Zoro falling off the rooftop to the ground, and then switches to Ryuma standing atop the roof above Zoro, while shrouded in smoke.
Here we have a similar situation with Zoro laying on the ground, and Skeletal figure standing above Zoro, shrouded in smoke. The issue is, is that we don't know what transpired prior to this scene. Much like how Oda started off the fight against Zoro vs Ryuma. We didn't find out until after the fact.
The last we saw of Brook and Robin was well before Zoro and King's fight finished. We know that CP-0 was stalled from pursuing them, and we have no clue where they ended up in that timeframe. This is something Oda can rectify in a mini flashback, which would once again be reminiscent of Zoro's battle with Ryuma on Thriller Bark.
And here's the kicker. What so happens to be occupying Ryuma's body at the time, causing him to be animated? Brooks shadow.
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I appreciate the effort but dont like the theory.
Firstly, the ability to stop death is too broken and too convenient. If Brook can stop death here, he should be able to stop death in the future too. That basically makes the strawhats immortal and reduce the sense of danger.
Secondly, Gorosei talking about Brook's fruit would be anticlimactic. It makes more sense to me if they were talking about gomu gomu no mi. Luffy will need more power ups to beat Kaido. Its safe to assume awakening will be one of those powerups for Luffy when Kidd & Law already showed it against Big Mom.
Firstly, the ability to stop death is too broken and too convenient. If Brook can stop death here, he should be able to stop death in the future too. That basically makes the strawhats immortal and reduce the sense of danger.
Secondly, Gorosei talking about Brook's fruit would be anticlimactic. It makes more sense to me if they were talking about gomu gomu no mi. Luffy will need more power ups to beat Kaido. Its safe to assume awakening will be one of those powerups for Luffy when Kidd & Law already showed it against Big Mom.
It would be too broken if Oda created such an ability without limitations, but that's not really his style.
And I mean, it completely fits the concept of awakening. If Brooks fruit allowed him to revive himself once, then the same principle should be applied to his awakening, where it affects those around him. What else could his awakening possibly be, based on the premise of his fruit?
Not to mention, like I stated earlier in the thread, you have a character like Lao G, who died on the battlefield, and pulled his own soul back into his body. He did that without some kind of broken devil fruit. So the concept of placing a soul back into ones body has been touched upon with two separate instances. One involving a Devil Fruit, and one without.
As far as it being anticlimactic, I don't think so. Brook so far has just.... Been there.... Oda has done nothing to incorporate him into the grander scheme of the Straw Hats adventure, thus far. By Oda giving him a Devil Fruit that even has the Gorosei sweating, it opens up the flood gates to where Oda can place his character into all of this. The Straw Hats all meeting, and coming together is 100 percent linked by fate. They are all meant to be the Pirates that Roger has been waiting for, as first stated by Crocus way back during the Twin Capes. Brooks role needs to be established, and in my opinion, this could be the ammo to do just that.
And I mean, it completely fits the concept of awakening. If Brooks fruit allowed him to revive himself once, then the same principle should be applied to his awakening, where it affects those around him. What else could his awakening possibly be, based on the premise of his fruit?
Not to mention, like I stated earlier in the thread, you have a character like Lao G, who died on the battlefield, and pulled his own soul back into his body. He did that without some kind of broken devil fruit. So the concept of placing a soul back into ones body has been touched upon with two separate instances. One involving a Devil Fruit, and one without.
As far as it being anticlimactic, I don't think so. Brook so far has just.... Been there.... Oda has done nothing to incorporate him into the grander scheme of the Straw Hats adventure, thus far. By Oda giving him a Devil Fruit that even has the Gorosei sweating, it opens up the flood gates to where Oda can place his character into all of this. The Straw Hats all meeting, and coming together is 100 percent linked by fate. They are all meant to be the Pirates that Roger has been waiting for, as first stated by Crocus way back during the Twin Capes. Brooks role needs to be established, and in my opinion, this could be the ammo to do just that.
This is completely inline with what the Gorosei were saying about this mysterious Devil Fruit that hasn't "Awakened in decades", because even though Brook had the fruit for 50 years, he still couldn't do shit with it, other than revive once.
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it was said it was not awakened in last few centuries not decades.
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it was said it was not awakened in last few centuries not decades.
So lets bring up a couple more interesting things.
On Thriller Bark, Zoro fought Ryuma. Ryuma's nickname was "King".
Here on Wano. Zoro just finished his fight with "King".
On Thriller Bark, Zoro stepped in to fight "Ryuma the King" in order for him to get Brook's shadow back for him.
Now here on Wano, Zoro is faced with a "Grim Reaper" who is seemingly about to take his soul, as that is the job of the Grim Reaper, is to guide the souls of the dead.
Brook is the "Soul" King. If Zoro is faced with the possibility of losing his soul, then it makes perfect sense that Brook will be the one to stop it, and get Zoro back his soul, much like Zoro was the one to get Brooks shadow back for him on Thriller Bark.
I'll even compromise with those who are adamant that Brook is not the Grim Reaper we see, and say that it is possible that it is truly in fact the actual Grim Reaper in front of Zoro, but Brook will be the one to get Zoro's soul back from it. Thus it will complete the inversion of this situation, with the Ryuma situation on Thriller Bark.
Zoro got Brooks shadow back.
Brook will get Zoro's soul back.
On Thriller Bark, Zoro fought Ryuma. Ryuma's nickname was "King".
Here on Wano. Zoro just finished his fight with "King".
On Thriller Bark, Zoro stepped in to fight "Ryuma the King" in order for him to get Brook's shadow back for him.
Now here on Wano, Zoro is faced with a "Grim Reaper" who is seemingly about to take his soul, as that is the job of the Grim Reaper, is to guide the souls of the dead.
Brook is the "Soul" King. If Zoro is faced with the possibility of losing his soul, then it makes perfect sense that Brook will be the one to stop it, and get Zoro back his soul, much like Zoro was the one to get Brooks shadow back for him on Thriller Bark.
I'll even compromise with those who are adamant that Brook is not the Grim Reaper we see, and say that it is possible that it is truly in fact the actual Grim Reaper in front of Zoro, but Brook will be the one to get Zoro's soul back from it. Thus it will complete the inversion of this situation, with the Ryuma situation on Thriller Bark.
Zoro got Brooks shadow back.
Brook will get Zoro's soul back.
YOHOHOHO
