Character Discussion Law and Kid are special in their tier list!

[Ballel]

Hey Guys!

Thanks to Shishio, i could finaly see Odas long plan for Kid and Law and understand now their placing and their kind of fight against Big Mum.

First of all, back to the fight:
The fight around Big Mum was heavily build around awakanings and devil fruits. While Linlin is also known for her Adv. Haki, she wasnt able to put down Law and Kid, specially Kid, since he acted as the tank in that fight. This point alone speaks for their massive physically stats. No other character could take nearly the same damage and still be on their feats or counterattack. Again, we have to consider no adc haki in it here for both!

And then, Kid and Law overpowered Big Mum each on their own way against her Devil Fruit + Haki, they managed to take down an Yonko.

So, they were able to put down a Yonko, only with their physical stats and her devil fruit awakaning. Still, they got put at the same tier as Luffy by Oda and/or the world government.

This fact lead into much confusion, how can they be the same thread as Joyboy-Godlike-Mastermind-HyperMC-Nika-Luffy?
But, Shishio made it clear for me.

Conclusion:
They are feared, since they are already on a top tier league, able to take down Yonkos and still havent nearly maxed any kind of Haki. They play in the biggest league and still have alot to reach in the known scala. Everyone else in that League has already Adv. Haki of any form or several forms, everyone except them. If they now are able to master these Hakilevels, for example Law Adv. CoO, Kid AdvCOC and AdvCOA they would jump in a League of above the known Top Tiers right now. Thats why they are heavily feared too.

And they will reach that point, since they will lead, together with Luffy, the World Revolution against Imu and the world government!

Hands down, Luffy, Kid and Law are monsters and they will conquer the whole world.

Gz
Panth


@rerere @Lukegranders @Tyki_Mikk ...

your first troll thread, congrats Pantyhose!

 

[rerere]

I just want to add to your superb explanation:

Kid and Law were still up after that fight. In comparison with others on the raid, they werent knocked out after their fight, they were up, ready for more. Even tho they had no pause and no healing in between.

That's why I specified that they had still gas left in their tanks. When Kaido killed Luffy, they were gearing up to go at it, and at that point the only real deals were those 2 and Marco.

 

[Sanji D Cook]

Kid and Law defeated Big Mom. That's a fact no one can deny. Some are saying that Big Mom still talking trash is the reason why she was not defeated is short sighted. Law and Kid's awaken DF prove to be to much for Big Mom to overcome, to the point she blames Roger for her defeat.

 

[Jiihad]

Damnsone people hea really think Law and Kidd didn’t beat Big Mom but say Luffy beat Kaidou after getting KILLED and revived by tha literally only known GOD fruit in tha series and having mad other people injure and fight Kaidou before hand…..wild

 

[Malio]

Their goal was to stop her from reaching the roof, which they succeeded by pushing off Onigashima (and the bombs also helped).

That in no way makes them special but new generation surpasses the old and that crap in Shonen...

 

[Roo]

imagine thinking kid and law won't be high top tiers by EOS after getting their own bounty chapters with the MC

couldn't be me thoooo

 

[ZenZu]

Kid and Law "won" the match, but they clearly didn't win bs they overpowered her or anything. They simply outsmarted her and used the battlefield/environment to their advantage.

They quite literally overpowered her lmao. Her best attacks didn't come close to their best and she got sent packing.

 

[Jiihad]

They quite literally overpowered her lmao. Her best attacks didn't come close to their best and she got sent packing.

***** watched Bug Mom get folded and with a straight face say it didn’t happen

 

[Ven437]

the annoying thing is that bigmom was still talking and fully awake but oda had to make her faint due to the bombs.

Those weren’t just bombs that fell with her. There was a nuke in there. Top right hand corner:

 

[Tai long]

she even said this is not enough to kill me before the bombs exploded

 

[Roo]

***** watched Bug Mom get folded and with a straight face say it didn’t happen

the paint chips have rotten their brains

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she even said this is not enough to kill me before the bombs exploded

so in order to beat a character you must kill them?

You'd think a Luffy stan would know better than to say something as stupid as this

 

[Tai long]

the paint chips have rotten their brains

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so in order to beat a character you must kill them?

You'd think a Luffy stan would know better than to say something as stupid as this

you should know that when she said kill she meant beat (ko) her

 

[Roo]

you should know that when she said kill she meant beat (ko) her

fanfic, all translations say kill yet i am supposed to believe otherwise because you said so?

all that rubber is poisoning your brain

 

[JoNdule]

One party thinks Kid and Law are trash coz Oda used island lebel bomb explosion to end BM
The other party trying doesn't wanna hear about bombs.

Puncture wille + Damned Punk + Bomb explosion = Monkey God Punch

Without the bomb explosion, BM would get back up.
Kid and Law can't KO BM, Oda made it clear
Even AdCoC G4 Luffy couldn't KO Kaido...so no shame there .

But nevertheless they're low top tiers who can push any top tier bar Rocks duo & Teach past to high diff 1v1

 

[Jinjoo]

Kid and law didn't get knocked out after finishing off big mom. They still had gas left in their tank. When kaido came downstairs, kid and law were ready to duke it out again. kid even said surrendering was not an option for him.

 

[Tai long]

One party thinks Kid and Law are trash coz Oda used island lebel bomb explosion to end BM
The other party trying doesn't wanna hear about bombs.

Puncture wille + Damned Punk + Bomb explosion = Monkey God Punch

Without the bomb explosion, BM would get back up.
Kid and Law can't KO BM, Oda made it clear
Even AdCoC G4 Luffy couldn't KO Kaido...so no shame there .

But nevertheless they're low top tiers who can push any top tier bar Rocks duo & Teach past to high diff 1v1

you know kaido attacked luffys attack but bigmom did not

 

[Fisher Tiger]

Crazy how people bring up the bombs but forget Law and Kid were fighting with nerfs the whole fight😂

 

[Chaves]

Obviously, there are only a selected few who'd require Kid to need distractions to land hits. So anyone who says he always needs a distraction would be wrong. However, Kid did not land any attacks on Big Mom in 1039 when she's focused on him and is in a position to fight back. As far as I can recall, he managed to assign a poll to her but failed to land the follow-up attack as Big Mom countered him by turning around and blocking Kid with the wall she's attached to.

Damned Punk was 1vs1 as well.
Assign + mechanical bull was also in 1vs1, Kid was able to maneuver her and she blocked due to the wall beam not being firm, it was completely situational. And she still complained of pain, even blocking it, which also shows how powerful the Kid's abilities are.

But in that chapter (1039) it became clear that if Kid and Big Mom faced each other again, she would have a very difficult fight against him. if Kid awakens flow CoC, then he beats her.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Damned Punk was 1vs1 as well.
Assign + mechanical bull was also in 1vs1, Kid was able to maneuver her and she blocked due to the wall beam not being firm, it was completely situational. And she still complained of pain, even blocking it, which also shows how powerful the Kid's abilities are.

But in that chapter (1039) it became clear that if Kid and Big Mom faced each other again, she would have a very difficult fight against him. if Kid awakens flow CoC, then he beats her.

She was on the floor for Damned Punk due to PW, so I wouldn't say it counts as a normal clash. And I agree the second Punk Corna Dio was situational but he got countered in the chapter, which means he didn't land any hits by himself in the chapter, which, in turn, is what I was saying. Not to say he's completely incapable of landing hits on Big Mom, but as far as awakening goes, he almost always needed a distraction to work in his favor. The same applies to Law as well.

 

[sanjikun]

The bombs that Yamato froze and took out of commission are what knocked BM out

The funny shit is all that smoke and white hole was confirmed to be lava. Same crap as Luffy. Nothing to do with bombs.