Kinda agree with you. The fight is trash. I hate the shenanigans of Luffy gaining a power up then getting stomped a few minutes later. Even right now with gear 5th it feels like Kaido could actually win. And even if Luffy pulls the win it wil feel like an ass pull to be honest. He already actually even defeated Gear5th Luffy last chapter when you think about it.
General & Others Luffy vs Kaido is the worst fight in One Piece
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It amazes people read One Piece for years and still cant wrap their head around the fact Oda will never make Luffy lose
He had a chance to do it with Katakuri and it coiuld have been a fantastic defeat but nope
Marry Sue that shit
At this idc if ZKK happens because it would be equally trash like the rest, just quicker so we can move the fuck on and finish the story
He had a chance to do it with Katakuri and it coiuld have been a fantastic defeat but nope
Marry Sue that shit
At this idc if ZKK happens because it would be equally trash like the rest, just quicker so we can move the fuck on and finish the story
Once Kaido awakens this will be even more clear 
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Luffy has lost plenty times before lol and he beat katakiti fare and square even though the was poisend and hungry what's ur excuse
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this is the only thing I partly agree with that oda making really shouldn't have made Luffy lose all those times but there is no way he loses in gear 5 at that point it would be seriously bad writing imo
NOOOO BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE STORY
LUFFY WAS ALWAYS GOOFY LMAOOO YOU'RE A FAKE ONE PIECE FAAAAN BOOOO
Cringe and gay for shitting on Bleach
LUFFY WAS ALWAYS GOOFY LMAOOO YOU'RE A FAKE ONE PIECE FAAAAN BOOOO
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Maybe my first serious post, don't judge me.
I like Luffy vs Kaido because it brings the Manga to its roots, when One Piece didn't take itself too seriously. I always disliked Dressrosa because of Doflamingo.
This type of panel did nothing for me. I remember back in the day everybody was wetting their panties in forums about how badass and dark Doflamingo is but to me it was just edgy and cringe.
What made me fall in love with Luffy's character were arcs like Arabasta, Skypiea and Arlong Park, where Oda cleverly built up the villains through the eyes of their victims, so they always seemed terrifying to us, but then radically changed the tone when Luffy met them face to face.
Take Arlong, he comes from the superior race originating from the Grand Line. At first, the Mugiwaras are dicking around in Kokoyashi without a worry. Oda hypes up Arlong up in our imaginations by showing his underlings sinking Marine ships effortlessly, by showing Arlong terrorizing Usopp and lifting houses (it's more terrifying if it's Usopp), we hear about how Fishmen are 10 times stronger than humans, Arlong's shark teeth etc.
Then as the arc developped it starts becoming personal. Arlong's invincibility aura grows more in Nami's flashback, but so does his ruthlessness as he murders Bellemere and enslaves the entire village.
Through this build-up we take this villain super seriously, we fear for Luffy. And this is why I think One Piece managed to conquer the hearts of children, teenagers and adults all over the world; After so many chapters of people jobbing to Arlong, being terrified of Arlong, etc., Luffy finally meets Arlong face to face and he doesn't care.
He isn't scared, he doesn't respect him, he goofs around and mocks him. Arlong is just some dude to him. Oda builds all this illusion of the invincible foe through the perspective of powerless people, but when Luffy gets there, this illusion is shattered.
Luffy's character was too fucking cool. No matter how serious the situation was, he would make us laugh and never changed his relaxed/carefree attitude. Enel, the omnipotent God who was one-shotting everybody in Skypiea, looked silly trying to stab Luffy's Gomu Gomu no Baka.
tl;dr: One Piece is different from edgelord shit like Bleach (if you are a Bleach fan put your money where your mouth is and drink Bleach please) because it doesn't take itself too seriously. Oda manipulates the readers into hyping up the antagonist in their imaginations, only to have Luffy reminds us that they're just human.
I like Luffy vs Kaido because it brings the Manga to its roots, when One Piece didn't take itself too seriously. I always disliked Dressrosa because of Doflamingo.
This type of panel did nothing for me. I remember back in the day everybody was wetting their panties in forums about how badass and dark Doflamingo is but to me it was just edgy and cringe.
What made me fall in love with Luffy's character were arcs like Arabasta, Skypiea and Arlong Park, where Oda cleverly built up the villains through the eyes of their victims, so they always seemed terrifying to us, but then radically changed the tone when Luffy met them face to face.
Take Arlong, he comes from the superior race originating from the Grand Line. At first, the Mugiwaras are dicking around in Kokoyashi without a worry. Oda hypes up Arlong up in our imaginations by showing his underlings sinking Marine ships effortlessly, by showing Arlong terrorizing Usopp and lifting houses (it's more terrifying if it's Usopp), we hear about how Fishmen are 10 times stronger than humans, Arlong's shark teeth etc.
Then as the arc developped it starts becoming personal. Arlong's invincibility aura grows more in Nami's flashback, but so does his ruthlessness as he murders Bellemere and enslaves the entire village.
Through this build-up we take this villain super seriously, we fear for Luffy. And this is why I think One Piece managed to conquer the hearts of children, teenagers and adults all over the world; After so many chapters of people jobbing to Arlong, being terrified of Arlong, etc., Luffy finally meets Arlong face to face and he doesn't care.
He isn't scared, he doesn't respect him, he goofs around and mocks him. Arlong is just some dude to him. Oda builds all this illusion of the invincible foe through the perspective of powerless people, but when Luffy gets there, this illusion is shattered.
Luffy's character was too fucking cool. No matter how serious the situation was, he would make us laugh and never changed his relaxed/carefree attitude. Enel, the omnipotent God who was one-shotting everybody in Skypiea, looked silly trying to stab Luffy's Gomu Gomu no Baka.
tl;dr: One Piece is different from edgelord shit like Bleach (if you are a Bleach fan put your money where your mouth is and drink Bleach please) because it doesn't take itself too seriously. Oda manipulates the readers into hyping up the antagonist in their imaginations, only to have Luffy reminds us that they're just human.
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peak fight in Onigashima was chapter 1010
I dont care about whatever excuse the Odasucker bring, but the rooftop fight but especially chapter 1010 had all the charateristic of a good shonen fight manga.
After that Oda qualities to bring a good fight were dissapointing
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Yeah Zoro vs King was good (not amazing but definitly the best confrontation in Onigashima)
I like Law power against Mom but the fight was trash and kid is just mid
And Luffy vs Kaido started great in chapter 1010 and went straight to be dogshit.
Like how can someone regress so badly from panel like this:
to this:
Well sure weirdo people gona love that shit but the classic shonen guy like me (which follow multiple manga) are just indifferent to this shit (I was pissed few weeks ago) but I cant care less about OP. I am waiting for ZKK and then for ZorovsMihawk
I dont care about whatever excuse the Odasucker bring, but the rooftop fight but especially chapter 1010 had all the charateristic of a good shonen fight manga.
After that Oda qualities to bring a good fight were dissapointing
.Yeah Zoro vs King was good (not amazing but definitly the best confrontation in Onigashima)
I like Law power against Mom but the fight was trash and kid is just mid
And Luffy vs Kaido started great in chapter 1010 and went straight to be dogshit.
Like how can someone regress so badly from panel like this:
to this:
Well sure weirdo people gona love that shit but the classic shonen guy like me (which follow multiple manga) are just indifferent to this shit (I was pissed few weeks ago) but I cant care less about OP. I am waiting for ZKK and then for ZorovsMihawk
What if Morpheus told you that it will?
How about Kaido targetting Luffy with Borobreath and Zoro takes over and handles it from there?
Is that not stepping on the captain's toes or what would you call it?
How about Kaido targetting Luffy with Borobreath and Zoro takes over and handles it from there?
Is that not stepping on the captain's toes or what would you call it?
