Character Discussion Killer's Payback Night

Do you put respect on Killer's name?

  • Yes, of course

    Votes: 38 77.6%
  • No, I'm a snitch/bitch

    Votes: 11 22.4%

  • Total voters
    49

Finalbeta

Law Nerd
#28
Do you really think Hawkins vs Killer will have a winner instead of just having Hawkins switch sides eventually?
That can eventually prove the case. I would love if for once a Supernova fight kept on for a long time. I don't necessarily see a winner emerging but at least hope the fight won't interrupt for any reason for a long time.
 
#31
Killer eating smile fruit and working for orochi as hitokiri kamazo is like oden dancing naked for 5 years.
I have no respect for that stuff.

The bandages he was wearing were from kaido's beat down and mainly to cover his true identity, kidd was also heavily injured when luffy came to udon.

Kidd is even worse he just sat on his ass in udon injured and imprisoned, didn't try to train nor heal himself, until luffy came in and give him motivation to carry on his revenge on kaido, and he failed at that too, as he's currently fighting big mom instead, even though he has the best claim to take kaido's head, lmao kid doesn't even know what the fuck he wanna do, a moment he says he'll take kaido's head for revenge, the next he says he'll do it to gain more notoriety.

Kidd pirates have been painted throughout wano as pathetic scrubs, even in onigashima all of his crew asside from kidd and killer are just fighting fodder waiters smh.
 
#33
They held his captain hostage, Killer cares more about his captain than his own dignity
If straw hats didn't show up, he'll remain in eternal servitude under orochi.
He was allowed to roam wano freely and he didn't take advantage of that, not even once did he try to reach out to his captain in udon, didn't try to fight, didn't devise a secret plan to save his captain, he just gave up, completely accepting orochi's authority, and when he met kid in udon he was literaly crying.

Killer is not a badass, he's a tragedy.
 
#35
He was allowed to roam wano freely and he didn't take advantage of that, not even once did he try to reach out to his captain in udon
He didn't know Kidd was in Udon wtf you talking about
The only advantage he could take was running away but:
- First, Killer doesn't drop his crew and especially his Captain
- Second, no man has the navigational skills ti navigate out of Sano safely by himself (excluding characters like Jimbe, Aokiji or Doflamingo)
 
#37
Killer is Zoro‘s only rival and one of the leaders of the next Gen.
Luffy and Kid are the ones with the biggest potential to become PK (Teach also) and they have both excellent Vice Captains.
Some people or fandoms try to downplay Killer because they can’t accept that he’s the only worthy rival of Zoro, not a gag like Sanji.
Zoro is still stronger, which is obvious but Killer can also beat King.
 
#38
He didn't know Kidd was in Udon wtf you talking about
The only advantage he could take was running away but:
- First, Killer doesn't drop his crew and especially his Captain
- Second, no man has the navigational skills ti navigate out of Sano safely by himself (excluding characters like Jimbe, Aokiji or Doflamingo)
Killer was acting as kamazo even before straw hats arived to wano, if robin could aquire a massive amount of data about kiado and orochi's forces, why a supposedly "smart and well informed" man like killer couldn't at least find out where his captain is imprisoned?
Also he could've just round up the rest of the crew and invade udon himself, if he's as capable as people think he is that shouldn't be difficult, why wait until kid got freed by the storm that luffy brought.
The kid pirates as a whole were poorly handled throughout wano, even now most of them are fighting fodder while the straw hats got to defeat the F6 and Calamities.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#39
Killer is a victim of losing to Zoro and as such he gets called trash just because he lost to someone like Zoro...
People dont realize that the best combatants always face Zoro and losing to the strongest is simply normal.
Among the 5 rooftop leaders of the new generation of pirates, Killer might as well be the 2nd best combatant, 2nd only to Zoro.

He might not have fancy hakis like Luffy, hax skills like Law or metal toys like Kidd but he has proper combat skills and two sharp blades.
He might not have been able to do much against Kaido but nobody else has a body like Kaido to keep Killer ineffective.
If he lands a clean hit on Luffy, Law or Kidd, it is lights out. Only Law can probably give him trouble with his hax.
 
#40
Killer was acting as kamazo even before straw hats arived to wano, if robin could aquire a massive amount of data about kiado and orochi's forces, why a supposedly "smart and well informed" man like killer couldn't at least find out where his captain is imprisoned?
Also he could've just round up the rest of the crew and invade udon himself, if he's as capable as people think he is that shouldn't be difficult, why wait until kid got freed by the storm that luffy brought.
The kid pirates as a whole were poorly handled throughout wano, even now most of them are fighting fodder while the straw hats got to defeat the F6 and Calamities.
Robin became an oiran, she had access to the Shougun Palace which is basically the QG. She was surrounded from Orochi, the Oniwabanshu and even Denjiro/Kyoshiro. A damn lot of info and even then the real info came from Wano citizens and the investigation of all the SHs combined (Franky as a carpenter, Nami acting as a ninja with Shinobu and so on). That manpower disposal and inner knowledge is completely different.
Killer worked as a hitman, he was basically given an order: "Kill X, Kill Y, Kill Z" he didn't know else and had no way to know more. Stop acting like, in the middle of a mission, he could go around and ask citizens for info (especially Infos in regards of a dangerous pirate who was recently imprisoned) and stop acting like they would give them to him of asked to. You're also forgetting that Kamazo was supposed to be a ghost, newspapers said that he used to act during the night for fast and clean jobs and his face was barely seen (the wanted poster was Just a silhouette).
Killer didn't have the means and the people to organize anything. You're climbing glass walls.
 
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