Speculations Luffy vs. Kizaru - outcome?

[Mackiss]

This is already longer than a transition arc. 33 chapters long.

Still way below than what Oda usually drags us to do something meaningful

 

[Aknolagon]

@Adamxero @YonkoGodLuffy come here and vote.

 

[Dragon777]

Kizarus not a main villain tho, he’s a subordinate of one.

Kizaru is the main villain of this arc as Lucci was the main villain of W7. But if you want a less strong example, Kizaru is the villain as Katakuri was the villain of WC.

At this point, it should be quite safe to say.

 

[Mackiss]

Kizaru is just warm up for Sakazuki. A measuring stick to see where Luffy measured up to the admiral class.

I'm telling you, there will be no all out fights in this arc, Oda is very predictable in that regard.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kizaru is the main villain of this arc as Lucci was the main villain of W7. But if you want a less strong example, Kizaru is the villain as Katakuri was the villain of WC.

At this point, it should be quite safe to say.

I’m referring to Sakazuki not Saturn. Kizaru doesn’t need an excessive amount of build up cause like Mr. 3 and Kata, they’re just appetizers.

 

[Aknolagon]

This is already longer than a transition arc. 33 chapters long.

Focused on Egghead alone it's less than 20 chapters.

 

[Dragon777]

Kizaru is just warm up for Sakazuki. A measuring stick to see where Luffy measured up to the admiral class.

That's like saying Kaido was a measuring stick for BB.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's like saying Kaido was a measuring stick for BB.

You can’t compare Kizaru and Sakazuki to Kaido and Blackbeard?

 

[Dragon777]

You can’t compare Kizaru and Sakazuki to Kaido and Blackbeard?

In some way, yes, sure. However, both Kaido and Kizaru were or will be big enemies.
Even though BB will be the final pirate enemy, and so Kaido will be sidelined, and Akainu will be the final Marine enemy.

 

[gz89]

Kizaru is clearly one of Oda's favorite characters which he has been hyping long ago.

He literally isnt.

This joke about "X character is one of Oda's favorites" has to stop.

He cares only about Luffy & Shanks.

 

[Mackiss]

He literally isnt.

This joke about "X character is one of Oda's favorites" has to stop.

He cares only about Luffy & Shanks.

You know what i mean, cut it

 

[Philosoraptor]

fight will be interrupted as Teach will abduct the gorosei on the ship, Kizaru will have no choice but to retreat
following day news:
1: BBP Abducted Saturn
2: StrawHats Abducted Vegapunk
3: BBP Defeated Garp
4: Strawhats Defeated CP0 and fought off an Admiral

Possibly.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

In some way, yes, sure. However, both Kaido and Kizaru were or will be big enemies.
Even though BB will be the final pirate enemy, and so Kaido will be sidelined, and Akainu will be the final Marine enemy.

Kizaru isn’t a big enemy. He’s not built up, he has no strong subordinates to build up a crew battle, he’s just a fight for Luffy to assess his strength with the next league he’s fighting in. The big enemy is sakazuki.

 

[Malio]

Let's see

• The concludes with a Luffy W
• It gets stopped due to outside factors
• Saturn being the main factor
• The fight doesn't have a conclusion as the Strawhats escape (Saboady Rayleigh 2.0)

Zoro v Kizaru for sure though

 

[Dragon777]

Kizaru isn’t a big enemy. He’s not built up, he has no strong subordinates to build up a crew battle, he’s just a fight for Luffy to assess his strength with the next league he’s fighting in. The big enemy is sakazuki.

Kizaru was responsible for the worst defeat in the history of the mugi, and Oda showed us that they remember very well what happened.
Kizaru was present back in MF, had a connection with Vegapunk and was even part of the FT/Otohime FB.
Now he has returned and is the big villain of this important Arc.

Kizaru is a big enemy under any definition, just like and even more so than Katakuri, Doflamingo or Kaido.

He is not a final villain like Akainu, BB or Imu, but no one said that.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

I'm just not a clown to think Oda will make one of the main villains be defeated in a transition arc without 100+ chapters of bullshit buildup

Side villain maybe? Main, lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kizaru was responsible for the worst defeat in the history of the mugi, and Oda showed us that they remember very well what happened.
Kizaru was present back in MF, had a connection with Vegapunk and was even part of the FT/Otohime FB.
Now he has returned and is the big villain of this important Arc.

Kizaru is a big enemy under any definition, just like and even more so than Katakuri, Doflamingo or Kaido.

He is not a final villain like Akainu, BB or Imu, but no one said that.

And during that saga Sakazuki completely overshadows kizarus impact on Luffy by killing Ace.

Kizaru doesnt need build up, he’s not some big saga ending villain like Kaido or Crocodile Was. He’s a mid saga villain like Doffy Mr. 3 and Kata. this is the perfect place for him to fall

 

[Zaretball]

To be honest Kizaru looks more and more like a side villain that will be used as a hypertool than big villain like Kata or Kaido. I think Luffy's fight will have little difficulty or the fight will be interrupted.

 

[Mackiss]

Side villain maybe? Main, lol

He's as much main villain as crocodile, doflamingo, big mom, kaido etc

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Have a high diff fight here against Kizaru setting up perfectly for needing a power up extreme diff fight against Sakazuki in Elbaf

Elbaf seems like a lore arc, among other things, I doubt they'd really fight anyone there.
If anything Luffy's just gonna meet his papa Dragon and reunite with Shanks in Elbaf.
The arc after that is probably the one where he fights the Marines and WG.