What? Really? Vergo blocked Sanji's kick, even didn't send Sanji flying, and Sanji cracked his leg. P1 attack was far stronger than that, even Sanji admitted that. This was not Daifuku attack, but pure damage. Now I'm not sure if Sanji would be able to continue the fight after that attack, so it's depends on plot. Also don't forget that better durability always means stronger attacks, case hight durability means less pay back after hit with your leg or arm. Like imagine boxing without boxer gloves, I'm sure that your hands will be damaged for every strong hit. Same thing here, RS boost damage in many ways. And for now P1 is at the very minimum equal to Sanji without RS.
Future Events It's now clear that Sanji is way stronger than Page One
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Zoro didn't beat Hawkins ran, they said Zoro need to save Tama when there is Luffy and mount. Luffy already set going alone in the first place. Zoro should just drop from the mount wnd fight Hawkins
Sanji was minding what Law has told not creating trouble and Sanji still go and fight because he cannot stand women suffering, fight in disguise, stop Page One rampaging, Page One who not is injured like you said not continuing finding Osaba Mask at bath house, it was Hawkin and Drake, Why is that.
Sanji fight in disguise to save that women and still maintaining secrecy. It just one side fanboying. Always have excused for Zoro. Zoro doesn't need to runaway Luffy is there to save Tama. Is Luffy job from the start.
Sanji was minding what Law has told not creating trouble and Sanji still go and fight because he cannot stand women suffering, fight in disguise, stop Page One rampaging, Page One who not is injured like you said not continuing finding Osaba Mask at bath house, it was Hawkin and Drake, Why is that.
Sanji fight in disguise to save that women and still maintaining secrecy. It just one side fanboying. Always have excused for Zoro. Zoro doesn't need to runaway Luffy is there to save Tama. Is Luffy job from the start.
what do you mean?
Maybe base means Sanji without using Haki or DJ even 
Tho base Sanji still blitzed Oven and fucked up his neck and stopped Daifuku's giant geenies halberd.
I'd put Daifuku and Oven a bit over Page One at this point to be honest
Tho base Sanji still blitzed Oven and fucked up his neck and stopped Daifuku's giant geenies halberd.
I'd put Daifuku and Oven a bit over Page One at this point to be honest
And Ulti only takes Luffy to gear4 in a 2x1 in which she gets an opening to grab Luffy, and then Luffy needs to go to gear4 to expand his muscles and get out of her attack.
That doesn't mean anything on the scale of power, base Sanji would defeat Pageone, the RS only served a purpose of hiding his identity and winning quickly without getting hurt (in Sanji's own words)
I'd put Daifuku and Oven a bit over Page One at this point to be honest
Vergo was the one kicking not Sanji.
Well we have Sanji without the RS getting sent flying backwards by Daifuku without hurting his leg.
I'm pretty sure Sanji can continue fighting after crashing through a few buildings. That's not such a crazy scale to think that it would do serious harm.
I don't think we've ever seen the most of Sanji without the RS to say that. Like back in FI he was getting comparable portrayal to Jimbe, Oda drawing parallels between their attacks in more than one ocasion. Sanji without the RS blitzed Oven, and stopped the huge Genie that was towering over the Sunny when he attacked with the gigantic halberd. He stopped Big Mom's homie enhanced attack alongside Luffy's G3.
He'd have to use some strong attacks since Page One can take a beating pretty well, but i'm confident that Sanji would win even without the RS in an all out, end of the arc type battle.
I would give the edge to Daifuku and Oven because of their experience. Like i think that how young Ulti and Page One are also plays a role for why they could join the F6, their potential matters as well.
I think Page One and Ulti will be stronger than Oven and Daifuku after they grow a little, but are right now slightly weaker due to their lack of experience and maturity.
Well we have Sanji without the RS getting sent flying backwards by Daifuku without hurting his leg.
I'm pretty sure Sanji can continue fighting after crashing through a few buildings. That's not such a crazy scale to think that it would do serious harm.
I don't think we've ever seen the most of Sanji without the RS to say that. Like back in FI he was getting comparable portrayal to Jimbe, Oda drawing parallels between their attacks in more than one ocasion. Sanji without the RS blitzed Oven, and stopped the huge Genie that was towering over the Sunny when he attacked with the gigantic halberd. He stopped Big Mom's homie enhanced attack alongside Luffy's G3.
He'd have to use some strong attacks since Page One can take a beating pretty well, but i'm confident that Sanji would win even without the RS in an all out, end of the arc type battle.
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I would give the edge to Daifuku and Oven because of their experience. Like i think that how young Ulti and Page One are also plays a role for why they could join the F6, their potential matters as well.
I think Page One and Ulti will be stronger than Oven and Daifuku after they grow a little, but are right now slightly weaker due to their lack of experience and maturity.
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When Sanji and Page One had a physical clash,Page One was the superior.
Oda's affiliates(anime) showed Sanji being unable of make his words reality and used his invisibility to run away like a bitch.
Kaido shows to respect Page One and the subdivision he belongs to so much as he does with the All-Stars,while he thinks of Doflamingo as a big weakling,a character immensely powerful and who turns Sanji into human crap when compared to.
Is showed that even Luffy,who not need be serious to humiliate Sanji,can't injure Page One without use his full power.
No. There is no reason to put Sanji above Page One.
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After the latest chapter two things have become clear :
1. Sanji is a fighter of a different caliber when compared to Page One
2. Calamity level opponents will be required as his end of the arc opponents
Why is this clear now ? Well to understand this we need to understand the type of dynamic Sanji and Usopp have and how they perceive each other in terms of the strength difference between the two.
This is Usopp after encountering Sanji's end of the arc opponent in Alabasta. He was defeated in seconds, and by the end of the arc Sanji defeats Mr.2 and recovers Usopp's goggles.
This is Usopp after encountering Sanji's end of the arc opponent in EL. Once again Usopp can not put up a fight, and he feels worthless after Sanji saves him.
Both Sanji and Usopp are painfully aware of the chasm that separates the two in terms of strength. Sanji helps Usopp out not by lying to him and saying that he could have done something against Jabra, but by telling him that even if he can't defeat Jabra, even if he's not strong enough to fight an opponent that can properly entertain Sanji in combat, there are other thngs that Usopp can do that Sanji can not outside of 1 vs 1 combat.
Now fast forward in Wano we have Usopp witness Sanji fight Page One in the Flower Capital
and yet he is confident enough to make himself Page One's target at Onigashima
and Sanji is confident enough that Usopp can take Page One on
that he and Nami can stand up to Ulti and Page One, which doubles up the stakes since if Sanji would doubt Usopp here for a second he'd jump in to protect Nami in his place.
It's now safe to say that Sanji vs Page One was indeed merely a test run for the RS, where he was taking it way easy and only experimenting with it's features. F6 level opponents are not serious threats to RS Sanji, and his opponent going forward needs to be at least Top YC level.
1. Sanji is a fighter of a different caliber when compared to Page One
2. Calamity level opponents will be required as his end of the arc opponents
Why is this clear now ? Well to understand this we need to understand the type of dynamic Sanji and Usopp have and how they perceive each other in terms of the strength difference between the two.
This is Usopp after encountering Sanji's end of the arc opponent in Alabasta. He was defeated in seconds, and by the end of the arc Sanji defeats Mr.2 and recovers Usopp's goggles.
This is Usopp after encountering Sanji's end of the arc opponent in EL. Once again Usopp can not put up a fight, and he feels worthless after Sanji saves him.
Both Sanji and Usopp are painfully aware of the chasm that separates the two in terms of strength. Sanji helps Usopp out not by lying to him and saying that he could have done something against Jabra, but by telling him that even if he can't defeat Jabra, even if he's not strong enough to fight an opponent that can properly entertain Sanji in combat, there are other thngs that Usopp can do that Sanji can not outside of 1 vs 1 combat.
Now fast forward in Wano we have Usopp witness Sanji fight Page One in the Flower Capital
and yet he is confident enough to make himself Page One's target at Onigashima
and Sanji is confident enough that Usopp can take Page One on
that he and Nami can stand up to Ulti and Page One, which doubles up the stakes since if Sanji would doubt Usopp here for a second he'd jump in to protect Nami in his place.
It's now safe to say that Sanji vs Page One was indeed merely a test run for the RS, where he was taking it way easy and only experimenting with it's features. F6 level opponents are not serious threats to RS Sanji, and his opponent going forward needs to be at least Top YC level.
