[FNZ] Role Madness Jujutsu Kaisen Mafia - Shibuya Incident [Game Ended = Mafia + Traitor + Neutral Indie Won!]

[Orwellian]

TOWN AF
hime

TOWN
prof, jg, midnight, mitch, flower/charlie

LIKELY TOWN
mango

NULL
nika/blue, gram, aurelian

SCUM/INDIE
haza, ratchet, kiku, michelle

99% sure all 5 baddies r in my scum/null
worst case, mango is one of them

7 players tho, 5 must be bad
should have pretty good chances theoretically but this just seems so hard lmao

Why do you have Mango as likely town when there is still a strong chance he has a fake role like our flipped scum (Broki) has? And why do you have Michelle as scum/indie? She's either scum or town so I don't understand your tier/ranking thing here.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Who wasn't outted scum apparently? Kiku or Broki? You are going a mile a second here and I honestly can't keep up with you or where the tangent on who the outted scum was or wasn't is.

Kiku.

I never ignored this.

Ratchet and Gram will both death tunnel on someone for even a benign mistake, push their lynch, and then shrug off mislynching a person in past games because they believe that slip was enough evidence to happily fuck over another because they believe it was impetus enough to crucify them.

Hell I literally experienced this in a past recent game as the Town Voyeur/Niche Watcher. But because preconceptions about my play and a certain someone dismissing my arguments, cases, and ISOs as being "scum coached" I still got lynched. I dislike generally playing with them at times in mafia because of that shit.

Thoughts on their alignment?

It wasn't my intention to attack you in my response but I got riled up and that was my reaction to that sort of post I saw from you. I can't change that.

It’s okay. Again, I’m on edge and way pricklier than usual. Normally I’d just shrug it off as mafia lol.

You earlier, which I can directly and immediately quote, posted you'd happily game-throw to mislynch me out of spite because apparently I'm speaking back to you too harshly. C'mon now.

That’s a very rare backlash moment and only after I hit peak boiling point bc I was frustrated. I’m not gonna be malicious while trying to solve the game. The two are very different lol. I promise.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

y not?

I just don’t see it. I’d bet vig shot.

Gojo probably has a kill or something and shot them. I’d be surprised if he didn’t have a kill shot lol.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

So I wasn't by direct choice or cognitively "ignoring" any points or counter-arguments you were making in my defense. When I see red, I see red and tend to lose focus on what I'm doing to go into angry reaction mode. Does that make sense to you?

I get it lol.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Magic makes sense for a vig shot there. Ratchet was protected. Can see a vig shooting Magic to work through sorting them.

 

[hime]

I don’t think Magic is a scum kill fwiw. So don’t factor that one in.

I had the same thoughts on Gram/Ratchet (and even wondered if Gram = Sukuna who joined scum & Ratchet = GF or something to explain two inno scans lol)
- Which means I’m getting into silly levels of tinfoil. Obviously that’s probably not the case.

I trust Gram way more than Ratchet. I think he’s probably Town. *Maybe* evaluate if Ratchet flipped scum.

I just got done doing his ISO

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If Ratchet is scum or not, one of Fang/Kiku has to be scum either way. So Ratchet isn’t the lynch. If Ratchet = scum, then Kiku is probably the lynch here.

thing is aurelian and kiku is more of a 50/50 imo
maybe 70/30 to me idk

with ratchet, i just cant see him being town ugh
maybe hella gut combined with the reads of my dead comrades i trusted
i feel like my power lvl is too weak to fully push a lynch on him tho without it being like a "just trust me bro" type thing ;-;
i will try tho for x and magic

 

[Dr_Professor83]

One thing I think that happens that causes misunderstanding between us @Orwellian , and this happened in Dressrosa Mafia too, is I present cases where I entertain someone as scum, and then paint that narrative and see how it fits. (I’ll also sprinkle where I see it doesn’t hold up while doing this)

To me it’s like looking through a lens and seeing if it can fit or not.

 

[hime]

Why do you have Mango as likely town when there is still a strong chance he has a fake role like our flipped scum (Broki) has? And why do you have Michelle as scum/indie? She's either scum or town so I don't understand your tier/ranking thing here.

mango is a lazier player (no offense)
i just cant see him go thru all this trouble with a fake pr lmao
its a dumb reason to townread him, sure, but ill take the risk for now
if i find reason to reevaluate his slot, ill look into it further

my scum/indie thing just means baddie lol
michelle is in that tier

 

[Dr_Professor83]

thing is aurelian and kiku is more of a 50/50 imo
maybe 70/30 to me idk

with ratchet, i just cant see him being town ugh
maybe hella gut combined with the reads of my dead comrades i trusted
i feel like my power lvl is too weak to fully push a lynch on him tho without it being like a "just trust me bro" type thing ;-;
i will try tho for x and magic

Ratchet/Fang are probably not aligned. Ratchet/Kiku maybe.

But one of Fang/Kiku are 100% mafia. Ratchet technically could be Town (my bones tells me he’s not lol, but my bones could be filled with raw paranoia)

 

[hime]

I just don’t see it. I’d bet vig shot.

Gojo probably has a kill or something and shot them. I’d be surprised if he didn’t have a kill shot lol.

no way magic gets vigged before other slots lol
he wasnt even being scum read from what i recall

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I don’t like Cal’s flip to voting Fang today. But will see what he says about it.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

no way magic gets vigged before other slots lol
he wasnt even being scum read from what i recall

Ratchet was protected. If vig thought one of Ratchet/Magic had to be scum, and was worried about scum big braining things, they might shoot Magic even if they thought he was the more likely Town between the two, just to clear the picture up doing into today.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Hime is probably Town btw. If scum she can have it.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I’m so sleepy lol. But once I go to bed not gonna be a ton of time tomorrow to read probably.

 

[hime]

Ratchet/Fang are probably not aligned. Ratchet/Kiku maybe.

But one of Fang/Kiku are 100% mafia. Ratchet technically could be Town (my bones tells me he’s not lol, but my bones could be filled with raw paranoia)

ekko gives scum roles and lets them decide who wants what specific role
i doubt there is a world where ratchet does not pick gf/is not asked by his teammates to be the gf
the guy has an amazing scum game, who else do u see pulling all this off??

 

[Dr_Professor83]

ekko gives scum roles and lets them decide who wants what specific role
i doubt there is a world where ratchet does not pick gf/is not asked by his teammates to be the gf
the guy has an amazing scum game, who else do u see pulling all this off??

I didn’t know this.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Ratchet probably would be GF then if scum lol. Yeah.

 

[hime]

I didn’t know this.

he did that in fairy tail plus hes told me he does this always in general in a discord convo we had

 

[Dr_Professor83]

The argument for Ratchet not being scum is that nothing is really being pulled off and town has just been tripping over each & blind to solve laying low mafia (which partially happened in Fallout NV mafia a tad)

 

[Dr_Professor83]

he did that in fairy tail plus hes told me he does this always in general in a discord convo we had

I’m tempted to ask to be let into a month+ old mafia scum chat to confirm this lol.