General & Others Jack should have been Kaido's YC1

#23
King and Queen are much better characters. Jack is just a goon. The little brother complex could've worked to make him more interesting, but Oda was content at leaving him as a stepping stone for other characters.
They are not much better characters
Oda didn't know what to do with them

He sacrificed Jack in order ti hype them and still both didn't deserve to be calamities
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
#24
Oda didn't know what to do with them
Oda knew exactly what to do with them, they were Zoro and Sanji's main opponents for the arc and Kaido's most formidable subordinates. If anything, Jack felt like more of an afterthought and loose end when you consider how he was removed from the board.

He sacrificed Jack in order ti hype them
No skin off my back.
 
#25
King and Queen are much better characters. Jack is just a goon. The little brother complex could've worked to make him more interesting, but Oda was content at leaving him as a stepping stone for other characters.
jack lowkey got the smoothie treatment. though i guess basically losing off-screen is even worse than doing pretty much nothing but lose to a door (on-panel) for an entire arc
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He sacrificed Jack in order ti hype them
you still having secret meetings with oda?!
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#26
jack lowkey got the smoothie treatment. though i guess basically losing off-screen is even worse than doing pretty much nothing but lose to a door (on-panel) for an entire arc
Its funny that the same user who claims that King and Queen don't deserve to be Calamities after they both had pretty good showings in this arc also claims that Smoothie is formidable despite being treated like utter trash, just because Oda called her "strong" in an SBS. Hmm, I wonder why...xD
 
#32
Jack and king are both the brutal silent badass type hiding their true identity

The most interesting thing about king is him being a lunarian. The most interesting thing he did was fight zoro

Jack raided zou fighting the dukes for 5 days straight refusing to listen to the mink till he got the answer he wanted. To then gas them all leaving them for dead to try and get doffy
He attacked marines ships that not only had a admiral but former fleet admiral sengoku and tsuru. He might have failed but still badass of him
He went back to zou and tried to kil zunisha only to get unlucky with momo being there. Tho he still survived an attack from zunisha
In act 1 of wano while he didn't do anything crazy he just seemed a lot more interesting of a character than before at least imo
During onigashima he was the only all star to go back up kaido on the roof. With his squad taking down all the sulong minks besides the dukes. And he still later got back up and almost defeated inuarashi before he went sulong

Even tho most of the cool things he did happened pre wano it was still cool
 
#33
Jack and king are both the brutal silent badass type hiding their true identity

The most interesting thing about king is him being a lunarian. The most interesting thing he did was fight zoro

Jack raided zou fighting the dukes for 5 days straight refusing to listen to the mink till he got the answer he wanted. To then gas them all leaving them for dead to try and get doffy
He attacked marines ships that not only had a admiral but former fleet admiral sengoku and tsuru. He might have failed but still badass of him
He went back to zou and tried to kil zunisha only to get unlucky with momo being there. Tho he still survived an attack from zunisha
In act 1 of wano while he didn't do anything crazy he just seemed a lot more interesting of a character than before at least imo
During onigashima he was the only all star to go back up kaido on the roof. With his squad taking down all the sulong minks besides the dukes. And he still later got back up and almost defeated inuarashi before he went sulong

Even tho most of the cool things he did happened pre wano it was still cool
King basically didn't even do anything which justify why he's a Calamity
Like what savagery did he show or brutality?

Wihiut lunarian plot, King remains the background dude

Jack was done dirty for 2 characters who are pathetic
 
#35
Oda just gave him that spotlight just to hype Kaido's crew and the first character with a billion bounty. In Zou Inuarashi and Nekomamushi sulongs would have defeated him at that moment if not for the poison gas
Inu and Neko + their respective minks also couldn't put Jack down for 5 days even though they both had 12 hours to rest each time they fought, Jack didn't.

It's just funny how a lot of people are willing to overlook what Jack has actually done & accomplished just to shit on his character.

Truth of the matter is, Jack has a better showing than King & Queen, his endurance is better than King & Queen, his loyalty to Kaido is better than King & Queen.

If you look at his record it's also better than King & Queen.

Minks + Inu & Neko on Zou = Win
Fujitora, Sengoku & Tsuru = Lose
Zuneshia = Lose
Ashura = Draw
Sulong Mink Army = Win
Sulong Inu & Neko = Lose
Round 2 vs Minks ( on his way to the scabbards ) = Win
Round 2 vs Inu = Lose

It's funny how Jack only losses were against an enormous elephant & because he fought an army of Minks right before he fought the Dukes.

Ultimately Jack, Smoothie, even King & Queen got screwed by Odas writing.
 
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#40
Another hidden agenda to downplay YC1 king
:josad: but jack was good, even his relationship with kaido was wholesome af

Oda just decided to throw him away
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Na only when alone he acted big but when the rest of all-stars are present he bitches out.

Btw can someone mention a named attack from Jack?
:risitavirus:
"AAAAH"

Is the most powerful and only attack he used so far
 
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