[FNZ] Role Madness Jujutsu Kaisen Mafia - Shibuya Incident [Game Ended = Mafia + Traitor + Neutral Indie Won!]

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Ratchet

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I am severely disappointed though. So many people have outted their roles its going to make us sitting ducks, Kiku's claim of tracking Destroya, Conq "following" or watching Broki, Psychic confirming she is watcher and being forced to leave the game after the day phase.

Also where the hell is Tweet during all of this?
Is Michelle dueling Broki or someone else?

Also agreed for the most part, but there is Naomi also outting herself claiming her hider 1x shot ability and making a bang about Ultra being "scum" protected when he was publicly protected by the town leader but she insisted for awhile early in day 2 that it was by scum...after he already confirmed iirc he was rolecrushed by scum.
It seems foolish in a role madness game to have people use their roles or abilities in use from night 1 without context, to rationalize a "gotcha", as in this case with certain accusations going on currently.

Naomi vs Ultra being one blinkering obvious example detailing this. What matters more is we are neutering ourselves such as Joygirl implying she is the one giving the orders to the assassins which is just more knowledge for the mafia and hostile indies to be aware. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume the "assassins" cover a wide spectrum of alignments (town, mafia, indie, etc...) so it just corrodes their usage as a utility to trim the fat of inactives or potential hostile players who slip through the cracks of lynches.

Unless you want to walk me through how my take is wrong here?
I don't really feel like I need to add further comment on these - none of this feels like it remotely concerns him and doesn't even really make sense anyway (for reasons I outlined then). Just sideline commentary on events to be seen doing something.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
@Orwellian Can you remind me why you didn't claim you could help Ultra from the start please? Like why did you need to be prompted into claiming?

While I'm at it, what gave you the impression you *could* help Ultra at all?
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Fang claims he held off investigating because he wanted to use his role for LyLo. But his investigation as claimed isn't strengthened by LyLo at all, if anything it increases the chance of returning false positive results and it supposedly only targets the dead which means it should be pretty reliable.
 
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Joygirl1

We can´t help but we can almost feel players in dead chat yelling "Look at those f*cking morons!" because we are either overlooking something obvious or take something for granted that we shouldn´t :wellwell:
 
Assassins don't kill from their own will.
They receive targets. Now that I think more, we only had town targets
If I will receive tonight a target who seems town to me, I will not go for it but I am afraid scum will kill another townie if they have shots left
The town assassins don't you are probably right about. But scum assassins? How are you so confident about that? Every single flipped dead assassin like Kweh/Tweet and Ultra have had different abilities, number of shots, and other things. Would it surprise you if the idea a scum assassin being able to choose their own target or some shit like that? Hell Tweet was town and he could veto and change the target. Your argument isn't 100% airtight.
 
Also why so little to say about MitchMatch,
I just think he’s Town.

I think his 0 VP doesn’t really fit into a team with Broki. And I vibe him Town in general.
Pretty strong logic here, I have to admit.
@Ratchet I realised after searching the quotes that I mixed up Nika with Mitch.

I have nnothing about Nika. He said he is new to the game but his play doesn't match this. But last game we lynched Jessie who was not new but said he is. Idk anymore :(
 
Kelp. (I don't know, reading Kiku's posts from today gives me bad vibes. Refuses to elaborate on his reads and votes, refuses to talk to michelle who simply asked for his reasonings, etc.

He sounds either fed up, or he's faking it to get a wagon on prof going.

It's a bit funny how Nika and Kiku are the ones voting for Prof, with no apparent reason, other than "It's the way")
I actually agree with this take. Kiku has looked bad from day 2 and in particular the entire fiasco with death tunneling Des/X, the ensuing reaction where he was forced to basically state he was cop to save himself from a lynch (and I was firmly town reading him from day 1) and had the endgame result of that was him getting hit night 2 with the permanent role-crush/transfiguration thing. There's also the relationship where there is strong equity between Kiku and Broki because that lynch nearly derailed Broki's until the duel happened while she was creating a stir on Des.

Honestly have no idea what Nika is doing. He's jumped on most of the lynch votes when there were already strong wagons post day 1. My preference is either Kiku, Nika, or Michelle still.
 
The town assassins don't you are probably right about. But scum assassins? How are you so confident about that? Every single flipped dead assassin like Kweh/Tweet and Ultra have had different abilities, number of shots, and other things. Would it surprise you if the idea a scum assassin being able to choose their own target or some shit like that? Hell Tweet was town and he could veto and change the target. Your argument isn't 100% airtight.
Sorry, where in Twitter's role is written he can choose another target?
 
@Orwellian Can you explain why you haven't used your forensic ability yet? I don't see any good reason for it - by rights you should be expecting to be killed very soon, to the point where your chances of surviving the next night with your role in tact ought to be unlikely. So what's the hold up?
I already did say I did use it and I'm not going to go tic for tact with all 20+ posts you've made at me since I went to bed.
 
Sorry, where in Twitter's role is written he can choose another target?
Day 3 End - You've Got It From Here...






Tales of a Jujutsu Sorcerer who took it upon himself to work alone spread long and wild. He faced off an entire army on his own, and on top of that, he was doing it overtime. He could only handle so much before inevitably succumbing to his wounds...

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@KWEH (Kento Nanami) was lynched!

Kento Nanami
4x Assassin; 1x Self-Binding Vow: Overtime; 1x 3:7 Critical Hit




Congratulations, you are Kento Nanami, Jujutsu Sorcerers Aligned!


4x Assassin - At the start of each night, you may receive a command from a player whose alignment is unknown to you ordering you to assassinate (regular kill) a player. You will have until the end of the night to either vote for carrying out the given assassination order or vote against it. Failure to make a selection by the end of the night will be considered as an automatic approval vote to carry out the order. You are aware that there exist other assassin(s) in the game who may also vote for or against carrying out the given order, but you do not know their number nor their respective alignments. If you vote to carry out the order, and the order was overall majority voted to be carried out or tied by the assassins (you included), you will visit the assassination target with a regular kill that night. A shot of this ability is consumed every time you vote to carry out an order, regardless if it was ultimately carried out or not. You will not receive an order nor be able to vote for or against carrying one when you are out of shots.

1x Self-Binding Vow: Overtime - If you are alive until night 4 or any later night, and have received an assassination order that night, you may activate this ability to veto the assassination order you received that night and change it to another target of your choice instead, unbeknownst to the person commanding the order nor the other assassin(s), if any.

(Locked) 1x 3:7 Critical Hit - This ability is only unlocked via the Binding Vow Buff. Once at night, you can activate this ability to make your vote for carrying out the assassination order count as 2, and make your assassination kill this night a super-kill.

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(Binding Vow Buff) Revealing One's Hand - If you truthfully reveal your flavor + any part of your role in the Game Thread, even if vaguely or misleadingly, you will unlock your 1x 3:7 Critical Hit ability.


Win Con - Eliminate all threats to Town

 
Also I am confident about town assassins, but for balance reasons I consider the same rules are for scum because if they can choose target they become vigs and that isn't proved by flips
 
4x Assassin - At the start of each night, you may receive a command from a player whose alignment is unknown to you ordering you to assassinate (regular kill) a player. You will have until the end of the night to either vote for carrying out the given assassination order or vote against it. Failure to make a selection by the end of the night will be considered as an automatic approval vote to carry out the order. You are aware that there exist other assassin(s) in the game who may also vote for or against carrying out the given order, but you do not know their number nor their respective alignments. If you vote to carry out the order, and the order was overall majority voted to be carried out or tied by the assassins (you included), you will visit the assassination target with a regular kill that night. A shot of this ability is consumed every time you vote to carry out an order, regardless if it was ultimately carried out or not. You will not receive an order nor be able to vote for or against carrying one when you are out of shots.
Can you read again?
 
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Joygirl1

Getting so paranoid about Flower looking like she´s stalling for time because she knows that she doesn´t get stopped or we mislynch she´s gonna win this night :sus:

Currently tend to either lynch or shoot hime tbh, did not catch up but immediately throws her vote on Ratchet and despite 4 townies having died last night there have still been not a single janitored kill yet. Additionally, as mentioned before, both players that were in a chat with her last night ended up dead.

Tinfoiling? Maybe. But we are standing with our back to the wall at this point, with no other great leads we have no choice to rely on something like those theories regarding hime or Orwellian :kayneshrug:
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
where there is strong equity between Kiku and Broki because that lynch nearly derailed Broki's until the duel happened while she was creating a stir on Des.
This isn't really accurate - by that point it was generally agreed upon that Broki would be duelled, in fact, using the duel not having happened is just completely ignoring context to frame a situation dishonestly. Not good.
 
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