Current Events It's confirmed, Wano won't be easy victory for Luffy side

Tyki_Mikk

Tyki_Mikk

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Tejas said:
Forget that we haven't seen Awakened King, Queen, and Jack. We haven't seen Awakened *Kaido*. Or even if any of the Tobiroppo can do it.
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@MarineHQ62 , @Sentinel , @TheAncientCenturion
Greg is very close to Oda, he even can´t post theory on his own who are close to the orginal story, he show it first Oda and the editors and they decide if he gonna post it or not because of spoiler warning.
Greg saying "we haven´t seens Awakened King,Queen and Jack" literally hint a big fact that he probably knows that all Calamity having awakened. And look what he saying here: We haven´t seen"....
Seen, it could mean the Awakened form is indeed a new and strong form for Zoans, in that case Jack not only show his hybrid form but he also have his awakened form who could be similar like monster point chopper.


With the fact that Greg know manystuffs before we even see them and he beeing close to Oda, I could imagine these words as big hints.
In the fact that Inu and Neko already using sulong against Zoan Jack as their trumpcard, showing you that Jack could take the W in this battle. Let say Greg "hint" is right and Jack kinda get a new form(awakened) with make him twice stronger then his hybrid form, I could imagine the battle against the sulong like this:

Jack get beaten up in his mammoth form>he switch to hybrid and show new skills against both Sulong, he kinda match them>Sulong Inu and Neko using their final attack>Jack seems be down but he then use awakened Zoan who is also the first shown awakened zoan in the manga>Jack beat both Sulong Inu and Neko....

Also he even hint that the Tobi Roppo could use awakening, in that case my prediction who could have it:
WsW/Drake/Sasaki(probably if he face Jinbe later).

Overall seeing Greg saying something like this hype me kinda more for Jack and the other beast pirates, this could became very insane soon.
 
TheAncientCenturion

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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playa4321 said:
@MarineHQ62 , @Sentinel , @TheAncientCenturion
Greg is very close to Oda, he even can´t post theory on his own who are close to the orginal story, he show it first Oda and the editors and they decide if he gonna post it or not because of spoiler warning.
Greg saying "we haven´t seens Awakened King,Queen and Jack" literally hint a big fact that he probably knows that all Calamity having awakened. And look what he saying here: We haven´t seen"....
Seen, it could mean the Awakened form is indeed a new and strong form for Zoans, in that case Jack not only show his hybrid form but he also have his awakened form who could be similar like monster point chopper.


With the fact that Greg know manystuffs before we even see them and he beeing close to Oda, I could imagine these words as big hints.
In the fact that Inu and Neko already using sulong against Zoan Jack as their trumpcard, showing you that Jack could take the W in this battle. Let say Greg "hint" is right and Jack kinda get a new form(awakened) with make him twice stronger then his hybrid form, I could imagine the battle against the sulong like this:

Jack get beaten up in his mammoth form>he switch to hybrid and show new skills against both Sulong, he kinda match them>Sulong Inu and Neko using their final attack>Jack seems be down but he then use awakened Zoan who is also the first shown awakened zoan in the manga>Jack beat both Sulong Inu and Neko....

Also he even hint that the Tobi Roppo could use awakening, in that case my prediction who could have it:
WsW/Drake/Sasaki(probably if he face Jinbe later).

Overall seeing Greg saying something like this hype me kinda more for Jack and the other beast pirates, this could became very insane soon.
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Dude, if Awakening is its own form, then the Calamities outclass the Sweet Commanders. if the Tobi Roppo have their own awakened forms, Jesus they might beat Cracker.
 
Tyki_Mikk

Tyki_Mikk

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TheAncientCenturion said:
Dude, if Awakening is its own form, then the Calamities outclass the Sweet Commanders. if the Tobi Roppo have their own awakened forms, Jesus they might beat Cracker.
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Lol he even said it when some user said that awakened not beeing a form:
That's incorrect. Chopper's Monster Point is awakened. The guards of Impel Down are also awakened and there's a clear give-away, their hooves or nails becoming dark projections. This remains true thus far for all but chihuahua.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1305519292746625024

He literally confirm my theory with this!!!
Bye bye Sulong Inu and Neko, if Jack pulling out awakening together with the flying six, god save the alliance then.
Don´t wanna start even with King,Queen or fucking Kaido, let alone none of these even use their hybrid forms xD
 
Buusatan94

Buusatan94

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playa4321 said:
@MarineHQ62 , @Sentinel , @TheAncientCenturion
Greg is very close to Oda, he even can´t post theory on his own who are close to the orginal story, he show it first Oda and the editors and they decide if he gonna post it or not because of spoiler warning.
Greg saying "we haven´t seens Awakened King,Queen and Jack" literally hint a big fact that he probably knows that all Calamity having awakened. And look what he saying here: We haven´t seen"....
Seen, it could mean the Awakened form is indeed a new and strong form for Zoans, in that case Jack not only show his hybrid form but he also have his awakened form who could be similar like monster point chopper.


With the fact that Greg know manystuffs before we even see them and he beeing close to Oda, I could imagine these words as big hints.
In the fact that Inu and Neko already using sulong against Zoan Jack as their trumpcard, showing you that Jack could take the W in this battle. Let say Greg "hint" is right and Jack kinda get a new form(awakened) with make him twice stronger then his hybrid form, I could imagine the battle against the sulong like this:

Jack get beaten up in his mammoth form>he switch to hybrid and show new skills against both Sulong, he kinda match them>Sulong Inu and Neko using their final attack>Jack seems be down but he then use awakened Zoan who is also the first shown awakened zoan in the manga>Jack beat both Sulong Inu and Neko....

Also he even hint that the Tobi Roppo could use awakening, in that case my prediction who could have it:
WsW/Drake/Sasaki(probably if he face Jinbe later).

Overall seeing Greg saying something like this hype me kinda more for Jack and the other beast pirates, this could became very insane soon.
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That's cool but after seeing actually Awakened Zoans I wouldn't say that it is really such a terrifying physical boost outside of endurance and recovery rate.
 
Tyki_Mikk

Tyki_Mikk

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playa4321 said:
Lol he even said it when some user said that awakened not beeing a form:
That's incorrect. Chopper's Monster Point is awakened. The guards of Impel Down are also awakened and there's a clear give-away, their hooves or nails becoming dark projections. This remains true thus far for all but chihuahua.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1305519292746625024

He literally confirm my theory with this!!!
Bye bye Sulong Inu and Neko, if Jack pulling out awakening together with the flying six, god save the alliance then.
Don´t wanna start even with King,Queen or fucking Kaido, let alone none of these even use their hybrid forms xD
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My though for the impel down beast:
Probably via Vegapunk experiment they learn awakening, but far less stronger and with the negative point they cannot transform back anymore, they always stay in that beast form.
In that case they get high recover+physical+speed power, but less then a awakenend user as Chopper who use a trick to get monster point. Im sure the awakened form of Jack and the other calamity if not even flyers gonna be mad insane.
 
Owl Ki

Owl Ki

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Fujishiro said:
Yes but, Croc was weaker physically than luffy, lucci was about on par, just a bit stronger and base luffy made him bleed and forced him into hybrid and lucci did not one shot him, at all. Luffy was fine and dandy, just stuck between buildings. Moriah used his fruit. Kaido overwhelmed him at his forte, physical strength, and to an extreme degree. Thats the difference.
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Hmmm, fair enough point. To clarify, I am not in favour of Luffy soloing Kaido as that would be pretty weird since Kaido is supposed to be the strongest and all. I just do think it 100% impossible.

Luffy has learned this new suped up haki gimmick that can allow even Mid Tiers like the Scabbards to injure Base Kaido. Combine that with a potential devil fruit awakening and yeah, I can see a possible Luffy 1v1 against a Yonko if Oda so desires it. Not advisable but not impossible.

I expect that it will end up a Supernova gang bang vs Kaido deal. Nobody ever said bet on Kaido in a 4v1. :kappa:
 
kurwa

kurwa

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Why raid will fail:
  • Caribou is unused (will probably be used as a vessel to store the alliance survivors and escape with him)
  • Tama's powers are not used against BP (will probably be used to gain new allies for part 2 raid)
  • Usopp being tortured plot
  • RS doesn't have a new design
  • Kaido hinted that the base of operation will be flower capital (that's probably where raid part 2 will take place)
  • No Yamato and Ace backstory (will probably be told after raid fail)
  • Nidai is not used (Zolo will probably get nidai for raid part 2)
Why raid will not fail:
  • 5yrs left, and there's still a huge power gap between Luffy and Yonko/Admirals. He needs to be at the power lvl in 3yrs where he can one shot YC.
 
Shelpe_03

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Luffy can't take down Katakuri my friends. But ı don't have a idea about new haki technique. It's a nice power-up. Maybe Luffy can beat Katakuri with it.

So I mean Luffy's level is about Katakuri.

Until he takes down Kaido. ;)
 
Fujishiro

Fujishiro

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Owl Ki said:
Hmmm, fair enough point. To clarify, I am not in favour of Luffy soloing Kaido as that would be pretty weird since Kaido is supposed to be the strongest and all. I just do think it 100% impossible.

Luffy has learned this new suped up haki gimmick that can allow even Mid Tiers like the Scabbards to injure Base Kaido. Combine that with a potential devil fruit awakening and yeah, I can see a possible Luffy 1v1 against a Yonko if Oda so desires it. Not advisable but not impossible.

I expect that it will end up a Supernova gang bang vs Kaido deal. Nobody ever said bet on Kaido in a 4v1. :kappa:
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Well injuring is fine but the amount of injury is whats important. Kaido still has top tier base stats if not more, while luffy can hurt him now, how much of that will he be ablle to do? half the scabbards are high tiers btw, the dukes/denjiro/Ahura are in the yc range imo, and they didnt do much with their combined attack, so anyways, ill wait and see tbh.
Yeah, imo its gonna be Sns vs him with the marines coming in and dealing with bm, maybe Fuji/Ryokugyu comes in and fights her.
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kurwa said:
Why raid will fail:
  • Caribou is unused (will probably be used as a vessel to store the alliance survivors and escape with him)
  • Tama's powers are not used against BP (will probably be used to gain new allies for part 2 raid)
  • Usopp being tortured plot
  • RS doesn't have a new design
  • Kaido hinted that the base of operation will be flower capital (that's probably where raid part 2 will take place)
  • No Yamato and Ace backstory (will probably be told after raid fail)
  • Nidai is not used (Zolo will probably get nidai for raid part 2)
Why raid will not fail:
  • 5yrs left, and there's still a huge power gap between Luffy and Yonko/Admirals. He needs to be at the power lvl in 3yrs where he can one shot YC.
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You seem to misunderstand the 5 years thing, Oda clarified it, its 5 years left till luffys journey to pk ends, not One piece.
 
Uncle Van

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
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The biggest problem is still Oda's "save it for later" style. So much off panelling for the big stuff while the minor characters and events take center stage. Even minor things like the abilities of certain characters are saved for later. Wano is a build up faze within a build up faze, withing a build up faze. Its making lots of people bored.
 
Monkey D. Luffy

Monkey D. Luffy

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Confirmed? It's obvious since WCI. Katakuri and Cracker will be Zoro and Sanji's next wall. The four veterans are the level the weaker six must surpass. Then there's the stuff Mr. Morj rambled about: act three is when everyone's screwed and beating Kaido in front of an audience.
 
Shiroyru

Shiroyru

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Bogard said:
Damn we could already feel it from full zoan Jack already annihilating a country of warriors(without Inu / Neko) in their most powerful form(Sulong), and he still has hybrid, let alone awakening. The calamity wank will be insane :steef:
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The people saying YCs are significantly below Admirals are gonna cry. There’s a reason why YC3 Jack managed to sink half of Doffy’s escort fleet despite him fighting an Admiral, former Fleet Admiral, a legendary VA, and 2 other VAs
 
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