Character Discussion Law and Kid are special in their tier list!
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Obviously, there are only a selected few who'd require Kid to need distractions to land hits. So anyone who says he always needs a distraction would be wrong. However, Kid did not land any attacks on Big Mom in 1039 when she's focused on him and is in a position to fight back. As far as I can recall, he managed to assign a poll to her but failed to land the follow-up attack as Big Mom countered him by turning around and blocking Kid with the wall she's attached to.
Hey Guys!
Thanks to Shishio, i could finaly see Odas long plan for Kid and Law and understand now their placing and their kind of fight against Big Mum.
First of all, back to the fight:
The fight around Big Mum was heavily build around awakanings and devil fruits. While Linlin is also known for her Adv. Haki, she wasnt able to put down Law and Kid, specially Kid, since he acted as the tank in that fight. This point alone speaks for their massive physically stats. No other character could take nearly the same damage and still be on their feats or counterattack. Again, we have to consider no adc haki in it here for both!
And then, Kid and Law overpowered Big Mum each on their own way against her Devil Fruit + Haki, they managed to take down an Yonko.
So, they were able to put down a Yonko, only with their physical stats and her devil fruit awakaning. Still, they got put at the same tier as Luffy by Oda and/or the world government.
This fact lead into much confusion, how can they be the same thread as Joyboy-Godlike-Mastermind-HyperMC-Nika-Luffy?
But, Shishio made it clear for me.
Conclusion:
They are feared, since they are already on a top tier league, able to take down Yonkos and still havent nearly maxed any kind of Haki. They play in the biggest league and still have alot to reach in the known scala. Everyone else in that League has already Adv. Haki of any form or several forms, everyone except them. If they now are able to master these Hakilevels, for example Law Adv. CoO, Kid AdvCOC and AdvCOA they would jump in a League of above the known Top Tiers right now. Thats why they are heavily feared too.
And they will reach that point, since they will lead, together with Luffy, the World Revolution against Imu and the world government!
Hands down, Luffy, Kid and Law are monsters and they will conquer the whole world.
Gz
Panth
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Thanks to Shishio, i could finaly see Odas long plan for Kid and Law and understand now their placing and their kind of fight against Big Mum.
First of all, back to the fight:
The fight around Big Mum was heavily build around awakanings and devil fruits. While Linlin is also known for her Adv. Haki, she wasnt able to put down Law and Kid, specially Kid, since he acted as the tank in that fight. This point alone speaks for their massive physically stats. No other character could take nearly the same damage and still be on their feats or counterattack. Again, we have to consider no adc haki in it here for both!
And then, Kid and Law overpowered Big Mum each on their own way against her Devil Fruit + Haki, they managed to take down an Yonko.
So, they were able to put down a Yonko, only with their physical stats and her devil fruit awakaning. Still, they got put at the same tier as Luffy by Oda and/or the world government.
This fact lead into much confusion, how can they be the same thread as Joyboy-Godlike-Mastermind-HyperMC-Nika-Luffy?
But, Shishio made it clear for me.
Conclusion:
They are feared, since they are already on a top tier league, able to take down Yonkos and still havent nearly maxed any kind of Haki. They play in the biggest league and still have alot to reach in the known scala. Everyone else in that League has already Adv. Haki of any form or several forms, everyone except them. If they now are able to master these Hakilevels, for example Law Adv. CoO, Kid AdvCOC and AdvCOA they would jump in a League of above the known Top Tiers right now. Thats why they are heavily feared too.
And they will reach that point, since they will lead, together with Luffy, the World Revolution against Imu and the world government!
Hands down, Luffy, Kid and Law are monsters and they will conquer the whole world.
Gz
Panth
@rerere @Lukegranders @Tyki_Mikk ...
it has... zoro allready has advanced version of haki while Kida and Law doesnt... we know Kid has CoC confirmed by Kaido he probably isnt aware of it just like zoro wasnt... Hes CoC clash with luffy will split heavens... I dont know how far will Law get in haki department but any advanced version of it will make him even more ahead of YC tiear fighters
It seems the only one with problems reading the manga is you.
She was still pretty much ok falling down, emphasized by her long-ass monologue and her even thinking" You better not think this is enough to kill me!" while falling into the hole/lava.
Kid and Law "won" the match, but they clearly didn't win bs they overpowered her or anything. They simply outsmarted her and used the battlefield/environment to their advantage.
She was still pretty much ok falling down, emphasized by her long-ass monologue and her even thinking" You better not think this is enough to kill me!" while falling into the hole/lava.
Kid and Law "won" the match, but they clearly didn't win bs they overpowered her or anything. They simply outsmarted her and used the battlefield/environment to their advantage.
well, Kid actually did overpower her with damned punk
yeah, there's no way they won't reach a 5 billion berry bounty and surpass the previous generation of yonko.
If they can do this much damage to big mom without having mastered their awakenings or attained any form of advanced haki, then I see no reason why they can't outright surpass Kaido by the final war when they would have surely mastered awakening and possibly gained advanced haki as well.
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yeah, there's no way they won't reach a 5 billion berry bounty and surpass the previous generation of yonko.
If they can do this much damage to big mom without having mastered their awakenings or attained any form of advanced haki, then I see no reason why they can't outright surpass Kaido by the final war when they would have surely mastered awakening and possibly gained advanced haki as well.
He didn't, re-read the chapter.
He managed to push her through the hole on Onigashima, that Law made, while she was trying to hold on to the edges of that hole.
In terms of damage it didn't do much at all. She even told him as much before she finally got pushed out.
That's not a knock on Kid, it's just how Oda decided to write fight.
He managed to push her through the hole on Onigashima, that Law made, while she was trying to hold on to the edges of that hole.
In terms of damage it didn't do much at all. She even told him as much before she finally got pushed out.
That's not a knock on Kid, it's just how Oda decided to write fight.
it seems like she was overpowered.
Linlin tried to tank/counter damned punk, but was knocked down.
She then tried to deflect it but was still unsuccessful.
also, damned punk did do a lot of damage. You can see it in the final page of 1039, blood is streaming out of her nose and mouth.
Linlin was just lying so that soul pocus would work.
Linlin tried to tank/counter damned punk, but was knocked down.
She then tried to deflect it but was still unsuccessful.
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also, damned punk did do a lot of damage. You can see it in the final page of 1039, blood is streaming out of her nose and mouth.
Linlin was just lying so that soul pocus would work.
If Doffy shows up in the final war, will Law/Kidd be able to defeat an above-average commander like that in 1vs1? 
She stopped being pretty much ok in CH. 1030, and I'm the one with reading problems, huh?
The last clash was the definition of overpowering: Kidd was firing Damned Punk at Linlin, who before was on her feet but ends up on the ground, trying to resist at it.
Then she starts the trashtalk on how it tickles while shielding herself with Adv. CoC and Soul Pocusing the surroundings to get more power and resist the Damned Punk.
Acting tough while looking for help, the hipocrisy! lol.
Kidd & Law obviously saw through the weak words of a old hag who has outlived her welcome, quote, and definitely overpowered her: Kidd boosted Damned Punk even more, Law silenced her and sliced Misery.
"You better not think this is enough to kill me", again, the pathetic cries of an old hag. She was welcomed to stay in Onigashima, she wouldn't have handled another Punk Corna Dio/Puncture Wille anyway. Kidd & Law still had gas left in their tanks.
Using the battlefield/environment at vantage is proof of a good fighter, by the way.
And I have 2 threads about the battle in my sig, you're welcome to debate there if you have a problem
Why write a fight in which my boy Doffy gets destroyed
She stopped being pretty much ok in CH. 1030, and I'm the one with reading problems, huh?
The last clash was the definition of overpowering: Kidd was firing Damned Punk at Linlin, who before was on her feet but ends up on the ground, trying to resist at it.
Then she starts the trashtalk on how it tickles while shielding herself with Adv. CoC and Soul Pocusing the surroundings to get more power and resist the Damned Punk.
Acting tough while looking for help, the hipocrisy! lol.
Kidd & Law obviously saw through the weak words of a old hag who has outlived her welcome, quote, and definitely overpowered her: Kidd boosted Damned Punk even more, Law silenced her and sliced Misery.
"You better not think this is enough to kill me", again, the pathetic cries of an old hag. She was welcomed to stay in Onigashima, she wouldn't have handled another Punk Corna Dio/Puncture Wille anyway. Kidd & Law still had gas left in their tanks.
Using the battlefield/environment at vantage is proof of a good fighter, by the way.
And I have 2 threads about the battle in my sig, you're welcome to debate there if you have a problem
She stopped being pretty much ok in CH. 1030, and I'm the one with reading problems, huh?
The last clash was the definition of overpowering: Kidd was firing Damned Punk at Linlin, who before was on her feet but ends up on the ground, trying to resist at it.
Then she starts the trashtalk on how it tickles while shielding herself with Adv. CoC and Soul Pocusing the surroundings to get more power and resist the Damned Punk.
Acting tough while looking for help, the hipocrisy! lol.
Kidd & Law obviously saw through the weak words of a old hag who has outlived her welcome, quote, and definitely overpowered her: Kidd boosted Damned Punk even more, Law silenced her and sliced Misery.
"You better not think this is enough to kill me", again, the pathetic cries of an old hag. She was welcomed to stay in Onigashima, she wouldn't have handled another Punk Corna Dio/Puncture Wille anyway. Kidd & Law still had gas left in their tanks.
Using the battlefield/environment at vantage is proof of a good fighter, by the way.
And I have 2 threads about the battle in my sig, you're welcome to debate there if you have a problem
Kid and Law were still up after that fight. In comparison with others on the raid, they werent knocked out after their fight, they were up, ready for more. Even tho they had no pause and no healing in between.