Future Events Kaido will fight back in chapter 993 that's what Oda said 🚨🚨

#61
judging prev fights with kaido

after getting tossed/owned in dragon form
typically he reverts to his human form to fight back
should expect a response next chap .
scabbards have done a lot more than just no "damage".
anymore from them would be overkill .
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could see oden taking kaido rn too tbh
but thats a discussion for another day
in a fair fight with no hostage ofc.

kaido seems a bit awestruck in regards to oden
acc to him
none of the scabbards come close to his skill (managed to give him that gaping wound still)
but acc to oden,
roger was >>> (even greater)
just a little sidenote for those who compare those two. so funny.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#62
judging prev fights with kaido

after getting tossed/owned in dragon form
typically he reverts to his human form to fight back
should expect a response next chap .
scabbards have done a lot more than just no "damage".
anymore from them would be overkill .
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could see oden taking kaido rn too tbh
but thats a discussion for another day
in a fair fight with no hostage ofc.

kaido seems a bit awestruck in regards to oden
acc to him
none of the scabbards come close to his skill (managed to give him that gaping wound still)
but acc to oden,
roger was >>> (even greater)
just a little sidenote for those who compare those two. so funny.
Lmfao the sad part is all of us are like chill tf out scabbards its too much
 
#63
Lmfao the sad part is all of us are like chill tf out scabbards its too much
fandom went from
"kaido will solo minks in sulong and the scabbards "
"destroying the moon "
"scabbards wont do any damage, kinemon might have hurt him but it meant nothing "

to
"hopefully kaido can just end the scabbards"

expectations have become realistic
took a look at the spoiler thread from 986 onwards
had a solid laugh.

on the other hand you understand cutting kaido now isnt as impressive @HA001
cause initially folks thought enma would be perhaps the only blade capable od doing this.
oh how the mighty have fallen.

biggest takeaway from these chapters for me
there were folks who said kaido still wont go down this arc
I dont think a lot of people think that anymore. he looks very beatable. the scabbards dont have the firepower, but those rookies?
different case entirely.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#64
fandom went from
"kaido will solo minks in sulong and the scabbards "
"destroying the moon "
"scabbards wont do any damage, kinemon might have hurt him but it meant nothing "

to
"hopefully kaido can just end the scabbards"

expectations have become realistic
took a look at the spoiler thread from 986 onwards
had a solid laugh.

on the other hand you understand cutting kaido now isnt as impressive @HA001
cause initially folks thought enma would be perhaps the only blade capable od doing this.
oh how the mighty have fallen.

biggest takeaway from these chapters for me
there were folks who said kaido still wont go down this arc
I dont think a lot of people think that anymore. he looks very beatable. the scabbards dont have the firepower, but those rookies?
different case entirely.
Slow your role their lanji
we never thought enma was a magic sword im sure most were aware it was due to haki kaido was cut not the sword (even more evident when you see both swords cut him not just enma)
now the scabbards have re opened his scar zoro is set to do something far greater
 
#65
Slow your role their lanji
we never thought enma was a magic sword im sure most were aware it was due to haki kaido was cut not the sword (even more evident when you see both swords cut him not just enma)
now the scabbards have re opened his scar zoro is set to do something far greater
not you
the blokes that think enma is the magic blade
the only blade capable of hurting kaido
the folks who think oden only dissected kaido cause he had enma and not the fact that oden was cutting him up with any blade


reality is
most strong swordsmen are cutting him up
go to the zoro bet thread
see the comments early on about zoro cutting kaido
"not a chance"
"he wont even meet him"

take a look there now and it seems very plausible, but at this point no one thinks its such a great feat anymore because kaido simply what he was hyped up to be. I bet zoro pre enma is still cutting him up.

folks have to keep in mind
kinemon raizo and kiku are as strong as they were 20 yrs ago
and all nine red scabbards were held by queen and king 20 yrs ago. a weaker queen and king I bet. embarassing performance form the so called "peak of the op verse in his prime"
 
#66
judging prev fights with kaido

after getting tossed/owned in dragon form
typically he reverts to his human form to fight back
should expect a response next chap .
scabbards have done a lot more than just no "damage".
anymore from them would be overkill .
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could see oden taking kaido rn too tbh
but thats a discussion for another day
in a fair fight with no hostage ofc.

kaido seems a bit awestruck in regards to oden
acc to him
none of the scabbards come close to his skill (managed to give him that gaping wound still)
but acc to oden,
roger was >>> (even greater)
just a little sidenote for those who compare those two. so funny.
people thought Kaido was going to respond when the scabbards first jumped him and the Commanders. That was 6 chapters ago lol. Odas been dragging kaidos retaliation for the longest now. Then Again........ I guess Kaido has no choice but to respond at this point considering the damage he's taken. Vibes are gonna be really different once he starts swinging that club.
 
#69
people thought Kaido was going to respond when the scabbards first jumped him and the Commanders. That was 6 chapters ago lol. Odas been dragging kaidos retaliation for the longest now. Then Again........ I guess Kaido has no choice but to respond at this point considering the damage he's taken. Vibes are gonna be really different once he starts swinging that club.
dont see vibes changing much
people expected him to do that from the onset. no one ever thought for one second it was possible for the scabbards to hurt him this much , and no one def thinks scabbards take him down. what we did expect was for kaido to look as great as possible with both the sulong minks and scabbards, for kaido to do enough to make it seem impossible for luffy and his allies to still go in there with a positive result. its actually the opposite now.
to stop this from dragging further
yes he should swing the club. not sure it redeems much of his image cause its clear as day he wasnt going down to the scabbards.
hopefully he switches out of the dragon form
wouldnt have to sit through another 5 chaps of luffy pummelling him as well.
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Kaido will start swinging his club/kanabo soon but I was wondering where does these Zoan DF store their weapon when they fully transformed..
:suresure:
it just appears.
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since kaido is pretty much owned in full zoan by the scabbards
I predict he goes human and hands the scabbards their defeat
allowing the likes of luffy kid etc to step in

they gain the advantage over his human form after a bit and push him to hybrid
he gains a momentary advantage over them
until his inevitable defeat
about 30-40 chaps from now.
 
#70
dont see vibes changing much
people expected him to do that from the onset. no one ever thought for one second it was possible for the scabbards to hurt him this much , and no one def thinks scabbards take him down. what we did expect was for kaido to look as great as possible with both the sulong minks and scabbards, for kaido to do enough to make it seem impossible for luffy and his allies to still go in there with a positive result. its actually the opposite now.
to stop this from dragging further
yes he should swing the club. not sure it redeems much of his image cause its clear as day he wasnt going down to the scabbards.
hopefully he switches out of the dragon form
wouldnt have to sit through another 5 chaps of luffy pummelling him as well.
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it just appears.
Bro If Kaido is Out of that dragon form, the only way to justify him not fodderizing the alliance is if Oda just has Kaido not do anything and just stand there. Kaidos Attack power when he's out of dragon form is disgusting he didnt even harden his club when he one shot G4 luffy. This Dude is gonna be a serious problem when he starts attacking. Which is probably why Odas doing this Dragon form bullshit tbh.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#71
not you
the blokes that think enma is the magic blade
the only blade capable of hurting kaido
the folks who think oden only dissected kaido cause he had enma and not the fact that oden was cutting him up with any blade


reality is
most strong swordsmen are cutting him up
go to the zoro bet thread
see the comments early on about zoro cutting kaido
"not a chance"
"he wont even meet him"

take a look there now and it seems very plausible, but at this point no one thinks its such a great feat anymore because kaido simply what he was hyped up to be. I bet zoro pre enma is still cutting him up.

folks have to keep in mind
kinemon raizo and kiku are as strong as they were 20 yrs ago
and all nine red scabbards were held by queen and king 20 yrs ago. a weaker queen and king I bet. embarassing performance form the so called "peak of the op verse in his prime"
The best comment ive seen was r4mstorm or whatever saying enma attacked sanji by itself.
 
#72
You just saw them repeat Oden's scar. Apply a wound of that size to Kaido's humanoid forms and you have him slashed from head to toe.
No, the dragon form is saving him because it is too huge for their attacks to deal enough damage to it.
Their damage is enough to kill him in smaller forms. His humanoid form wont be doing anything to 9 people.
It is too much to handle for anyone. They arent common weaklings, they are the strongest samurai you will ever see...
Well I guess we'll see what happens. He is for sure not going to defeat them in that dragon form which means it's either base or hybrid and both are "normal" size. Therefore size doesn't matter in this fight, Oda is just messing around, Kaido will fuck them up, hybrid or human form.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#74
Ot doesn't matter how much times those abilities are used. They have that ability according to the story. We don't know all their abilities because its basically the first tike they going all out. We didn't follow their journey. Lets say Brook was an arc villian. We wouldn't know wtf he could do. We wouldn't know he can turn into a damn floating ghost or he npt dead even if you break him apart.

1. They wasn't taken out
2. Yes abilities are used when its time to use them. What kind of nonesense explanation is that. Law not going to do sergery on himself unless he facing somebody with poison. Yes abilities get used in situations its needed. I am sorry this argument is other nonesense.
3. I only brought up Zpro to show i can say anything is plot. Its not a one time thing, its their ability they use when they get severely injured. Just like if Law was an arc boss and lets say Reiju poisoned him. Then he gets up and then she like Wtf. He laughs and says what his fruit can do. You would say the same damn thing.
4. Zoans are more straightforward thats why we know how Kaido abilities work
But it does matter, it is so obvious that those abilities popped out of nowhere with a single purpose - to negate what Law/Wyper did.
We didnt know about them prior those moments, they werent used ever against after those moments, clear case of plot armor.
I am not talking about it from the perspective of the OP world, I am looking at it from the perspective of storytelling.

And from the perspective of storytelling, it has to be Luffy who defeats Doffy and Enel, not Law or Wyper so no matter what they do to them, it is going to be negated in some way - specific story element used solely for that purpose.

1. Yes, they were.
2. Do you know what plot element is? I shouldn't be explaining you that...
3. No, you are using bad example to avoid admitting that the only reason why Enel and Doffy werent taken out is because of an intentional plot element with a specific purpose. A specific plot element brought both back from the dead so Luffy can beat them and wasnt used when Luffy beat them to bring them back again. Double standards or plot element?
4. Yes, that's why Kaido wont be dead like Enel, he will just be defeated. Him dying and reviving would be the asspull I am talking about.

If you disagree fair enough but this is more than obvious for me.
Well I guess we'll see what happens. He is for sure not going to defeat them in that dragon form which means it's either base or hybrid and both are "normal" size. Therefore size doesn't matter in this fight, Oda is just messing around, Kaido will fuck them up, hybrid or human form.
I think he will defeat them/get defeated in dragon form. I am sure Oda wont reveal a hybrid against Scabbards, just like with Jack.
And the base form is too easy for Scabbards, they would be messing him up several times harder than they are doing to dragon form.
 
#79
The fuck are people talking about Scabbards beating Kaido?
:nicagesmile:

Their role is to job for Jesus/Luffy to come in for the rescue. I expect Scabbards to fall from next chapter and onwards. And please let's get rid of this trash ass Dragon mode.

I find it hilarious how 98% of the fandom thought that the Scabbards are hardly even a low diff for Kaido and now Raizo has managed to stand should to shoulder with Jack in power level.

Damn, by this rate, Kinemon will be ~Fujitora by the end of all of this.

The way i see the scaling now:

- Sulong Dukes YC1 ~ Low Top
- Kinemon/Denjiro YC1
- Ashura/Kawamatsu/Izo/Kiku YC2/3
- Raizo YC4

Though. I personally don't see a reason why Raizo should be the weakest scabbard, so i would rate him YC3 alongside the rest of em.

Is this acceptable @ShishioIsBack @Admiral Lee Hung @Fenaker @Shiroyru @Fujishiro @HA001
 
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