Kingdom General Tier list
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Perhaps now is a good time to discuss how you’ve all been disrespecting Ranbihaku lol.
Ranbihaku is so strong that he was said to have given both Ouki and Kyou trouble. Which is very similar to the hype Kyou En got as having “burned Renpa’s hands” several times, except unlike Kyou En Ranbihaku is almost purely a warrior general with very minimal tactical ability.
Ranbihaku also clashed equally with Tou. Completely equally. Yes it was just one clash but we also have nothing else to go on. Literally 100% of Ranbihaku’s interactions with Tou were equal clashes. He also fought equally with Juuko Yoku who clashed equally with Tou.
Where do you all get this idea that Ranbihaku is not a Heavenly King level general? Rei Ou stated that Ranbihaku would fold Tou’s army after he (Rei Ou) consolidated their forces. Ranbihaku is very much portrayed as a Heavenly King level general based 99.9% on his martial prowess lol.
I think Oukotsu just goofed. One shots are possible in Kingdom when there aren’t necessarily huge power gaps. I think if you ran Ouki and Shoumou back with Shoumou knowing how great Ouki was, he might push Ouki to a solid mid diff or at least not get one shot lmfao.
But I think Ouki losing to young Kanmei is completely possible lol.
Maybe this was just me miscommunicating, but I meant to say Sento’Un >= Ranbihaku in a high or extreme diff fight. Which is also how hard Duke Hyou would probably push Bananji imo.
Ranbihaku is so strong that he was said to have given both Ouki and Kyou trouble. Which is very similar to the hype Kyou En got as having “burned Renpa’s hands” several times, except unlike Kyou En Ranbihaku is almost purely a warrior general with very minimal tactical ability.
Ranbihaku also clashed equally with Tou. Completely equally. Yes it was just one clash but we also have nothing else to go on. Literally 100% of Ranbihaku’s interactions with Tou were equal clashes. He also fought equally with Juuko Yoku who clashed equally with Tou.
Where do you all get this idea that Ranbihaku is not a Heavenly King level general? Rei Ou stated that Ranbihaku would fold Tou’s army after he (Rei Ou) consolidated their forces. Ranbihaku is very much portrayed as a Heavenly King level general based 99.9% on his martial prowess lol.
I think Oukotsu just goofed. One shots are possible in Kingdom when there aren’t necessarily huge power gaps. I think if you ran Ouki and Shoumou back with Shoumou knowing how great Ouki was, he might push Ouki to a solid mid diff or at least not get one shot lmfao.
But I think Ouki losing to young Kanmei is completely possible lol.
Wait you think Ranbihaku > Sento'Un? Bro, that's a wiiiild take but alright 
it's the Renpa statement plus all of Banana's other hype that puts him above Ranbihaku
My scaling is:
Renpa>Sentou'un~Duke Hyou>Banana>Ranbihaku>>Rokoumi
I exaggerated, he's definitely Heavenly King level but below Banana/Kaishibou/Gyou'un imo
I doubt he has any weight, and there are many Heavenly King combatants with ample weight.
Maybe i'm misrembering but I don't remember his clash with Tou being that long.
I suppose it's always possible that Oukotsu vs Kanmei was kinda like the start of Man'U and Moubu where Oukotsu just fumbled. Probably out of arrogance and not expecting Kanmei to be that formidable.
Do you agree that Moubu calling all of Kanmei's past opponents weak hurts Oukotsu's portrayal a lot though? Or was it just Moubu talking shit?
My scaling is:
Renpa>Sentou'un~Duke Hyou>Banana>Ranbihaku>>Rokoumi
I exaggerated, he's definitely Heavenly King level but below Banana/Kaishibou/Gyou'un imo
I doubt he has any weight, and there are many Heavenly King combatants with ample weight.
Maybe i'm misrembering but I don't remember his clash with Tou being that long.
I suppose it's always possible that Oukotsu vs Kanmei was kinda like the start of Man'U and Moubu where Oukotsu just fumbled. Probably out of arrogance and not expecting Kanmei to be that formidable.
Do you agree that Moubu calling all of Kanmei's past opponents weak hurts Oukotsu's portrayal a lot though? Or was it just Moubu talking shit?
How though? Those three all have more tactical ability than Ranbihaku. They are all HK level due to a mix of their tactical knowledge and martial ability to one extent or another. Ranbihaku is purely a martial nut with no tactical knowledge to speak of. You would think that would make him stronger than them.
On what basis is he really weaker than them? Where has Ranbihaku shown himself lacking martially?
It was one blow but like I said it was completely equal.
Tou retreated after this. And Tou didn’t think Ranbihaku would reach him to begin with.
He also did fight Sento’Un by himself equally while Rokuomi was held up by fodder:
Nah. It was just Moubu hyping himself up. Ofc Moubu and Kanmei > Oukotsu but I think Oukotsu would be above every warrior we’ve seen in Zhao since Shukai Plains minus maybe Houken and Shibashou.
On what basis is he really weaker than them? Where has Ranbihaku shown himself lacking martially?
It was one blow but like I said it was completely equal.
Tou retreated after this. And Tou didn’t think Ranbihaku would reach him to begin with.
He also did fight Sento’Un by himself equally while Rokuomi was held up by fodder:
Nah. It was just Moubu hyping himself up. Ofc Moubu and Kanmei > Oukotsu but I think Oukotsu would be above every warrior we’ve seen in Zhao since Shukai Plains minus maybe Houken and Shibashou.
Tbh I wonder why Gaimou left majority of the Kingdom community so impressed by his performance whereas Ranbihaku is kinda downplayed a lot.
I don't think that Gaimou was hyped that much more in the first place.
- Gaimou's men spread a rumour that Ouki and Renpa avoided duelling him but we know they looked down on him.
- Kyou actually thought of RBH as trouble and he clashed with Tou equally.
I don't think that Gaimou was hyped that much more in the first place.
- Gaimou's men spread a rumour that Ouki and Renpa avoided duelling him but we know they looked down on him.
- Kyou actually thought of RBH as trouble and he clashed with Tou equally.
I agree that there is a difference in portrayal but is it really that big ?
I mean let's look at the facts. Ranbihaku was recognised by Kyou as a threat and she was almost purely a warrior. He clashed with Tou equally. In the Juuko arc RBH clashed with Sento'Un and then later stalled Kouyoku 1v1 who also clashed equally with Tou.
Gaimou so far had a prolonged battle with a Shin that recently picked up the glaive and had poor technique.
I mean let's look at the facts. Ranbihaku was recognised by Kyou as a threat and she was almost purely a warrior. He clashed with Tou equally. In the Juuko arc RBH clashed with Sento'Un and then later stalled Kouyoku 1v1 who also clashed equally with Tou.
Gaimou so far had a prolonged battle with a Shin that recently picked up the glaive and had poor technique.
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not that happy with how this turned out
I tried to order it, but it became really hard in the lower tiers lol and I got a bit lazy
overall it was actually extremely hard to make, maybe I should have had more tiers
in case anyone is wondering why i have Gokei above Duke, is because Gokei didn't have to engage in that duel.
Hakuki would have been inbetween Ousen and Gakuki
not that happy with how this turned out
I tried to order it, but it became really hard in the lower tiers lol and I got a bit lazy
overall it was actually extremely hard to make, maybe I should have had more tiers
in case anyone is wondering why i have Gokei above Duke, is because Gokei didn't have to engage in that duel.
Hakuki would have been inbetween Ousen and Gakuki
The barbarian looking dude in Zhao Heaven Tier is Kouen lol
Alright. Read some parts of Gyou’Un focused battles and I think we need to talk about Prime Gyou’Un being equal to or even slightly above Gaimou, Bumkotsu and Kyou.
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Alright. Read some parts of Gyou’Un focused battles and I think we need to talk about Prime Gyou’Un being equal to or even slightly above Gaimou, Bumkotsu and Kyou.
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As Gyou’Un Sama’s original high priest, I’m about to shut this shit down lol. The best Gyou’Un can hope for is Man’U level as a commander.
Alright. Read some parts of Gyou’Un focused battles and I think we need to talk about Prime Gyou’Un being equal to or even slightly above Gaimou, Bumkotsu and Kyou.
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Purely martial GG > underling who's also an instinctual
I believe Gaimou will get stronger because he'll have a philosophy change so even if you're putting Bum'un equal to or above Gaimou, it doesn't matter to me because he'll surpass him regardless.
Alright. Read some parts of Gyou’Un focused battles and I think we need to talk about Prime Gyou’Un being equal to or even slightly above Gaimou, Bumkotsu and Kyou.
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he lacks the weight 😈
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Alright. Read some parts of Gyou’Un focused battles and I think we need to talk about Prime Gyou’Un being equal to or even slightly above Gaimou, Bumkotsu and Kyou.
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- Oukotsu still was a Great General who was part of the Qin Six, I don't see him losing. It would be interesting to see what kind of general Oukotsu was as a whole, since according to Kyouen it was Kyou who was the most offensive minded one (the one who "made his blood boil the most").
- Kyou erases Gyou’Un.