Speculations Luffy will end up fighting both Kizaru and Saturn at the same time
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@EmperorKinyagi why self ban, get here and take the L.
Bro always dips away when he sees an L coming his way
Bro always dips away when he sees an L coming his way
Remember when Sanji fought King and Queen?
Guess who came and took over one of them?
We will be there with @mly90
Guess who came and took over one of them?
We will be there with @mly90
Short theory, but all of this conflict in the fanbase over Kizaru's status and Saturn's arc antagonism just has me going, very simply, why not:
Now here's the thing, if you can believe the following, its very easy to agree with this mindset imo:
- Kizaru will in fact get up. He is seen moving this very chapter. This is not a troll statement, it is objectively true and people saying otherwise need some self reflection.
- Zoro is still fighting Lucci, which also objectively true. It is unknown of Oda will have him actually win soon.
- Kizaru will not betray Saturn (yet). This has to do with giving Kizaru a bit more internal conflict as an Admiral first before we potentially end the arc with him helping the crew
- Saturn is the arc antagonist and can lose. This is obvious and its even something I am conceding on with regards to the losing aspect. @Garp the Fist made a great point in another thread that even if Saturn loses this arc, you have 4 more Gorosei of a similar caliber and Imu who presides above them. Then you also have God Knights. On top of this, it doesnt suggest that defeating the Gorosei makes the presence of Akainu, Shanks and Blackbeard any less than they have. My main issue with Saturn losing had to do with endgame presence, but when he's one of 6 and there are 9 or so God Knights under them, it frankly doesnt matter.
- The Ancient Robot exists to assist in battle this arc and is powerful enough to withstand Admiral and Gorosei attacks.
The last one is key, I dont think Luffy will fight Kizaru and Saturn in a 1v2, but rather a 2v2 where the Ancient Robot comes to his aid.
How I can see the chain of events going:
- Kuma attempts to attack Saturn, eventually he fails
- Luffy, as Nika, saves both Kuma and Bonney.
- Kizaru, either via attacking Luffy or continuing his mission, will force the idea (to the reader) that Luffy is spread too thin.
- Cue the Ancient Robot, which allows Luffy to be at two places at once to stop the Admiral and Gorosei.
When you consider the Robot in any other fashion, it seems like overkill if its meant to help Luffy as Nika while he fights Kizaru or Saturn alone.
Anyway, could be a moot point in the end, but I think this is the likely route when it comes to dealing with all present threats.
And yes, before anyone complains of it being the "Luffy show", ask yourself if that actually matters to Oda after WCI and Wano lol
Now here's the thing, if you can believe the following, its very easy to agree with this mindset imo:
- Kizaru will in fact get up. He is seen moving this very chapter. This is not a troll statement, it is objectively true and people saying otherwise need some self reflection.
- Zoro is still fighting Lucci, which also objectively true. It is unknown of Oda will have him actually win soon.
- Kizaru will not betray Saturn (yet). This has to do with giving Kizaru a bit more internal conflict as an Admiral first before we potentially end the arc with him helping the crew
- Saturn is the arc antagonist and can lose. This is obvious and its even something I am conceding on with regards to the losing aspect. @Garp the Fist made a great point in another thread that even if Saturn loses this arc, you have 4 more Gorosei of a similar caliber and Imu who presides above them. Then you also have God Knights. On top of this, it doesnt suggest that defeating the Gorosei makes the presence of Akainu, Shanks and Blackbeard any less than they have. My main issue with Saturn losing had to do with endgame presence, but when he's one of 6 and there are 9 or so God Knights under them, it frankly doesnt matter.
- The Ancient Robot exists to assist in battle this arc and is powerful enough to withstand Admiral and Gorosei attacks.
The last one is key, I dont think Luffy will fight Kizaru and Saturn in a 1v2, but rather a 2v2 where the Ancient Robot comes to his aid.
How I can see the chain of events going:
- Kuma attempts to attack Saturn, eventually he fails
- Luffy, as Nika, saves both Kuma and Bonney.
- Kizaru, either via attacking Luffy or continuing his mission, will force the idea (to the reader) that Luffy is spread too thin.
- Cue the Ancient Robot, which allows Luffy to be at two places at once to stop the Admiral and Gorosei.
When you consider the Robot in any other fashion, it seems like overkill if its meant to help Luffy as Nika while he fights Kizaru or Saturn alone.
Anyway, could be a moot point in the end, but I think this is the likely route when it comes to dealing with all present threats.
And yes, before anyone complains of it being the "Luffy show", ask yourself if that actually matters to Oda after WCI and Wano lol
Question is how long will he stall ?? Who will aid luffy later it’s clear Saturn is too powerful and Kizaru barely used awakening .
what happens next @tissuechampion23
