[FNZ] Role Madness Jujutsu Kaisen Mafia - Shibuya Incident [Game Ended = Mafia + Traitor + Neutral Indie Won!]

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The argument for Ratchet not being scum is that nothing is really being pulled off and town has just been tripping over each & blind to solve laying low mafia (which partially happened in Fallout NV mafia a tad)
the tweet/reborn thing was def planned out lol
the night kills like naomi and stuff probs there to confuse us as well
 
I’m tempted to ask to be let into a month+ old mafia scum chat to confirm this lol.
Sup sup!

Congratulations, you guys are the Balam Alliance this game, and your motive is to drown the world in your darkness! You will win the game when you eliminate the Alvarez Empire and any hostile independents, and reach vote parity with Fiore.

Each one of you is randomly assigned a role, however, you will have the ability to choose which of you wants to play which role. You will have until the end of day 1 to make this decision. If no changes are made, these will be the default assigned roles:
Hades - T-Pein
Mard Geer - Xadlin
Seilah - Hime
Cobra - Poison


Your faction has access to Factional Abilities that are displayed below your godfather, Hades' role. If Hades dies, these Factional Abilities will be revealed publicly to the thread with his death, but they will still be usable and claimable, at your own risk.

Good luck have fun! ^^

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Precht "Hades" Gaebolg - T-Pein

"The mistakes people make are eventually labeled as experience. But with a true mistake, there will be no experience to be gained. Because the mistake you made taking me as your opponent will leave you with no future." - Hades


Congratulations, You are Hades, Balam Alliance Aligned!


- [Super Role] -

[Unranked Passive - Fairy Tail Founding Father] - You scan as innocent to alignment investigations and role/ability cops fail on you. Watchers and trackers still work.

[Unranked - Passive - Magic Barrier] - You are surrounded by a magic barrier, granting you super-bulletproof. The first time you are attacked by a regular kill, this passive will be disabled for a cycle and you will be rolecrushed and voteless the following cycle while recovering. If you are attacked by a super-kill, you will be rolecrushed and voteless the following cycle, but this passive will never recover.

[S Class Active - Chain Magic] - Once per night, you can target a player and make their non-super or ultra-kill negative actions fail on your faction that night. At SS Class, you will also make their investigative abilities fail on your faction that night. At 10-Year Class, you may now target up to 2 players per night. At 100-Year Class, this ability will now stop super-kills as well. For each ability you make fail this way, you will gain a "Magic Charge".
--- [SS Class Active - Amaterasu] - Once per night, you may consume 2 Magic Charges to rolecrush a player or 5 Magic Charges to regular kill a player that night. Does not count toward the factional kill limit.

[100-Year Class Active - Ultimate - Limiter Release: Grimoire Law] - Upgrade your factional kill into an ultra-kill this night. This ability's activation will appear in the night write-up, but will not specify which kill was carried out by you. [1-shot].

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[Factional Passive - Grimoire: Heart] - If there is only one last member left alive from the Balam Alliance, that member will inherit Hades' [Amaterasu] and his [Super Role] status. This passive still works after your death.
--- [Factional Passive - Oracion: Nirvana] - Should the factional kill of the last member left alive from the Balam Alliance fail, all of their next factional kills will be +1 level stronger. Should another factional kill also fail, all of their next factional kills will be +2 levels stronger. This passive still works after your death.

[Factional Active - Tartaros: Face] - Once per game, during the day, the Balam Alliance can activate this ability to wipe out any vote tampering and vote manipulation abilities currently in effect in that day phase and ensure that everyone has a voting power of 1. Does not negate vote tampering abilities that benefit your team. This ability's effect will be publicly announced without hinting at any flavor. This ability can still be used after your death. [1-shot].


Win Con - Eliminate the Alvarez Empire and any hostile independents, and reign supreme control over Fiore.

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Mard Geer Tartaros - Xadlin

"If this is the best you can muster, I advise you all to give up now. Mard Geer has yet to even try." - Mard Geer


Congratulations, You are Mard Geer, Balam Alliance Aligned!


[S Class Active - Thorn Magic] - Once per night, you can target a player and protect them from regular kills that night. At SS Class, you may elect to additionally roleblock the target player if you so will, effectively jailing them that night. At 10-Year Class, the protection part will become a super-protect. If this ability stops a kill from happening ON that player, Hades will obtain a "Magic Charge" for [Amaterasu]. If you are the last member left alive in your faction, you may self-target with this ability, however, you will permanently lose it if it stops 1 kill and you will be voteless the following cycle.
--- [SS Class Active - Alegria] - Once at night, you can elect to have your faction not perform a factional kill, and instead protect your entire team from the first super-kill that targets them that night. The first player to target your faction with 2 non-positive abilities that night will be regular killed. If this ability stops a kill on your faction, you will be rolecrushed and voteless the following cycle. [1-shot].

[100-Year Class Active - Ultimate - Etherious Form: Memento Mori] - Once at night, you may target a player and permanently erase their role, turning them into a vanilla/goon starting at that night. They will only be able to vote and perform factional kills for the rest of the game. [1-shot].


Win Con - Eliminate the Alvarez Empire and any hostile independents, and reign supreme control over Fiore.

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Seilah - Hime

"The stories written by humans are boring. I shall write my own story, the story of the demons." - Seilah


Congratulations, You are Seilah, Balam Alliance Aligned!


[S Class Active - Demon Eye] - Once per night, you can target a player and bookie voyeur them, calling the type of 1 ability from the following: protective, manipulative, preventative, investigative, or destructive. If that player was targeted by the ability type you called, you will learn the name of the ability's user, and Hades will obtain a "Magic Charge" for [Amaterasu]. After SS Class, you will additionally obtain the target's full role. After 10-Year Class, you may now call the type of 2 abilities per night, however, you may still only generate 1 Magic Charge per night.

[SS Class Active - Macro Limiter Release] - Once in the game, at night, you may target a player and increase the strength of their killing abilities by +1 level that night. You will obtain a second shot at 100-Year Class. [1-shot].

[10-Year Class Active - Ultimate - Macro Curse] - Once per night, you can target a player that you have previously investigated successfully and take control over their role that night. At 100-Year Class you will obtain a second shot. You may not use this ability on the same player twice in the game. Ultra-kill abilities cannot be controlled. [1-shot].


Win Con - Eliminate the Alvarez Empire and any hostile independents, and reign supreme control over Fiore.

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Erik "Cobra" - Poison

"What you, slags, don't have is the determination to lose something important! No one can overcome the weight of our hearts!" - Cobra


Congratulations, You are Cobra, Balam Alliance Aligned!


- [Dragon Slayer] -

[S Class Passive - Poison Dragon Slayer] - You create a number of poison charges each night. Starting at S Class, you will create a maximum of 1 charge per night. This limit goes up by 1 charge per night for each class you climb until it reaches a maximum of 4 charges per night at 100-Year Class.
--- [S Class Active - Cubellios] - Bus drive 2 players together, redirecting all non-super or ultra-kill actions from one player to the other. At 100-Year Class, obtain an extra shot. Uses 1 charge. [2-shots].
--- [SS Class Active - Poison Dragon Twin Fang] -
When performing the factional kill, you can consume 1 charge to make the kill immune to redirections and have it process at the end of the next day, ignoring night protections used on the target. For an extra charge, you can make the kill immune to watchers and trackers. The death writeup will say the target was poisoned. [2-shots].
--- [SS Class Active - Poison Dragon Medicine] -
Consume 2 charges to target a player and grant them a 1-shot refill to a non-ultimate ability of their choice. If they refill a positive ability and used it on your faction OR refilled a non-positive ability and use it on a target outside of your faction, Hades will obtain a "Magic Charge" for [Amaterasu]. Cannot target the same player twice in a row.
--- [10-Year Class Active - Ultimate - Poison Dragon Roar] - Target up to as many players as charges as you have and reduce the strength of their killing abilities by 1 level that night. Consumes up to 4 charges. [1-shot].


Win Con - Eliminate the Alvarez Empire and any hostile independents, and reign supreme control over Fiore.
here if ur curious lol^
 
if the innocent on ratchet is holding u up, dont let it
come join me before u go prof
It’s not lol. If he’s scum he’s probably GF.

The hold up is being unsure on this Fang/Kiku thing.

I’m not voting before bed just in case I wake up to any shenanigans lol. I’ll be here so I don’t need to.
 
It’s not lol. If he’s scum he’s probably GF.

The hold up is being unsure on this Fang/Kiku thing.

I’m not voting before bed just in case I wake up to any shenanigans lol. I’ll be here so I don’t need to.
aurelian/kiku can be resolved tmrw
we mislynch there and we either lose either our tracker or our healer
ratchet is simply a safer bet if u believe that he is scum
 
would be useful to hear kiku's track results for tonight is she is town or aurelian can heal me tonight too (selfish reasons, ik but i dislike being a human blob ;-;)
 
I see, I see. Well just reapply what I said earlier about what I thought were points against me vs points for me by you going over my earlier posts from today and that was my logic. But I'm gonna be honest my brain is fried and I am sleep deprieved so I'm not in the best state at this moment to make more then that lol.

Thoughts on their alignment?
I truly have no fucking idea if I'm gonna be completely transparent here with you on the subject of those two. I can't read either of them for shit at all, but Des did get a innocent result on Gram when Kiku was death-tunneling him in day 2 claiming he tried to kill Naomi.

It’s okay. Again, I’m on edge and way pricklier than usual. Normally I’d just shrug it off as mafia lol.
Same same. Just have to learn to not take this personally.

That’s a very rare backlash moment and only after I hit peak boiling point bc I was frustrated. I’m not gonna be malicious while trying to solve the game. The two are very different lol. I promise.
No, I understand completely.
Magic makes sense for a vig shot there. Ratchet was protected. Can see a vig shooting Magic to work through sorting them.
The only way someone would've shot Magic is if they thought he had equity with Broki?
Or was involved in hitting Des and Ultra?
If it was a vig kill it'd be odd given how much you and Magic were sharing a lot of similar views only to shoot them instead of the people in your guys POE.

mango is a lazier player (no offense)
i just cant see him go thru all this trouble with a fake pr lmao
its a dumb reason to townread him, sure, but ill take the risk for now
if i find reason to reevaluate his slot, ill look into it further

my scum/indie thing just means baddie lol
michelle is in that tier
I see but I can't agree all the same with Mango's slot.
Worst case he's an Indie and has the guy who can't talk normally as a fake role or he's scum. It leans outside factors to clear away Mango from being a potential hostile role in the stage we're at. And like I said earlier I'm unsure about Michelle. And still don't agree with easily putting Midnight in town tier.

Anyway I need to hope off to bed, its almost 3 in the morning.

I'll be able to post more up to the early afternoon tomorrow when I go to work.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Ratchet and Gram will both death tunnel on someone for even a benign mistake, push their lynch, and then shrug off mislynching a person in past games because they believe that slip was enough evidence to happily fuck over another because they believe it was impetus enough to crucify them.
This just isn't true. I am far harder on myself when I err in judgement than anyone else will be (on me), even if I'm confident any mislynch I push would have been well evidence enough to be justified.
 
I have yet to use my binding Vow or Plurality ability
Interesting, Broki mentioned also at one moment the possibility to have plurality
im thinking...

TOWN AF
hime

TOWN
jg, midnight, mitch, flower/charlie

LIKELY TOWN
prof, aurelian, gram, mango

NULL
nika/blue

SCUM/INDIE
haza, ratchet, kiku, michelle
Do you prefer going after Ratchet instead solving the Orwellian/ Kiku dichotomy?
Also, you are wrong about me, ask me things if you want to solve me, don't just put me there

btw leaning indie on haza and team is michelle, kiku, and ratchet

dont particularly feel great abt this tho

nika/blue's claim just checks out which is making me reconsider ugh
could swap that slot with kiku's ig.....

haza being indie is kinda eh for me too lmao
i assume hed come into the game trying to appear more townie like in fairytail but i assume rl stuff could cause the difference in play too?
Can't you see I try to solve this game ?
Who could possibly be the other indie besides Sukuna btw? Flower had Cal checked last night and he is not Sukuna.

Also having a hard time thinking that mafia team really let Michelle duel Broki when they are only 4. There was no real need for Michelle to claim that dueling ability in the first place after she already claimed assassin.
This

I hate to claim, I think I said it, but I made a full claim D1 and I received immediatly town reads for it. I could duel a townie in the Poe then and no one would accuse me for killing a townie. However, I waited for everyone to make a consensus target and killed mafia.
What's here to tinfoil so much? @Dr_Professor83 @Grammaton @hime
hmm i thought she said she just claimed she role crushed him and he said nothing abt it
this changes things
tho i still hold that hes scummy regardless
If this is about Ripped, I think he is scum for wishy washy behaviour around me and Orwellian today - pushed me but without conviction, asked me about why I said Orw is overthinking and let it in suspense when I answered (nitpicky for semantics is scum trait) after that defended Orw and in short time said he will sheep Gramm and voted Orw.
And Ratchet said he sees all there but he let Ripped to answer, and from Ripped came cricket noises.
Except she had already told us day 1 - can’t exactly not use it there can she?
Why didn't I use it D1 then?
Unless your contention is she could have just not told us full stop, in which case she’d never be able to use it full stop (if she wanted to get away with it)
again, I would use it immediatly in D1
Gram's point is that if she didn't claim the duel day 1, she would never be able to use it because it would have been unclaimed.
Aand that's also false, A partial claim would be understood and accepted and I could bring it up in a situation where town has 2 townies in the Poe. It's like you think I couldn't do that, but it would be possible, Full claim was in town's interest
No, I’m relatively sure ratchet is town - i thought that before the cop result l. I think paranoia is fuelling a lot of the thoughts against him, and I don’t think anything remotely convincing is being brought to bear. Is it possible I’m wrong? Sure, and I’ll look like the biggest twat ever if that’s the case but everything points towards a team of semi absent folk who don’t really know how to seize the situation they miraculously find themselves in

As for Michelle, she could have chosen to keep it under wraps but then she probably gets lynched day 1 if she claims just assassin, given she had some heavy fingers being pointed at her

I don’t think scum planned her to be forced to duel a partner, but they didn’t know broki was gonna get caught did they - not really a very good point tbh
No, I was cleared for flavour more than role, so I could not claim assassin and duelist and go only with the flavour claim.
I wouldn't go into D2 with the duel
it says i retain my previous wincon but that i am tragedy aligned (in white text)
brokis role pm says she is cursed spirits aligned

could this be the other indie midnight mentioned in his role pm?
a kind of delayed SK?
Ultra already claimed that he was healed via Fang, albeit temporarily.
I think this is in Orw's favour

If someone can satisfactorily explain why he didn’t tell ultra he was a healer, or had a 100% sure fire guilty info result but only wanted to gently insert Kiku into PoE, then I’ll drop the whole thing - spoiler: you won’t be able to

‘He does mongy stuff’ isn’t a valid explanation FYI
Why is everyone expecting everyone to play the same way and make always perfect cases and such?
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
would be useful to hear kiku's track results for tonight is she is town or aurelian can heal me tonight too (selfish reasons, ik but i dislike being a human blob ;-;)
This is absolute dreck. There is no way you actually believe that you gaining access to a night chat ability is worth postponing the resolution of a mech result. At best, it's anti town by incompetence. Can I also remind you that it's majority, you're going to have to pick a side here and abstaining from doing so isn't an option.
 
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