Questions & Mysteries Kid, the path to his glory
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A fraction of Hakai which was "few seconds" is still just like any attack but stronger. If he took it all he could have died.
Those "DD" are not even close to Hakai tho.. ACoC or not. Even if he took multiple hits of those. The fact that a Fresh Kid couldn't stand up from a weaker attack aka Kamusari should tell us he is not that durable.
Shanks 1 shotting Zoro is possible yes but since Kid was KOed by Kamusari we need another victim to clarify preferably Luffy or Zoro. If Luffy could withstand it. Then Zoro should be able to at least stand up even if he can't continue the fight.
Like how much is Kamusari compared to few seconds of Hakai? I am willing to say that Shanks has more up his sleeves and Kamusari is comparable to Ragnaraku which knocked out pre acoc Luffy. So realistically both Luffy and Zoro should be fine if they took Kamusari head on but are still damaged by it.
So yea Shanks could 1 shot Zoro using a higher damage attack.
Those "DD" are not even close to Hakai tho.. ACoC or not. Even if he took multiple hits of those. The fact that a Fresh Kid couldn't stand up from a weaker attack aka Kamusari should tell us he is not that durable.
Shanks 1 shotting Zoro is possible yes but since Kid was KOed by Kamusari we need another victim to clarify preferably Luffy or Zoro. If Luffy could withstand it. Then Zoro should be able to at least stand up even if he can't continue the fight.
Like how much is Kamusari compared to few seconds of Hakai? I am willing to say that Shanks has more up his sleeves and Kamusari is comparable to Ragnaraku which knocked out pre acoc Luffy. So realistically both Luffy and Zoro should be fine if they took Kamusari head on but are still damaged by it.
So yea Shanks could 1 shot Zoro using a higher damage attack.
I agree with most of your points, however I disagree about him fighting Greenbull.
I believe the next person he will fight, will be Luffy.
Explained it in more detail here - https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/#post-5488609
Essentially, Shanks/Giants will be the catalyst for Luffy/Kidd to fight at Elbaf.
We know Kidd and Luffy have quite different relationships with Shanks. Luffy views shanks as a hero/someone to admire, while Kidd views him as the complete opposite. Something interesting people never mention, is that Kidd was going after Shanks BEFORE his arm was taken.
After the incident at the coast of elbaf, with his crew and ship destroyed (His ship was named after the girl he loved..)...What will happen when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?
And also, Dorry/Broggy are the ones, who ultimately destroyed his ship in the end, what will happen when Kidd, sees Luffy's relationship with them?
And we know the Ship was named after victoria punk...Knowing Kidd's character, conflict is very likely to occur.
And there are also recent signs oda has given us..
Some very strange comments from Demaro black comparing Captain Kidd to Joyboy?
I could go on, but I genuinely believe Kidd will fight Luffy at Elbaf. I will take any bets on this
Regarding these comments, see a lot of zoro fans mentioning Hakai...forgetting kidd took a full ikoku (which is atleast 50% of hakai) point blank without blocking at all.. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kidd-vs-zoro-durability-endurance.52216/
And as I've said countless, the number one haters of Eustass Kidd are zoro fans and always will be lol. We'll starting see a lot more threads like during wano when he comes back and starts fighting another stronger character than Zoro.
I'm also seeing comments from people that think Shanks broke his will? Not even Kaido could break his will, hes a conqueror for a reason. If anything this will make his will even stronger.
And regarding the rest of these comments, Law fans/Sanji fans etc, have started to accept what Zoro fans push lol, which is funny honestly.
If people want to deny the obvious, thats fine. The story will speak for itself. Elbaf will end all agendas against Captain Kidd. Zoro fans better pray Luffy/Kidd never interact at Elbaf. Imagine what this forum would be like if Luffy Kidd actually fight?
I believe the next person he will fight, will be Luffy.
Explained it in more detail here - https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/#post-5488609
Essentially, Shanks/Giants will be the catalyst for Luffy/Kidd to fight at Elbaf.
We know Kidd and Luffy have quite different relationships with Shanks. Luffy views shanks as a hero/someone to admire, while Kidd views him as the complete opposite. Something interesting people never mention, is that Kidd was going after Shanks BEFORE his arm was taken.
After the incident at the coast of elbaf, with his crew and ship destroyed (His ship was named after the girl he loved..)...What will happen when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?
And also, Dorry/Broggy are the ones, who ultimately destroyed his ship in the end, what will happen when Kidd, sees Luffy's relationship with them?
And we know the Ship was named after victoria punk...Knowing Kidd's character, conflict is very likely to occur.
And there are also recent signs oda has given us..
Some very strange comments from Demaro black comparing Captain Kidd to Joyboy?
I could go on, but I genuinely believe Kidd will fight Luffy at Elbaf. I will take any bets on this
Doesn't change the fact he is shit. During 4 years he did nothing and people (or should I say those 10 peoples) are still expecting something from him 
Regarding these comments, see a lot of zoro fans mentioning Hakai...forgetting kidd took a full ikoku (which is atleast 50% of hakai) point blank without blocking at all.. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kidd-vs-zoro-durability-endurance.52216/
And as I've said countless, the number one haters of Eustass Kidd are zoro fans and always will be lol. We'll starting see a lot more threads like during wano when he comes back and starts fighting another stronger character than Zoro.
I'm also seeing comments from people that think Shanks broke his will? Not even Kaido could break his will, hes a conqueror for a reason. If anything this will make his will even stronger.
And regarding the rest of these comments, Law fans/Sanji fans etc, have started to accept what Zoro fans push lol, which is funny honestly.
If people want to deny the obvious, thats fine. The story will speak for itself. Elbaf will end all agendas against Captain Kidd. Zoro fans better pray Luffy/Kidd never interact at Elbaf. Imagine what this forum would be like if Luffy Kidd actually fight?
Even Thriller Bark, Long Ring Long Land?
I believe that Kid is in Elbaf and he gonna interact with Luffy again. But he is not in the race anymore. I also believe Oda will give to him a very strong opponent in the final war
I agree with most of your points, however I disagree about him fighting Greenbull.
I believe the next person he will fight, will be Luffy.
Explained it in more detail here - https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/#post-5488609
Essentially, Shanks/Giants will be the catalyst for Luffy/Kidd to fight at Elbaf.
We know Kidd and Luffy have quite different relationships with Shanks. Luffy views shanks as a hero/someone to admire, while Kidd views him as the complete opposite. Something interesting people never mention, is that Kidd was going after Shanks BEFORE his arm was taken.
After the incident at the coast of elbaf, with his crew and ship destroyed (His ship was named after the girl he loved..)...What will happen when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?
And also, Dorry/Broggy are the ones, who ultimately destroyed his ship in the end, what will happen when Kidd, sees Luffy's relationship with them?
And we know the Ship was named after victoria punk...Knowing Kidd's character, conflict is very likely to occur.
And there are also recent signs oda has given us..
Some very strange comments from Demaro black comparing Captain Kidd to Joyboy?
I could go on, but I genuinely believe Kidd will fight Luffy at Elbaf. I will take any bets on this
Regarding these comments, see a lot of zoro fans mentioning Hakai...forgetting kidd took a full ikoku (which is atleast 50% of hakai) point blank without blocking at all.. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kidd-vs-zoro-durability-endurance.52216/
And as I've said countless, the number one haters of Eustass Kidd are zoro fans and always will be lol. We'll starting see a lot more threads like during wano when he comes back and starts fighting another stronger character than Zoro.
I'm also seeing comments from people that think Shanks broke his will? Not even Kaido could break his will, hes a conqueror for a reason. If anything this will make his will even stronger.
And regarding the rest of these comments, Law fans/Sanji fans etc, have started to accept what Zoro fans push lol, which is funny honestly.
If people want to deny the obvious, thats fine. The story will speak for itself. Elbaf will end all agendas against Captain Kidd. Zoro fans better pray Luffy/Kidd never interact at Elbaf. Imagine what this forum would be like if Luffy Kidd actually fight?
I believe the next person he will fight, will be Luffy.
Explained it in more detail here - https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/#post-5488609
Essentially, Shanks/Giants will be the catalyst for Luffy/Kidd to fight at Elbaf.
We know Kidd and Luffy have quite different relationships with Shanks. Luffy views shanks as a hero/someone to admire, while Kidd views him as the complete opposite. Something interesting people never mention, is that Kidd was going after Shanks BEFORE his arm was taken.
After the incident at the coast of elbaf, with his crew and ship destroyed (His ship was named after the girl he loved..)...What will happen when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?
And also, Dorry/Broggy are the ones, who ultimately destroyed his ship in the end, what will happen when Kidd, sees Luffy's relationship with them?
And we know the Ship was named after victoria punk...Knowing Kidd's character, conflict is very likely to occur.
And there are also recent signs oda has given us..
Some very strange comments from Demaro black comparing Captain Kidd to Joyboy?
I could go on, but I genuinely believe Kidd will fight Luffy at Elbaf. I will take any bets on this
Regarding these comments, see a lot of zoro fans mentioning Hakai...forgetting kidd took a full ikoku (which is atleast 50% of hakai) point blank without blocking at all.. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kidd-vs-zoro-durability-endurance.52216/
And as I've said countless, the number one haters of Eustass Kidd are zoro fans and always will be lol. We'll starting see a lot more threads like during wano when he comes back and starts fighting another stronger character than Zoro.
I'm also seeing comments from people that think Shanks broke his will? Not even Kaido could break his will, hes a conqueror for a reason. If anything this will make his will even stronger.
And regarding the rest of these comments, Law fans/Sanji fans etc, have started to accept what Zoro fans push lol, which is funny honestly.
If people want to deny the obvious, thats fine. The story will speak for itself. Elbaf will end all agendas against Captain Kidd. Zoro fans better pray Luffy/Kidd never interact at Elbaf. Imagine what this forum would be like if Luffy Kidd actually fight?
But why Thriller Bark would be much better than WCI? The villain is considered for a lot of people as one of the worst villains in the series. His sidekicks are also one of the worst (absalom and hogback)
I also like Thriller Bark, I'm just saying that because it seem some people doesnt criticize the bad aspects of the pre time skip, only of the post time skip (ik pos time skip has more problems), but I guess you understood
I also like Thriller Bark, I'm just saying that because it seem some people doesnt criticize the bad aspects of the pre time skip, only of the post time skip (ik pos time skip has more problems), but I guess you understood
I agree with most of your points, however I disagree about him fighting Greenbull.
I believe the next person he will fight, will be Luffy.
Explained it in more detail here - https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/#post-5488609
Essentially, Shanks/Giants will be the catalyst for Luffy/Kidd to fight at Elbaf.
We know Kidd and Luffy have quite different relationships with Shanks. Luffy views shanks as a hero/someone to admire, while Kidd views him as the complete opposite. Something interesting people never mention, is that Kidd was going after Shanks BEFORE his arm was taken.
After the incident at the coast of elbaf, with his crew and ship destroyed (His ship was named after the girl he loved..)...What will happen when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?
And also, Dorry/Broggy are the ones, who ultimately destroyed his ship in the end, what will happen when Kidd, sees Luffy's relationship with them?
And we know the Ship was named after victoria punk...Knowing Kidd's character, conflict is very likely to occur.
And there are also recent signs oda has given us..
Some very strange comments from Demaro black comparing Captain Kidd to Joyboy?
I could go on, but I genuinely believe Kidd will fight Luffy at Elbaf. I will take any bets on this
Regarding these comments, see a lot of zoro fans mentioning Hakai...forgetting kidd took a full ikoku (which is atleast 50% of hakai) point blank without blocking at all.. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kidd-vs-zoro-durability-endurance.52216/
And as I've said countless, the number one haters of Eustass Kidd are zoro fans and always will be lol. We'll starting see a lot more threads like during wano when he comes back and starts fighting another stronger character than Zoro.
I'm also seeing comments from people that think Shanks broke his will? Not even Kaido could break his will, hes a conqueror for a reason. If anything this will make his will even stronger.
And regarding the rest of these comments, Law fans/Sanji fans etc, have started to accept what Zoro fans push lol, which is funny honestly.
If people want to deny the obvious, thats fine. The story will speak for itself. Elbaf will end all agendas against Captain Kidd. Zoro fans better pray Luffy/Kidd never interact at Elbaf. Imagine what this forum would be like if Luffy Kidd actually fight?
I believe the next person he will fight, will be Luffy.
Explained it in more detail here - https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...will-fight-luffy-at-elbaf.58033/#post-5488609
Essentially, Shanks/Giants will be the catalyst for Luffy/Kidd to fight at Elbaf.
We know Kidd and Luffy have quite different relationships with Shanks. Luffy views shanks as a hero/someone to admire, while Kidd views him as the complete opposite. Something interesting people never mention, is that Kidd was going after Shanks BEFORE his arm was taken.
After the incident at the coast of elbaf, with his crew and ship destroyed (His ship was named after the girl he loved..)...What will happen when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks?
And also, Dorry/Broggy are the ones, who ultimately destroyed his ship in the end, what will happen when Kidd, sees Luffy's relationship with them?
And we know the Ship was named after victoria punk...Knowing Kidd's character, conflict is very likely to occur.
And there are also recent signs oda has given us..
Some very strange comments from Demaro black comparing Captain Kidd to Joyboy?
I could go on, but I genuinely believe Kidd will fight Luffy at Elbaf. I will take any bets on this
Regarding these comments, see a lot of zoro fans mentioning Hakai...forgetting kidd took a full ikoku (which is atleast 50% of hakai) point blank without blocking at all.. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kidd-vs-zoro-durability-endurance.52216/
And as I've said countless, the number one haters of Eustass Kidd are zoro fans and always will be lol. We'll starting see a lot more threads like during wano when he comes back and starts fighting another stronger character than Zoro.
I'm also seeing comments from people that think Shanks broke his will? Not even Kaido could break his will, hes a conqueror for a reason. If anything this will make his will even stronger.
And regarding the rest of these comments, Law fans/Sanji fans etc, have started to accept what Zoro fans push lol, which is funny honestly.
If people want to deny the obvious, thats fine. The story will speak for itself. Elbaf will end all agendas against Captain Kidd. Zoro fans better pray Luffy/Kidd never interact at Elbaf. Imagine what this forum would be like if Luffy Kidd actually fight?
Kidd never gonna fight Luffy, if you mean a minor clash why not ? But iliterally Luffy can neg diff Kidd today and i'm not even joking.
And yeah i agree Zoro fans hate Kidd and his fans because you guys talked too much during 13 years with "kidd never gonna be weaker than an uNdErLiNg, the WB/Shiki of this era, COC elite users" blablabla, so yeah face the consequences now. Kidd is shit and gonna stay useless. Wano/Post-Wano proved it. It's just facts. Imagine being one shotted material after an arc like Wano
What bullshit, we know more about what Ryo believes in 3 panels than what Kaido believes in 12 years of screentime.
"His justice feels generic", here's a nice long list of what motivates Shanks, Goofy, Mihawk and pretty much every other character in the Top 30 Most Popular.
-Food
-Friendship
-Prize/Title
"His justice feels generic", here's a nice long list of what motivates Shanks, Goofy, Mihawk and pretty much every other character in the Top 30 Most Popular.
-Food
-Friendship
-Prize/Title
What bullshit, we know more about what Ryo believes in 3 panels than what Kaido believes in 12 years of screentime.
"His justice feels generic", here's a nice long list of what motivates Shanks, Goofy, Mihawk and pretty much every other character in the Top 30 Most Popular.
-Food
-Friendship
-Prize/Title
"His justice feels generic", here's a nice long list of what motivates Shanks, Goofy, Mihawk and pretty much every other character in the Top 30 Most Popular.
-Food
-Friendship
-Prize/Title
It's not just Crydo and Meme, every major character's motivations are the same. Food, Friends, Title/Prize. Luffy himself is driven by little more than base impulses towards food and family 
You want to level things out with the Yonko by subtracting an Admiral, "4/5", but it's just a fact that Oda doesn't explain any of the underlying principals for why characters like Shanks or Mihawk do what they do.
We know Zoro wants to be WSS, or fufill his promise to Kuina, but we'll never know fundamentally why. Shanks will probably die protecting his Nakama feeling obligated towards the innocent but the grounds for this obligation won't ever be explained.
But because "Justice" is a virtue, it is an end to be sought in of itself, not a means Thus even if all 5 of the Admirals were Absolute Justice followers, they would have more principalled, grounded framework for their convictions than Yonko living merely for treasure & friends
You want to level things out with the Yonko by subtracting an Admiral, "4/5", but it's just a fact that Oda doesn't explain any of the underlying principals for why characters like Shanks or Mihawk do what they do.
We know Zoro wants to be WSS, or fufill his promise to Kuina, but we'll never know fundamentally why. Shanks will probably die protecting his Nakama feeling obligated towards the innocent but the grounds for this obligation won't ever be explained.
But because "Justice" is a virtue, it is an end to be sought in of itself, not a means Thus even if all 5 of the Admirals were Absolute Justice followers, they would have more principalled, grounded framework for their convictions than Yonko living merely for treasure & friends
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What bullshit, we know more about what Ryo believes in 3 panels than what Kaido believes in 12 years of screentime.
"His justice feels generic", here's a nice long list of what motivates Shanks, Goofy, Mihawk and pretty much every other character in the Top 30 Most Popular.
-Food
-Friendship
-Prize/Title
"His justice feels generic", here's a nice long list of what motivates Shanks, Goofy, Mihawk and pretty much every other character in the Top 30 Most Popular.
-Food
-Friendship
-Prize/Title
We know what Kaido and bm believe in
