Break Week Kuzan’s Bounty FINAL Prediction Thread (UPDATE 11/01/2024 - I Guess I Lied)

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Sir Yasheen @EmperorKinyagi

I don't think you guys realize insane implications of that.

He would be above WSS and on par with established Yonko with that bounty, despite not commanding any significant officers.

This would make him without a doubt on par with any pirate in government's eyes

Before I used to believe Kuzan had more chances of being between 3B-3.5B but Oda not not revealing it during Hachinosu (when he revealed Garp and admirals CG bounty) or even in the last VC pack makes me believe he plans for it to be significantly above 3B.
If you want a in-universe justification for Kuzan getting something close to/around 4B on top of his strenght, I believe that Garp's (who is a symbol in the verse, more so than Kaido or BM I'd argue) capture is a good one as while it was a team work, Kuzan got the main credit.

 

[Daves John]

He literally is? He’s the nigh equal of the Fleet Admiral in strength why do you act like commanding fodder matters when their power is already at that level.

Because it increases one's influence and power.

One of the reasons given for Crocodile's bounty is his leadership.

Before I used to believe Kuzan had more chances of being between 3B-3.5B but Oda not not revealing it during Hachinosu (when he revealed Garp and admirals CG bounty) or even in the last VC pack makes me believe he plans for it to be significantly above 3B.
If you want a in-universe justification for Kuzan getting something close to/around 4B on top of his screen, I believe that Garp's (who is a symbol in the verse, more so than Kaido or BM I'd argue) capture is a good one as while it was a team work, Kuzan got the main credit.

I can see that being the case, but 4 billion is simply incredibly high.
We'll see

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

1.9-2.5B
Knowing Oda it will be half of Akainu's CG bounty. Going by the new cards he never had a bounty to begin with.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Because it increases one's influence and power.

One of the reasons given for Crocodile's bounty is his leadership.


I can see that being the case, but 4 billion is simply incredibly high.
We'll see

Yet crocodile has no subordinates. Bounties predominantly are based on one’s personal strength and abilities.

Kuzan being a pirate who’s nigh equal to the fleet admiral of the navy will warrant a bounty close to Sakazuki because it shows that he’s so dangerous the only navy member strong enough to fight him is Sakazuki

 

[Dragon777]

When you think about it there’s no way capturing Garp shouldn’t result in a crazy bounty, I could see it going up to 4+

Precisely.

Kuzan being ~ 4B is very likely.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Many said it wasn't impossible for Akainu to have a 5b CG bounty because it'd put him on Whitebeard level and above any OG Yonko outside the PK's rival.
Now it gets rationalized with the FA leading the strongest military organization
Well, I'm sure Kuzan having around 4B can get rationalized all the same. No yonko performed a feat similar to capturing a legend like Garp I believe. (not saying they couldn't in the same situation, just that they factually didn't), and Kuzan being a former marine makes the act even more vile.

 

[Reborn]

Other admirals have bounty of 3Billion

So, kuzan has to be around this.

But, now kuzan is a pirate under a yonkou crew and played role in capturing Garp.

And, he was once a FA candidate.


I think he's bounty could be around 3.5B

Or if BB gets an increase then it's likely that his bounty could end up around 3.9 B mark​

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Other admirals have bounty of 3Billion

So, kuzan has to be around this.

But, now kuzan is a pirate under a yonkou crew and played role in capturing Garp.

And, he was once a FA candidate.


I think he's bounty could be around 3.5B

Or if BB gets an increase then it's likely that his bounty could end up around 3.9 B mark​

Why should Kuzans bounty be closer to the admirals than to Sakazuki when Kuzan is portrayed closer to Sakazuki?

 

[Reborn]

Why should Kuzans bounty be closer to the admirals than to Sakazuki when Kuzan is portrayed closer to Sakazuki?

Kuzan left during TS when he was still an admiral and Akainu just became FA.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kuzan left during TS when he was still an admiral and Akainu just became FA.

But Kuzan was shown that when he left he and Sakazuki were comparable in strength. So why should he not get a bounty closer to Sakazuki than to the other admirals?

 

[Reborn]

But Kuzan was shown that when he left he and Sakazuki were comparable in strength. So why should he not get a bounty closer to Sakazuki than to the other admirals?

Because before TS, Akainu, kuzan and kiz - all got similar portayal and were put in same ball park


It was during TS we saw kuzan and Akainu part ways.

One became FA and other went rouge.


I am assuming that during TS, Akainu grew further in strength and thus setting him apart

Kuzan - he is still serving under a yonkou captain who doesn't have bounty more than 4B.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Because before TS, Akainu, kuzan and kiz - all got similar portayal and were put in same ball park


It was during TS we saw kuzan and Akainu part ways.

One became FA and other went rouge.


I am assuming that during TS, Akainu grew further in strength and thus setting him apart

Kuzan - he is still serving under a yonkou captain who doesn't have bounty more than 4B.

That was before their fight. If any growth occurred it was Kuzan and Sakazuki growing during their fight and likely awakening their fruit. They’ve had showings and portrayal that Kizaru hasn’t even approached and there’s no statement that Sakazuki grew stronger after that fight.

Kuzan “serving” under a yonko isn’t accurate, Oda himself says so. Instead Kuzan just is using the freedom to do his own thing. His bounties going to be higher than current BBs guaranteed.

 

[Reborn]

That was before their fight. If any growth occurred it was Kuzan and Sakazuki growing during their fight and likely awakening their fruit. They’ve had showings and portrayal that Kizaru hasn’t even approached and there’s no statement that Sakazuki grew stronger after that fight.

Kuzan “serving” under a yonko isn’t accurate, Oda himself says so. Instead Kuzan just is using the freedom to do his own thing. His bounties going to be higher than current BBs guaranteed.

His Bounty could only match current BB's bounty if BB himself gets an upgrade.

But as of now, his bounty could me more between 3.3-3.5B

 

[Daves John]

Yet crocodile has no subordinates. Bounties predominantly are based on one’s personal strength and abilities.

Kuzan being a pirate who’s nigh equal to the fleet admiral of the navy will warrant a bounty close to Sakazuki because it shows that he’s so dangerous the only navy member strong enough to fight him is Sakazuki

He literally has entire organization behind him, more so now.

Yes, strength is THE most important factor, but there are many other aspects to consider.

And how much of "danger" someone is definitely depends on the amount of people under the captain and their strength.

Many said it wasn't impossible for Akainu to have a 5b CG bounty because it'd put him on Whitebeard level and above any OG Yonko outside the PK's rival.
Now it gets rationalized with the FA leading the strongest military organization
Well, I'm sure Kuzan having around 4B can get rationalized all the same. No yonko performed a feat similar to capturing a legend like Garp I believe. (not saying they couldn't in the same situation, just that they factually didn't), and Kuzan being a former marine makes the act even more vile.

I was always on Akainu=5 billion train and Kuzan 3.3-3.5 billion.

If Kuzan is higher, I'll gladly be wrong but I wouldn't bet on it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

His Bounty could only match current BB's bounty if BB himself gets an upgrade.

But as of now, his bounty could me more between 3.3-3.5B

Why can it only match BBs? And okay, so why did Oda push the last comparison between Sakazuki and Kuzan for them being comparable if their bounties aren’t going to reflect that?

Doesn’t make much sense at all.

 

[Reborn]

Why can it only match BBs? And okay, so why did Oda push the last comparison between Sakazuki and Kuzan for them being comparable if their bounties aren’t going to reflect that?

Doesn’t make much sense at all.

What are you trying to argue?

Kuzan having bounty around 4B is only possible when BB himself goes above this mark.

It doesn't matter what kuzan is, what his purpose is - he is still under BB and is not a threat bigger than BB himself

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I was always on Akainu=5 billion train and Kuzan 3.3-3.5 billion.

If Kuzan is higher, I'll gladly be wrong but I wouldn't bet on it

We'll see, for me 3.5B is the minimum and if his bounty gets revealed after Elbaf then I fully expect to be around 4B as I see Teach shooting past Kaido

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

4.93 billion

 

[Sir Yasheen]

What are you trying to argue?

Kuzan having bounty around 4B is only possible when BB himself goes above this mark.

It doesn't matter what kuzan is, what his purpose is - he is still under BB and is not a threat bigger than BB himself

That’s what I’m saying, Odas not going to give Kuzan a bounty until BB gets his 5 Billion bounty and then Kuzan will get a bounty above 4 Billion.

You said his bounty can only match current BBs if BB gets a boost but thats not the case.

 

[Reborn]

That’s what I’m saying, Odas not going to give Kuzan a bounty until BB gets his 5 Billion bounty and then Kuzan will get a bounty above 4 Billion.

You said his bounty can only match current BBs if BB gets a boost but thats not the case.

That's because BB current bounty is 3.9 something


As we don't know how much of an increase BB will get, I am inclining towards Kuzam having similar bounty as BB has right now.