Speculations Kaido's fate by the end of this arc
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narrator is the conduit of the story, he's all knowing and has knowledge of everything that is happening, happened and will happen in the story.
kaido attempted suicide fully knowing that he not only made a plan with Apoo but also allied with Doflamingo to start the war. that's basically what he says when survives - "I survived so I guess I'll go through with the plan"
kaido attempted suicide fully knowing that he not only made a plan with Apoo but also allied with Doflamingo to start the war. that's basically what he says when survives - "I survived so I guess I'll go through with the plan"
Either way we should have the answer by the end of the year imo
If ZKK happens then the Ushimaru connection is vital. If his story finishes similar to Bardock's, with the hope that his son can finish what he couldnt, then there is no conceivable way this doesnt end in ZKK.
Im not argueing that Zoro would necessarily care abt his lineage either. Like Goku, hed be finishing the job his father set up to do without even knowing. Itd be more important for the overarching narrative than the character itself.
If ZKK happens then the Ushimaru connection is vital. If his story finishes similar to Bardock's, with the hope that his son can finish what he couldnt, then there is no conceivable way this doesnt end in ZKK.
Im not argueing that Zoro would necessarily care abt his lineage either. Like Goku, hed be finishing the job his father set up to do without even knowing. Itd be more important for the overarching narrative than the character itself.
Zoro will kill Kaido and collect that 4.611.100.000 berry reward for himself. 
I don't remember who said it, but there is this theory:
1. Kaido gets knocked out in a group fight and falls into the seas. With no one to hold Onigashima up, Momo repeats the hour of legend by keeping the island up while the flower capital is evacuated
2. Big Mom defeats Law and Kidd, but not before being dealt a fatal blow. With Kaido seemingly gone, she then decides to overtake Wano as the pirate hive. At the same time BMP finally makes it to Wano and launches an attack.
3. The PNM alliance confronts BMP.
4. Luffy gets juiced up by the Zou elixir and confronts Big Mom. They have a grueling fight which ends with Luffy decisively beating Linlin in a solo fight and turning her permanently into Olin. Meanwhile, PNM alliance also defeats BMP.
5. With all the threats seemingly gone and the dawn nearing, PNM appears to be the winners...but then Momo is attacked by a Boro Breath and loses control of the island.
6. The island's control is overtaken by the returning Kaido in dragon form, who decides, with his crew and masterplan gone, he is gonna commit suicide now and take the whole world with him. Kaido lifts Onigashima over 20,000 meters in the air before letting it drop (basically pulling an Ultron).
7. The PNM puts up together a plan: Onigashima has to be destroyed before it reaches Wano and Kaido has to be killed so that he cannot repeat the process with another island.
8. Through an intricate series of plan, the PNM work together, with Luffy unleashing a gigantic King Kong Bazooka to destroy Onigashima to pieces.
9. With the dawn soon to be breaking, Marco launches Zoro towards Kaido for the final time. Kaido unleashes a gargantuan Boro Breath, but Zoro splits it, channels Asura, and finally kills Kaido atop Wano as the dawn breaks.
This way, Luffy took out BM and an island.
Zoro killed Kaido.
Neither one got overshadowed by the other.
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I don't remember who said it, but there is this theory:
1. Kaido gets knocked out in a group fight and falls into the seas. With no one to hold Onigashima up, Momo repeats the hour of legend by keeping the island up while the flower capital is evacuated
2. Big Mom defeats Law and Kidd, but not before being dealt a fatal blow. With Kaido seemingly gone, she then decides to overtake Wano as the pirate hive. At the same time BMP finally makes it to Wano and launches an attack.
3. The PNM alliance confronts BMP.
4. Luffy gets juiced up by the Zou elixir and confronts Big Mom. They have a grueling fight which ends with Luffy decisively beating Linlin in a solo fight and turning her permanently into Olin. Meanwhile, PNM alliance also defeats BMP.
5. With all the threats seemingly gone and the dawn nearing, PNM appears to be the winners...but then Momo is attacked by a Boro Breath and loses control of the island.
6. The island's control is overtaken by the returning Kaido in dragon form, who decides, with his crew and masterplan gone, he is gonna commit suicide now and take the whole world with him. Kaido lifts Onigashima over 20,000 meters in the air before letting it drop (basically pulling an Ultron).
7. The PNM puts up together a plan: Onigashima has to be destroyed before it reaches Wano and Kaido has to be killed so that he cannot repeat the process with another island.
8. Through an intricate series of plan, the PNM work together, with Luffy unleashing a gigantic King Kong Bazooka to destroy Onigashima to pieces.
9. With the dawn soon to be breaking, Marco launches Zoro towards Kaido for the final time. Kaido unleashes a gargantuan Boro Breath, but Zoro splits it, channels Asura, and finally kills Kaido atop Wano as the dawn breaks.
This way, Luffy took out BM and an island.
Zoro killed Kaido.
Neither one got overshadowed by the other.
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ha zkk running this forum….I like the theory about the road poneglyph being on another Island. Maybe Kaido decided to fall back for whatever reason and we end up finishing the battle there. Too many lengthy plot points are being introduced late and I don’t thing they can be solved by the time onigashima reaches the capital.
As far as how the defeat looks? I don’t really care too much except just want him to go out like a yonko and not someone like Doffy.
As far as how the defeat looks? I don’t really care too much except just want him to go out like a yonko and not someone like Doffy.
Zoro will kill Kaido and collect that 4.611.100.000 berry reward for himself.
I don't remember who said it, but there is this theory:
1. Kaido gets knocked out in a group fight and falls into the seas. With no one to hold Onigashima up, Momo repeats the hour of legend by keeping the island up while the flower capital is evacuated
2. Big Mom defeats Law and Kidd, but not before being dealt a fatal blow. With Kaido seemingly gone, she then decides to overtake Wano as the pirate hive. At the same time BMP finally makes it to Wano and launches an attack.
3. The PNM alliance confronts BMP.
4. Luffy gets juiced up by the Zou elixir and confronts Big Mom. They have a grueling fight which ends with Luffy decisively beating Linlin in a solo fight and turning her permanently into Olin. Meanwhile, PNM alliance also defeats BMP.
5. With all the threats seemingly gone and the dawn nearing, PNM appears to be the winners...but then Momo is attacked by a Boro Breath and loses control of the island.
6. The island's control is overtaken by the returning Kaido in dragon form, who decides, with his crew and masterplan gone, he is gonna commit suicide now and take the whole world with him. Kaido lifts Onigashima over 20,000 meters in the air before letting it drop (basically pulling an Ultron).
7. The PNM puts up together a plan: Onigashima has to be destroyed before it reaches Wano and Kaido has to be killed so that he cannot repeat the process with another island.
8. Through an intricate series of plan, the PNM work together, with Luffy unleashing a gigantic King Kong Bazooka to destroy Onigashima to pieces.
9. With the dawn soon to be breaking, Marco launches Zoro towards Kaido for the final time. Kaido unleashes a gargantuan Boro Breath, but Zoro splits it, channels Asura, and finally kills Kaido atop Wano as the dawn breaks.
This way, Luffy took out BM and an island.
Zoro killed Kaido.
Neither one got overshadowed by the other.
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I don't remember who said it, but there is this theory:
1. Kaido gets knocked out in a group fight and falls into the seas. With no one to hold Onigashima up, Momo repeats the hour of legend by keeping the island up while the flower capital is evacuated
2. Big Mom defeats Law and Kidd, but not before being dealt a fatal blow. With Kaido seemingly gone, she then decides to overtake Wano as the pirate hive. At the same time BMP finally makes it to Wano and launches an attack.
3. The PNM alliance confronts BMP.
4. Luffy gets juiced up by the Zou elixir and confronts Big Mom. They have a grueling fight which ends with Luffy decisively beating Linlin in a solo fight and turning her permanently into Olin. Meanwhile, PNM alliance also defeats BMP.
5. With all the threats seemingly gone and the dawn nearing, PNM appears to be the winners...but then Momo is attacked by a Boro Breath and loses control of the island.
6. The island's control is overtaken by the returning Kaido in dragon form, who decides, with his crew and masterplan gone, he is gonna commit suicide now and take the whole world with him. Kaido lifts Onigashima over 20,000 meters in the air before letting it drop (basically pulling an Ultron).
7. The PNM puts up together a plan: Onigashima has to be destroyed before it reaches Wano and Kaido has to be killed so that he cannot repeat the process with another island.
8. Through an intricate series of plan, the PNM work together, with Luffy unleashing a gigantic King Kong Bazooka to destroy Onigashima to pieces.
9. With the dawn soon to be breaking, Marco launches Zoro towards Kaido for the final time. Kaido unleashes a gargantuan Boro Breath, but Zoro splits it, channels Asura, and finally kills Kaido atop Wano as the dawn breaks.
This way, Luffy took out BM and an island.
Zoro killed Kaido.
Neither one got overshadowed by the other.
I believe Kaido can only be defeated by being killed/beheaded!
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Zoro will kill Kaido and collect that 4.611.100.000 berry reward for himself.
I don't remember who said it, but there is this theory:
1. Kaido gets knocked out in a group fight and falls into the seas. With no one to hold Onigashima up, Momo repeats the hour of legend by keeping the island up while the flower capital is evacuated
2. Big Mom defeats Law and Kidd, but not before being dealt a fatal blow. With Kaido seemingly gone, she then decides to overtake Wano as the pirate hive. At the same time BMP finally makes it to Wano and launches an attack.
3. The PNM alliance confronts BMP.
4. Luffy gets juiced up by the Zou elixir and confronts Big Mom. They have a grueling fight which ends with Luffy decisively beating Linlin in a solo fight and turning her permanently into Olin. Meanwhile, PNM alliance also defeats BMP.
5. With all the threats seemingly gone and the dawn nearing, PNM appears to be the winners...but then Momo is attacked by a Boro Breath and loses control of the island.
6. The island's control is overtaken by the returning Kaido in dragon form, who decides, with his crew and masterplan gone, he is gonna commit suicide now and take the whole world with him. Kaido lifts Onigashima over 20,000 meters in the air before letting it drop (basically pulling an Ultron).
7. The PNM puts up together a plan: Onigashima has to be destroyed before it reaches Wano and Kaido has to be killed so that he cannot repeat the process with another island.
8. Through an intricate series of plan, the PNM work together, with Luffy unleashing a gigantic King Kong Bazooka to destroy Onigashima to pieces.
9. With the dawn soon to be breaking, Marco launches Zoro towards Kaido for the final time. Kaido unleashes a gargantuan Boro Breath, but Zoro splits it, channels Asura, and finally kills Kaido atop Wano as the dawn breaks.
This way, Luffy took out BM and an island.
Zoro killed Kaido.
Neither one got overshadowed by the other.
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I don't remember who said it, but there is this theory:
1. Kaido gets knocked out in a group fight and falls into the seas. With no one to hold Onigashima up, Momo repeats the hour of legend by keeping the island up while the flower capital is evacuated
2. Big Mom defeats Law and Kidd, but not before being dealt a fatal blow. With Kaido seemingly gone, she then decides to overtake Wano as the pirate hive. At the same time BMP finally makes it to Wano and launches an attack.
3. The PNM alliance confronts BMP.
4. Luffy gets juiced up by the Zou elixir and confronts Big Mom. They have a grueling fight which ends with Luffy decisively beating Linlin in a solo fight and turning her permanently into Olin. Meanwhile, PNM alliance also defeats BMP.
5. With all the threats seemingly gone and the dawn nearing, PNM appears to be the winners...but then Momo is attacked by a Boro Breath and loses control of the island.
6. The island's control is overtaken by the returning Kaido in dragon form, who decides, with his crew and masterplan gone, he is gonna commit suicide now and take the whole world with him. Kaido lifts Onigashima over 20,000 meters in the air before letting it drop (basically pulling an Ultron).
7. The PNM puts up together a plan: Onigashima has to be destroyed before it reaches Wano and Kaido has to be killed so that he cannot repeat the process with another island.
8. Through an intricate series of plan, the PNM work together, with Luffy unleashing a gigantic King Kong Bazooka to destroy Onigashima to pieces.
9. With the dawn soon to be breaking, Marco launches Zoro towards Kaido for the final time. Kaido unleashes a gargantuan Boro Breath, but Zoro splits it, channels Asura, and finally kills Kaido atop Wano as the dawn breaks.
This way, Luffy took out BM and an island.
Zoro killed Kaido.
Neither one got overshadowed by the other.
BM will be finished by Kidd!
I still think hes going to end as most villains do. With Luffy defeating the main villain.
That being said, I can see Oda doing something similar to Alabasta and Thriller bark where the victory is done through the straw hats setting up the final hit for Luffy.
Something like, Kaido decides that this may be his defeat once he sees the might of the straw hat crew and decides to destroy Wano and leave. He begins to fly off and the straw hats get an exhausted Luffy there:
Brook creates a massive ice ramp slide, Franky uses the scrap metal kid brought to construct an aerodynamic vehicle, Robin uses her hands to create a massive slingshot for it and chopper uses monster point and Jinbe to pull it back.
The East blue 5 take off through the ramp into the sky, as the ship needs more speed Usopp and Nami in tandem shoot off an attack to make them go faster. Once they get into a better position Sanji lights up and shoots Zoro and Luffy through a flaming Armee de l’air. Zoro then shoots Luffy towards Kaido with a Pound cannon and during this Luffy transforms into his ultimate gear and uses one last attack while being boosted by Zoros Attack and engulfed in Sanjis fire to send Kaido to the ground of the fire festival below.
Mirroring Luffys first victory over a warlord where the straw hats combine their effort to stop crocodiles plan as Luffy sends the villain up into the air for all to see. As well as mirroring Thriller Bark where Oars was defeated due to the straw hats constructing a device and getting oars into a position for Luffy to crush his spine by creating a device to and getting Luffy into a position for Luffy to send Kaido crashing into the earth creating a crater like Kaidos introduction but dragon but this time him being knocked out and defeated.
This is the basic vibe I feel Oda will go far where Luffy will defeat Kaido but the crew will be involve
That being said, I can see Oda doing something similar to Alabasta and Thriller bark where the victory is done through the straw hats setting up the final hit for Luffy.
Something like, Kaido decides that this may be his defeat once he sees the might of the straw hat crew and decides to destroy Wano and leave. He begins to fly off and the straw hats get an exhausted Luffy there:
Brook creates a massive ice ramp slide, Franky uses the scrap metal kid brought to construct an aerodynamic vehicle, Robin uses her hands to create a massive slingshot for it and chopper uses monster point and Jinbe to pull it back.
The East blue 5 take off through the ramp into the sky, as the ship needs more speed Usopp and Nami in tandem shoot off an attack to make them go faster. Once they get into a better position Sanji lights up and shoots Zoro and Luffy through a flaming Armee de l’air. Zoro then shoots Luffy towards Kaido with a Pound cannon and during this Luffy transforms into his ultimate gear and uses one last attack while being boosted by Zoros Attack and engulfed in Sanjis fire to send Kaido to the ground of the fire festival below.
Mirroring Luffys first victory over a warlord where the straw hats combine their effort to stop crocodiles plan as Luffy sends the villain up into the air for all to see. As well as mirroring Thriller Bark where Oars was defeated due to the straw hats constructing a device and getting oars into a position for Luffy to crush his spine by creating a device to and getting Luffy into a position for Luffy to send Kaido crashing into the earth creating a crater like Kaidos introduction but dragon but this time him being knocked out and defeated.
This is the basic vibe I feel Oda will go far where Luffy will defeat Kaido but the crew will be involve