Powers & Abilities Keeping up with the King of Hell - Sisyphean Task [Luffybros edition]

Is Kaido going to trash Luffy again?

  • Of course he will.

  • No, look at the damaji Luffy is doing!!!


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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
As if you could make a thread that wasn't a zoro wank :milaugh:

Zoro won't fight Kaido again.
Dont sabotage yourself like that...

Can you answer my question? Can Zoro defeat Kaido fresh or not?
Yes, that's the whole point of Zoro arriving at Onigashima - to cut into pieces the one who is called the strongest in the world.
Zoro is there to dethrone Kaido as WSC.
Kill someone already defeated isn't a big deal at all.
It is a big deal considering that his toughness doesnt change regardless if he is defeated or not and he wont be defeated anyway...
Cope? Can Zoro defeat Kaido ?
Yes, yes and 100 times more yes. Zoro is the only one who can do it in a fresh state 1vs1.

Some opinions are just objectively true.
Yes, such as those that Zoro does everything 100 times better than Luffy.
Similarly, when Luffy is 1v1ing kaido and Zoro 1v1ed King, why is claiming Luffy>Zoro indicative of any sort of favoritism or bias?
Because you think 1vs1 Kaido is that only Luffy can do while Zoro cant while this thread literally has shown you that Zoro does everything better than Luffy, a lot better. If aCoC has given Luffy the chance to do keep up with Kaido for a while, imagine what aCoC has done for the one who was slashing Kaido's chest open without aCoC... Luffybros are truly clueless...
I dont even read that shitkingufy
I am surprised and insulted, Steven. :kriwhat:

Seeing the embarrassing performance of Oda's rubber spoiled kid makes me want Im-sama to be the one that defeats EoS BB instead. :steef:
I hear you, brother. Blackbeard deserves better. :josad:
Zoro's whole character relies on hype moments. One-shots and limited moves.

A shallow character whose only saving grace is overpowering his opponets in one-shot.
Do you not understand Zoro or sword fights in general, or both?
This is war, not a circus competition about diversity... Zoro is the god of war.
Luffy is the clown that provides entertainment.
Dont expect a warrior to behave like Luffy.

I have Zoro's attacks above that of Luffy anyways but i just don't see Zoro going back and forth with a serious Hybrid Kaido in close combat.
:kayneshrug:
Since when is the goal of a fight to go back and forth with Kaido?
The goal is to beat him, not stall him. Back and forth is a 100% guaranteed loss.
You dont use that strategy against Kaido because he will outlast anyone.
Zoro was clear about that on the rooftop, dragging the fight out is suicide.
And if aCoC allowed Luffy to go back and forth with Kaido, aCoC doesnt allow the same to Zoro? :saden:
Not that he is after that, just saying...

Nik's at least dedicated to his Luffy anti wank lmao.
What anti wank, dear Sen-chan?! :crazwhat:
All I did in this thread was list factual things.
 
Right off the bat, this is a Zoro wank thread, strictly factual!

This is my second to last Zoro wank thread in Wano, the last one coming after the arc wraps up. Looking forward to it.
It doesn't take much for Luffybros and the entire fandom to go nuts and forget how crazy powerful Zoro is. Recency bias is strong in this one...
Telling Luffybros that their hype train is unjustified makes me feel like Moe-chan who made it his life's mission to balance out Zoro's "overhype"...
But unlike in Moe-chan's case, my preaching bore fruit while Moe-chan's had the opposite result. Either way, feels like:


Anyway, back to the King of Hell and the fool's errand that is the effort of trying to keep up with Zoro. It is simply impossible and you are about to see why.
Usually, it is Sanji fandom that wishes their favorite to be like Zoro but when you look closer, Luffybros are guilty of it more than Sanjibros.
Whatever Zoro has achieved, they have automatically attached it to their boy despite being proven wrong countless times.
And since Luffy's fights are always scheduled after Zoro's fights, recency bias kicks in and as soon as their favorite takes a breath, they lose it...

Luffybros, how do you expect to keep up with someone as ridiculously powerful as Zoro who holds the best feats in the world?
How can you expect the most ineffective fighter(Luffy) in the world to be comparable to the most effective fighter(Zoro)?
We have all seen how Luffy performs in post-TS. Whether it is Hody Jones, Fujitora, Yonko commanders, Yonkos themselves, Zoro clowns Luffy's performance.
Zoro neg diffed Hody in his element, underwater, while Luffy almost died trying to beat him inside air bubble on Noah where Hody isnt in his element...
Against Fujitora, Zoro had equal portrayal on 2 separate occasions and took over after Fujitora negged Luffy with first named attack...

Against Yonko commanders, Luffy humiliated himself by being unable to score a convincing victory after 11 hours of fight despite having help in both fights.
Cracker completely neutralized everything he had to offer and without Nami and Seducing Woods, Luffy would have died... Nami had to soften the biscuits so Luffy can eat them and Cracker had to jump into his stomach to be sent flying otherwise Luffy accomplished nothing, not even a single hit landed on Cracker...
That Luffy was considered stronger than Zoro by Luffybros.


Then comes Katakuri where Luffy again needs 11 hours of fighting and help from Katakuri himself as well as Brulee who saves him in the most critical moment of the fight except the one where Katakuri decided to stab himself to help Luffy... Katakuri also had to leave the fight once for a donut break so Luffy could stay alive while buried under mochi, instead of staying there and skewering him with a trident while he cannot move... The fight ends with Luffy collapsing first and then waking up to Katakuri deciding to fall because during the fight, Luffy won him over to his side and Katakuri became a cheerleader...

Luffybros on the hype train, flying higher than ever, claiming their boy is now untouchable and that he surpassed the commanders, Wano arrives and a wake-up call happens. Kaido neg diffs Luffy's consciousness and all the hype out of the train that Luffybros boarded. The great depression sets in. Luffybros looking for crumbs to put their ego back together, ride the hype of Udon training and ID CoA, saying the same thing their favorite says - Just you wait Kaido... Their eyes set on Kaido, once again claiming that Zoro is nothing compared to Luffy...

The unthinkable happens! Zoro arrived at the rooftop!!! Luffybros felt uneasiness because the stupid Zorotards were right, Zoro will fight Kaido! However, they still have hope because Killer, Kidd and Law are there too and "Luffy is so much better than them" so he is better than Zoro as well. Or so they thought... The peak of desperation kicks in when Luffy ran out of haki during a fruitless effort against Kaido in his strongest gear and Zoro had to cut Kaido up to get Luffy out of Kaido's jaws... Crying and blaming Oda, not believing what their eyes see, that a mere underling is besting Kaido at every encounter they have and remembering Luffy's first encounter with Kaido that brought them down out of the clouds...

How do you plan to compete with a warrior while you stan a survivor? Luffy doesnt have the greatest warrior soul, Zoro does. Luffy is not a good combatant, Zoro is. Every Strawhat member is the best at their job in the whole world so Luffy cannot be better than Zoro at Zoro's job - fighting. In childhood, Luffy was trying to survive in the jungle while Zoro was fighting grown up swordsmen. During time skip, Luffy again is doodling around in a jungle while Zoro is facing one of the two World's Strongest people. Luffybros conclude that Luffy is stronger, over and over, despite all the failures that keep happening right in front of their eyes...

Luffy is not the one who brought the national treasure Shusui back into Wano, symbolizing the end of dark days. Zoro did. Hyogoro and Kawamatsu didnt say that it must be fate that Luffy is one-eyed Samurai just like their Sword God. They said it about Zoro. The mighty samurai stronger than Oden is not Luffy, it is Zoro. All the plot points in Wano dont revolve around Luffy, they revolve around Zoro. Luffy cant become a sword god, Zoro can. Luffy cant forge a black blade, Zoro can.

Zoro negs Hody, Luffy struggles with Hody after Zoro negged him:
Zoro standing on equal ground with Fujitora while Fujitora negs Luffy:
Zoro's overwhelming victory vs commander while Luffy fails to acheive the same, twice, vs far weaker commanders:
How Zoro's first encounter with Kaido ends compared to how Luffy's first, second, third and fourth encounter ended:
How the warrior faces Hakai compared to how survivor faces Hakai:

If Zoro clowns Luffy at facing Hody, facing Fujitora, facing commanders, facing Kaido and facing Hakai on top of everything else, how can you still be delusional that Luffy is better than Zoro at anything, at any point in time? I know Luffybros are clueless when it comes OP combat but I dont know how yall manage to pull that off for years and years...

What delusional Luffybros do since chapter 923:
Look at the damaji he is doing!!!

Look at the damaji he is doing!!!


Look at the damaji he is doing!!!

Look at the damaji he is doing!!!

Look at the damaji he is doing!!!

Look at the damaji he is doing!!!


How many times have y'all been clowned during Wano alone for riding empty hype? 4-5 times already? And you still didnt learn? Are you capable of learning?
How much water has to flow by for you to understand something as basic as there is no competing with Zoro?

Making ridiculous claims as base Luffy equal to Kaido, base Luffy is top tier, Luffy this, Luffy that, only ends up backfiring because none of those claims have the slightest amount of logic in them. If base Luffy is all that you claim, why will he need gears? You keep digging your own grave... If he is stronger than Kaido in G4, why will he need Awakening? Why will he need any of the future power-ups if what you claim is true? Maybe because what you claim isnt true? Maybe because Luffy is still not a top tier with everything that he has? Maybe because even with future power-ups he will still struggle with top tiers who are weaker than Kaido, without 15 people helping him as they did against Kaido?

Riding the hype of sky split? Another gravedigger. What about all his hits after that which didnt split the sky?
Riding the hype of knocking Kaido off of his feet? Another gravedigger. What about all the hits that didnt knock him off of his feet?
Have you asked yourselves why is Kaido standing up from everything that Luffy throws at him?
Have you wondered what is the thing that he wont stand up from?

How do you picture the failure of a combatant that is Luffy to compete with the monster that is Zoro?
How do you beat the performance that is cutting through a large magma dragon, a Hardened sword and a Lunarian who is buffed by an Ancient Zoan, all at the same time while blitzing him from a large distance, in mid-air of all things and all of that under 15 freaking minutes? :crazwhat:
What does it take for you to understand that all those hits that Luffy delivered to Kaido, combined, will be beaten by one slash from Zoro?
Why does it take so little for you all to go delusional?

You picked the wrong guy to bet against, especially in this arc, never forget that.
The days of joking around are over, you are chasing Zoro's feats and you will never catch up! :cheers:
Wont stop you from going delusional again when 2x hits Zoro or when Luffy goes G4 and you once again say the same:

The last Zoro wank thread, in the Wano edition, will be a summary and far longer than this one, prepare yourselves!

This is one sir is what I call an all-in

 
“One by one, he turns the people around him into his allies. More than anyone else sailing the seas… That man possesses the most terrifying power” -WSS

Luffy fans don't understand their favorite character. :josad:

Good on Luffy for recruiting the greatest/strongest warrior ever. I truly hope Luffybros won't feel too bad when that warrior inevitably takes Kaido's head.
 
I keep seeing that Luffy fans are “pressed” but they arent the ones making threads like these though.
The average Luffy fan is a MC dick ridder, they don't know or care about OP, they don't discuss OP, that's your average Luffy fan, Luffy is one of my faves but since I'm not a MC cuck i can't relate with the average Luffy fan.
Who even cries about who's the MC, you don't read the story, Boruto could be the MC of OP and you would still shill him. :josad:
 
Luffy stock suddenly rising, and Zoro wankers already dedicated their full force on wanking Zoro and slandering Luffy and his fans for his achievements against Kaido.




Same shit happens with Sanji and his fans.


Luffy fandom x Sanji fandom alliance vs Zoro fandom soon?
You mean it takes Pirate Jesus and the Cook to team up to even register as a challenge for the Grandmaster? :hohoho:

How true to canon. EoS Zoro Top 1 confirmed. :arnoling:
 
Kaido fought multiple rounds against different people, eating damage without rest while constantly lifting an island, meanwhile Luffy took a rest, ate and came back stronger. And even then Luffy is close to his limit.
Kinda funny how you mention the people Kaido has fought yet don't say anything about all the people Luffy fought too lmao.

Only valid point is that Kaido can't go 100% while lifting Onigashima. But him being more hurt/tired than Luffy is not true.
 
Kinda funny how you mention the people Kaido has fought yet don't say anything about all the people Luffy fought too lmao.

Only valid point is that Kaido can't go 100% while lifting Onigashima. But him being more hurt/tired than Luffy is not true.
The difference is that Luffy has received essentially all of his damage strictly from Kaido and has even been healed in the middle of the fight, while Kaido has received damage from tons of people. I don't really remember who else Luffy fought besides fodders who didn't damage him and like Ulti.

It's not about Kaido just being weakened, it's about Kaido being weakened by people other than Luffy, while you can't really say the same about Luffy's damage
 
The difference is that Luffy has received essentially all of his damage strictly from Kaido and has even been healed in the middle of the fight, while Kaido has received damage from tons of people. I don't really remember who else Luffy fought besides fodders who didn't damage him and like Ulti.

It's not about Kaido just being weakened, it's about Kaido being weakened by people other than Luffy, while you can't really say the same about Luffy's damage
Not true considering he ate damage from Big Mom Apoo and Ulti. One of those three knocked him out, Kaido hasn't been knocked out.

Ane even if you were right and only Kaido hurt Luffy it wouldn't change anything because that was in a previous fight. What ultimately matters is if Luffy is more fresh than Kaido when the last round starts he will have an unfair advantage, but he clearly was not lmao. It hurts more to lose a fight than to win it, so Luffy can't be more fresh than Kaido.

Btw Luffy knows Kaido can't go all out while holding the island and that's probably why he's fighting him without going all out (using gears etc).

When Kaido stops using his power to lift the island he will dominate Luffy. Then Luffy will go Gear 5 or whatever and the real fight will start. The current stage is just filler and Oda setting everything up.
 
Yes, such as those that Zoro does everything 100 times better than Luffy.
not only is this statement wrong, Oda directly addressed it in the manga in one of the first arcs.

Luffy: I can't use a sword, cook, or tell lies
Arlong: you are worthless, why do you deserve to be captain? Just what can you do?
Luffy: I can beat you

Zoro can't beat opponents that are far stronger than him like Luffy can. He simply doesn't have the willpower. Luffy gets defeated multiple times each arc and finds the strength to keep fighting regardless. Zoro got beat once and cried like a bitch.
 
Zoro got beat once and cried like a bitch.



So triggered you have started spouting bs where is the cries when Zoro was defeated against Kuma in this hopeless situation, almost every opponent Zoro has overcome that gave him difficulty were overcome with incredible will power. You are talking about one time against Mihawk at the start of the series how desperate do you have to be to cling to that
 
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You realize that Luffy and Sanji fans almost always team up on Zoro fans already? lol
I dunno man, there's a difference between Luffy/Sanji fans and Zoro haters in general.
You mean it takes Pirate Jesus and the Cook to team up to even register as a challenge for the Grandmaster? :hohoho:

How true to canon. EoS Zoro Top 1 confirmed. :arnoling:
Whatever you say fam.:myman:
 
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