General & Others Kid will obviously lose now. But he might win later.

[Monkey D Theories]

In regards to Kid vs Shanks, it’s obvious he’s not ready yet to face Shanks. That being said, it’s not impossible for him to defeat Shanks at some point.

In fact between him and Teach, it would actually make far more sense for Kid to be the downfall of Shanks.

Kid is a conqueror and with enough mastery, his magnetism might counter Shanks’s swordsmanship. Teach isn’t a conqueror and has no way of dealing with Shanks’s abilities.

What’s more, Kid simply has much more build up against Shanks than Teach:

• Lost his arm to Beckman over the timeskip
• Built alliance with Hawkins and Apoo to fight Shanks
• Is fighting Shanks rn

Whereas Teach scarred Shanks some years ago and has ran from him ever since.

Ultimately, I think Teach beating Shanks would be meaningless. It would turn a once great character into Teach’s hypetool, when other characters would be far better options(ex. Law, Aokiji, Luffy, Garp).

Kid beating Shanks would show the triumph of the new generation over the old. While Teach is technically worst gen, the man is basically as old as Shanks and has been a yonko for two years. Kid is Luffy’s peer and ally. Him beating Shanks while Luffy beats Teach would not only reinforce this fact, it would show Luffy surpassing Shanks. As Luffy>>Kid.

Overall, Kid lost to the RHP in the past. He will likely lose now. But we know Kid never gives up, so he will probably try again for the third time. And part of me thinks that that time, he might actually stand a chance at winning.

 

[sanjikun]

Mate, he beat someone with a higher bounty than Shanks. How is he "not ready to face" Shanks?

All Kid needs to do is get ACoC + master awakening, and he's Yonko level. Both him and Law were Low Top Tiers in Wano. He just needs 1-2 powerups.

 

[Kiiro]

Mate, he beat someone with a higher bounty than Shanks. How is he "not ready to face" Shanks?

All Kid needs to do is get ACoC + master awakening, and he's Yonko level. Both him and Law were Low Top Tiers in Wano. He just needs 1-2 powerups.

Because he isnt as you said, still needs at least 2 PU's. Kidd can give a High Diff battle.

 

[Reborn]

Mate, he beat someone with a higher bounty than Shanks. How is he "not ready to face" Shanks?

All Kid needs to do is get ACoC + master awakening, and he's Yonko level. Both him and Law were Low Top Tiers in Wano. He just needs 1-2 powerups.

He defeated BM with massive help from Law.

OT - you are just having blind fanboyism if you think Kidd has more buildup to beat shanks than Teach

Shanks don't give a fuck about Kidd until now whereas he got scar from BB, went to WB to stop Ace, challenged BB in MF.

And, no Kidd isn't beating shanks. No matter how much you people want it - shanks is more important than Kidd - always has been

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Mate, he beat someone with a higher bounty than Shanks. How is he "not ready to face" Shanks?

All Kid needs to do is get ACoC + master awakening, and he's Yonko level. Both him and Law were Low Top Tiers in Wano. He just needs 1-2 powerups.

Look how much plot armor it took for Luffy to beat kaido and realize Kid has none of that.

Say Kid developed ACoC since wano. He’s still probably not a sky splitter. He won’t be until he loses this time.
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He defeated BM with massive help from Law.

OT - you are just having blind fanboyism if you think Kidd has more buildup to beat shanks than Teach

Shanks don't give a fuck about Kidd until now whereas he got scar from BB, went to WB to stop Ace, challenged BB in MF.

And, no Kidd isn't beating shanks. No matter how much you people want it - shanks is more important than Kidd - always has been

What is the point of Teach beating Shanks? It’s just the cliche mentor death trope and it’s not even needed since Luffy already hates Teach because of Ace.

Kid beating Shanks advances his character and basically fulfills his character arc.

 

[Sugoi]

He defeated BM with massive help from Law.

OT - you are just having blind fanboyism if you think Kidd has more buildup to beat shanks than Teach

Shanks don't give a fuck about Kidd until now whereas he got scar from BB, went to WB to stop Ace, challenged BB in MF.

And, no Kidd isn't beating shanks. No matter how much you people want it - shanks is more important than Kidd - always has been

nope, shanks isn't part of new era, which automatically irrelevant in the race for pk, just like the other og yonkos whitebeard, kaido and big mom, odas going to get rid of the last one so that the endgame story can finally be fully focused on the next generation

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Also, the idea that Shanks can’t lose to Kid because he’s more important doesn’t make sense.

We don’t know what his role is.

Yeah Shanks losing now makes no sense because he hasn’t done anything yet. But why can’t shanks lose to kid after 100 chapters? After he fulfills his role?

 

[sanjikun]

Look how much plot armor it took for Luffy to beat kaido and realize Kid has none of that.

Say Kid developed ACoC since wano. He’s still probably not a sky splitter. He won’t be until he loses this time.
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What is the point of Teach beating Shanks? It’s just the cliche mentor death trope and it’s not even needed since Luffy already hates Teach because of Ace.

Kid beating Shanks advances his character and basically fulfills his character arc.

You don't think current Kid is as strong as ACoA Luffy? I think he's that post-Wano.

Post-Udon Luffy just needed ACoC to become Yonko level.

 

[Reborn]

nope, shanks isn't part of new era, which automatically irrelevant in the race for pk, just like the other og yonkos whitebeard, kaido and big mom, odas going to get rid of the last one so that the endgame story can finally be fully focused on the next generation

Kaido and BM were part of old gen


Shanks - mid gen

bB - worst gen

So, you are wrong on oda getting rid of shanks because he isn't part of old gen


Heck, oda didn't get rid of Rayleigh when he faced BB 🤷

 

[Sugoi]

Kaido and BM were part of old gen


Shanks - mid gen

bB - worst gen

So, you are wrong on oda getting rid of shanks because he isn't part of old gen


Heck, oda didn't get rid of Rayleigh when he faced BB 🤷

new era refers to the worst generation, not old gen or mid gen. Shanks is not part of the worst generation

 

[OnePiss]

Also, the idea that Shanks can’t lose to Kid because he’s more important doesn’t make sense.

We don’t know what his role is.

Yeah Shanks losing now makes no sense because he hasn’t done anything yet. But why can’t shanks lose to kid after 100 chapters? After he fulfills his role?

Cause Shanks main goal from what we can gather rn is to get the One Piece and use it for something. That can only happen after Luffy becomes the Pirate King

This a very very late game role in the story that’s why Kidd beating him doesn’t add anything
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new era refers to the worst generation, not old gen or mid gen. Shanks is not part of the worst generation

Shanks bet his arm on Luffy to do something. This isn’t his generation but he doesn’t want to become Pirate King so it’s a pointless parallel. He wants to use Luffy for something

Shanks and Blackbeard are not old timers like Kaido and Mom who lost their way and sat hidden away for 20 years

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

I think more than the opponent it is going to matter more how he's defeated. Knowing Oda i definitely know it's going to make big impact to the series. Eg WB death, Ace death.

Shanks's not just another pawn to go down in the race like Kaidou or BM..

 

[Garp the Fist]

Van Auger kills Yasopp setting up the final sniper fight with Usopp?

Nah, we want Yasopp defeated by (checks wiki) uh, Bubblegum, he can do it, I suppose he could be a sniper.

It’s not just about setting up Luffy vs Blackbeard- which is still far more important than doing anything with Kid- it’s about making the Blackbeards as a whole the best pirate crew to face, and the biggest challenge to the Strawhats.

There’s a reason the Red Hairs were said to be the best balanced crew of the Yonko and had their top three specifically name-dropped in the big Yonko bounty reveal chapter.

 

[JoNdule]

Shanks isn't beating Kid
Especially if he shows CoC Coating in this fight, then It will end in stalemate

Punk Kid was put above or around Pre Ryuo G4 slightly as he could overpower BM & hurt kaido with brute strength. PUNK Kidd ~ FS Luffy
Awakening boosted Kid/Law more than or as much as adcoa+ fs did for Luffy
Awakened Kidd > Benn
AdCoC Kidd ~ or >= Fuji/ GB
EoS Kidd >= Linlin > Shanks

 

[Borasey79]

Awakened Kidd > Benn
AdCoC Kidd ~ or >= Fuji/ GB
EoS Kidd >= Linlin > Shanks

You're drunk, mate

 

[Peroroncino]

Mate, he beat someone with a higher bounty than Shanks. How is he "not ready to face" Shanks?

All Kid needs to do is get ACoC + master awakening, and he's Yonko level. Both him and Law were Low Top Tiers in Wano. He just needs 1-2 powerups.

''he defeated someone with numerical advantage and the help of conveniently placed bombs he's obviously ready to fight someone of that level without bombs and help''

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

he is ready to fight shanks
no one else but top tiers are beating him.

 

[MarineHQ]

Getting Adv CoC but losing is enough for Kid tbh

 

[Buusatan94]

''he defeated someone with numerical advantage and the help of conveniently placed bombs he's obviously ready to fight someone of that level without bombs and help''

And plot armor above all. I am not sure that Kidd will have it without Luffy near him.

 

[NAMELESS]

In regards to Kid vs Shanks, it’s obvious he’s not ready yet to face Shanks. That being said, it’s not impossible for him to defeat Shanks at some point.

In fact between him and Teach, it would actually make far more sense for Kid to be the downfall of Shanks.

Kid is a conqueror and with enough mastery, his magnetism might counter Shanks’s swordsmanship. Teach isn’t a conqueror and has no way of dealing with Shanks’s abilities.

What’s more, Kid simply has much more build up against Shanks than Teach:

• Lost his arm to Beckman over the timeskip
• Built alliance with Hawkins and Apoo to fight Shanks
• Is fighting Shanks rn

Whereas Teach scarred Shanks some years ago and has ran from him ever since.

Ultimately, I think Teach beating Shanks would be meaningless. It would turn a once great character into Teach’s hypetool, when other characters would be far better options(ex. Law, Aokiji, Luffy, Garp).

Kid beating Shanks would show the triumph of the new generation over the old. While Teach is technically worst gen, the man is basically as old as Shanks and has been a yonko for two years. Kid is Luffy’s peer and ally. Him beating Shanks while Luffy beats Teach would not only reinforce this fact, it would show Luffy surpassing Shanks. As Luffy>>Kid.

Overall, Kid lost to the RHP in the past. He will likely lose now. But we know Kid never gives up, so he will probably try again for the third time. And part of me thinks that that time, he might actually stand a chance at winning.

not a bad post,i want Kidd vs Luffy at some point too.